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mircea_popescu: museum nodes can be created as a derivative work at any time, they'll be as funky as pornography is. not real sex.
mircea_popescu: nodes are internet machines, they stay on the internet and are expected to work safely and securely online. end of story.
mircea_popescu: well i am unaware of this "cd based security paradigm" as anything other than a chewing-gum and ductape concoction of no practical consequence.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in fairness : we had a little bit of excited & explosive growth here past coupla months, will take a little to digest it into proper form.
mircea_popescu: yeah. and, of course, the code is the standard, so just read the script as a guide :D
mircea_popescu: mod6 well on the theory he didn't want to run the script.
mircea_popescu: and this is generally the way it goes. anyone wants to "take wget out" - fine. the path to this is you write your own wget, sign it and use that.
mircea_popescu: then i can exclude his key and pretend he never lived.
mircea_popescu: ideally, you go read the whole fucking thing, rebase and sign as your own.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway, i gotta go to town. we can continue this when i'm back, but less symbolistic fetishism, more alphabetic monotheism plox.
mircea_popescu: it's more or less a 1966 argument that "it is not possible to alter a vinyl disc once printed because hurr durr the plastic will melt"
mircea_popescu: the cd remains a sort of vinyl disc, for a, b and c above.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can we agree at least on the concept that the notation you'll use consists of making different sized holes for 0s and 1s ?
mircea_popescu: you wanna press a vinyl copy of it... whatevs floats your boat but dun go all fetish-hypster on me
mircea_popescu: so to summarize : a) they're less resilient than you imagine them to be ; b) they're more rewritable than you imagine them to be ; c) keepi9ng them around requires keeping a whole pile of kludge that never worked right (cd drivers etc).
mircea_popescu: they are rewritable to some degree whether you wantthem to be or not.
mircea_popescu: and also it's trivial to rewrite a cd. most of them are rewritable realy.
mircea_popescu: so paper is in this sense the same as --clearsign. a cd is not that, not even remotely.
mircea_popescu: according to proponents. it's similar to the value of vinyl, in reality.
mircea_popescu: i don't even see the value of maintaining the cd as a thing in the world. it can go the way of the celuloid film afaic.
mircea_popescu: i much prefer building on the dest box whenever feasible.
mircea_popescu: so then you internet a signed binary over rather than a v tree. meh.
mircea_popescu: understand that introducing the ability to read cds is an unneeded kludge.
mircea_popescu: but don't expect me to go to paris every time i'm about to fit tits for corsets.
mircea_popescu: now, mind, i don't think it's wrong to have a cast cd of the thing, just like i don't think it's wrong to have an iridium idol of the "meter" somewhere in france
mircea_popescu: all convenience is sinful by this measure. there's nothing wrong with a little sin.
mircea_popescu: which is how i discovered yest that for instance we have an undocumented "bc" dependency in the build tree
mircea_popescu: but the convenience here is exactly that i just compile on the run boxes.
mircea_popescu: if the machine will connect ot the internet anyway, what the fuck do you imagine "airgapping" it does ?
mircea_popescu: if the machine is never going to connect to the internet, building on it airgapped is sane.
mircea_popescu: looky : your design whereby a better water piping system consists of introducing a one foot gap somewhere so people can be employed to run the water across in buckets isn't as brilliant as it seems.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i think they're going to try the sit around and talk about it while it goes away or whatever trick
mircea_popescu: if what you mean is that large buyers get volume discounts, well doh ?
mircea_popescu: your cut should be more or less the coupla mil, minus cab fare.
mircea_popescu: at any rate, the plan's very simple, go to large nat'l retailer, load half a dozen disks, when the cashier refuses to sell them sucker punch him, get the police report to say he wouldn't sell you the drives, pay the whatever it is to have punched a dude and settle for whatever coupla mil they're willing to pay to avoid discovery.
mircea_popescu: i don't live there nor have i yet run into the problem.
mircea_popescu: "your honor, i tried to buy a hdd and they refused to sell me. vendor told me they have an illegal arrangement to promote the business interests of Amazon cloud services. I want 100 dollars in liquidated damages and 10bn in punitive damages kthx."
mircea_popescu would have never bought. "sell me the half dozen or go to hell."
mircea_popescu: because that's how bureaucracy goes in and then never leaves.
mircea_popescu: and even the current state of the art spindle drives... they won't last for ever. that'll be an interesting bitcoin-fs application
mircea_popescu: now i can't even buy SSDs - admitting i somehow wanted to - because lol what, sub tb space ?!
mircea_popescu recalls the times when provisioning a bitcoin node came with "just set quota 100 gb or something, it'll never get there".
mircea_popescu: this inept jockeying and pointless us-style politics bs...
mircea_popescu: but THAT was not only an economic activity - it was the only economic activity in bitcoin at the time.
mircea_popescu: i had to publicly bitchslap them and privately threaten burning and pillage to get them to shut the fuck up already.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually the whole power ranger array threw a hissy fit, started bitching about censoring txn and whatnot,
mircea_popescu: and this is no fancy sort of setup with raids and backups and whatnot. just man and his single cpu single hdd playstation.
mircea_popescu: so basically, if 10k people store the blockchain, it takes just as much in hard drive costs to store the damned txn as the miners get for including them.
mircea_popescu: it's fucking ridiculous. the current cost of 14.7kb is something like
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and they are getting included, and basically EVERYONE is stuck storing 14.7kb in exchange for a one time payment of nothing at all in btc or about 5 cents to a third party
mircea_popescu: this faux "use" of bitcoin capacity has been ongoing for close to a year now.
mircea_popescu: in other news, oldest txn in mempool ? first seen jan the 25th, usual 14.7kb crud with 0.00015 fees.
mircea_popescu: whole fucking thing's driven by china and they don't even have to do anything.
mircea_popescu: notice incidentally how isis isn't making a single move in THAT direction.