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mircea_popescu: mopre like a training exercise for younguns looking to get shellshocked by "free software"
asciilifeform: but if we say 'use a tool' then 'pgpdump'.
asciilifeform: it'll be a backbreaker on account of rolling in rfc2440
mircea_popescu: actually, a fully-explicit "how to extract your rsa moduli as numbers, and how to test things" write-up may be a good use of someone's time.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> most she-haters i know are womenz. << girl last night pointed out that all of her worst clients (she's a physical therapist, deals with highly athletic folks coming to terms with their now-reduced performance envelopes) are women
trinque: yeah I'll make a patch
asciilifeform: perhaps it needs a 'cum se suge luger' article
trinque: gotta already want to eat a luger when you find trilema :p
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they won't read it because it makes them want to eat a luger
davout: asciilifeform: just because something is easy for a guy with 200 IQ doesn't mean it's as easy for two dudes with 100 IQ
trinque: yeah I'm figuring out a patch
trinque: lol dieharder has been rotting for a year on both redhat descendants and gentoo
asciilifeform: yesterday - if they were baked a month ago
mircea_popescu: so in also newsworthy : between yesterday and today there has been a shitton of hashpower added
JPT: I decided to read along a little since it got to me that some rsa keys were broken ;)
asciilifeform: iirc there's a full copy of it on mircea_popescu's www
davout: none, just a random observation :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the man has a good point.
decimation: indeed. I'm off on a home improvement project, good luck with the ramblig mob that's gonna come by
mircea_popescu: and we'll have a pretty decent picture once phuctor's done walking the set, which looks like a coupla months
decimation: well, I guess if you want your 'roster of people' to be a combination of legal record and bathroom graffiti, they got you covered
trinque: ben_vulpes: you can always build a specific version provided the ebuild is still available in portage by emerge =category-name/thing-0.1.2
decimation: 'oh I got a bad key'
mircea_popescu: it seems tempting, tho there are sticking points. but in any case, as phuctor progresses we'll get a better idea.
decimation: cause I thought there was a checksum
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: got a link to your article quoting that day's convo ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ben_vulpes a fine example of the perils of "whitening".
asciilifeform: it'll be a pattern.
mats: asciilifeform: it hurts ma ego everytiem i get a 'old fucking news'
davout: mircea_popescu: it'd be really interesting to know, it's a gpg --recv-keys | grep skipped away
ben_vulpes: mats: as a new dog i must piss on each and every electric fence
mats: asciilifeform: as a new dog i must learn old tricks
mircea_popescu: davout tis on the list of things to do, but it is a long list
ben_vulpes: so if the device randomly cooks up a control sequence that will get ripped out?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i specifically warned you not to use an rs232 dongle. don't be surprised when output fails a number of tests.
ben_vulpes: * BingoBoingo though doing an honest assessment finds a person who can reasonably keep up in a lot of #b-a convos but who can't program for shit. And honestly... training to trade punches seems much easier than learning to program on any level approaching asciilifeform, ben_vulpes, and mod6. << you could catch up to me in rather short order
mircea_popescu: strange, our fortress has a moat, provided free of charge by "the enemy"
asciilifeform: '04-06-2014 00:08:26 <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.'
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
asciilifeform: https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/262 <<< aaad we got a plagiarist
asciilifeform: 'Here's what's going on: There are a number of keys on the keyservers that are faulty copies of real keys - they share most of the values, but have some errors. I don't exactly know why that is happening, but I assume it's because of network transmission errors or server crashes during transmissions. These keys don't really do any harm. ...'
mircea_popescu: even from a purely operational standpoint - it'd seem sks servers have all the interest in the world to reject such broken keys rather than publish them, carry them in db etc
asciilifeform: this 'uncle' is 'too rich' to die a natural death
asciilifeform: seems like a bit of a tall order to believe that anvin was struck by a lucky cosmic ray
mircea_popescu: because we have a year-old snapshot and it doesn't look different.
mircea_popescu: so this is a manufactured subkey that was somehow uploaded to sks and merged into the guy's key but not necessarily used or even issued by him ?
asciilifeform: me thinks we may have found a mouse hill.
mircea_popescu: anyone feel like running a -v -v over the thing ?
asciilifeform: jurov: i was suspecting a spurious key
mircea_popescu: nothing is a prime anymore ;/
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, it so happens that $shmuck-Q is actually not a prime as well
mike_c: mircea_popescu: ok, i can make something like that. headed to a bbq right now, I'll get it going tonight.
mircea_popescu: i pass a base64 img wrapped in a tags. could you maybe make it be the same and i just forward it ? dunno.
asciilifeform: 'we broke a 4096 key, read how'
asciilifeform: does one of you ad folks wanna make a commemorative banner for this occasion ?
mike_c: I have a script that will do it, not sure if you can use that for your ads? If not, we could either pick a specific bet to promote and link it to that, or link to homepage.
asciilifeform: -possibly- if folks ask nicely i will add a 'throw modulus raw' thing
mircea_popescu: in other news, how does a server look while trending on everything ? like so :
asciilifeform: this is a point, if you convert your ssl or whatever rsa key to pgp format,
davout: or i guess yes, GCD the running product once in a while
asciilifeform: (it was, purportedly, done, by a bunch of academitards who refuse to publish any results)
d34th: i have a few cores i could donate
trinque: not since cloaked and getting a new IP from the ISP
d34th: its a dark and dangerous place
d34th: thanks, its been a while since i've been in here
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-05-2015#1134868 <<< did that for a deed, got trinque all worked up, 'whoa, you really do GPG on an atari box??' ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'm a little surprised that trilema wasn't
mircea_popescu: you were banned on wikipedia, for being a spammer, i recall now.
asciilifeform: did we just nuke a known fella
mircea_popescu: this, tbh, is a good move, because : someone came up with the fucktarded idea of adding "visual" identity to keys. as if i can tell one whore from another on the basis of a 5kb icon.
asciilifeform: gonna guess it's a creative bug where pollard-rho -must- fail to pass
mircea_popescu: davout hit a reload, went from 2 points by davout 8 minutes ago to 49 points by davout 35 minutes ago | 11 comments
asciilifeform: take a minute to think
mxtm: is that supposed to be a hint at the number
mircea_popescu: the supreme irony of which being, that you have to be a fairly frequent reader to hit the paywall.
mircea_popescu: you know, just a line down from where i say "i have my doubts 4096 keys will EVER be factored."
jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/36a3mu/today_a_4096_bit_rsa_key_was_factored_more_coming/
mircea_popescu: everybody could have tyold you gcd'ing is a waste of time and cycles.
assbot: You rated user bad_duck on 25-Mar-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: encore une victoire pour canard.
mircea_popescu: he has a sense of humour like that.
mircea_popescu: (generally - since the gcd finally contains 3, it will be a massacre now for all the shitty keys)
mircea_popescu: nope. 21 this time. why bother with a full length 77 when one could just use 7.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sure, lemme cook up a ps0t
asciilifeform: i posted werker in #b-a a few days after phuctor went public
Apocalyptic: wait, the worker is a python script ?
mircea_popescu: see, it needed a well loaded up P
mats: if that makes it to front page, prepare for an onslaught of 'mp is a pornographer and slaver'
asciilifeform: (which is why the thing takes an ungodly time to revv back up after a cold boot)
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: so you'll be waiting a few days
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: it gets updated when a batch is done
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, also I noticed that "Moduli waiting to test" number is updated quite regularly, why the running product displays the same number of digits for a while now, I guess it doesn't update as often ?
asciilifeform: the paper is worth reading, it contains a bit of exposition on -how- a schmuck might end up with dupped privates
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: you are correct, the formula is missing a step. but i will leave it as exercise.
mircea_popescu: oh also - if anyone has a hacker news account or w/e - put it in.
asciilifeform: no this is a good find, i will add it to the queue of three or four other mysterymeats
asciilifeform: jurov: most peculiar. it is a valid rsa key.
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