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mircea_popescu: well so then. i don't want 10x as many people that can jump 1m. i want people who can jump 10m now.
mircea_popescu: as the linecount you're digesting increases you don't need more people. you need smarter ones. it's not like if you need one brick carried you hire one lout and ifg you need 10000 you hire 10000. it's like if you want 1kg carried you can use a dog, and if you need 10 tons you gotta learn to speak whale now.
mircea_popescu: physics is a well known whore. behaves the exact same way.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you know what "not making the cut" is wqith a woman ? even if you're a saudi prince and your daddy buys her for you ; even if you're an afghan monkey and she deeply believes she has to. there's a point where you make the cut or don't, and that's what it is.
mircea_popescu: <adlai> if "standards" is plural, it's already noncompliant <<< for the record, the reason the enemy uses the plural there isn't that the enemy is this stupid, but that it believes in patchwork. ie, standards : one for this, one for that, together they make up a complete thing.
mircea_popescu: it's this sort of "doesn't repeat but rhymes" beauty that makes me thing we're really singing spheres music here.
mircea_popescu: anyway, notice the fractal beauty of the world : list 1 is really "the wot" ; list 2 is necessarily the lordship list. and by its very nature ... you can or can not chose various different lordships depending on what it is you're trying to do.
mircea_popescu: and even without the economic consideration, from a purely intellectual perspective. what is this inhuman, anti-intellectual "the bitcoin developers" bs ? we're not living in the village of pythagora over here, and we don't expect "anonymity" to stand in for sovereignity like five years old. gimme the motherfucking list.
mircea_popescu: and if we fix the other end, we actually fix this problem.
mircea_popescu: but the problem per se wasn't the end he approached, but the other end.
mircea_popescu: must know who to thank and who to hunt down. that's what management is.
mircea_popescu: (this approach probably makes the ancient "group is the enemy of intelligent life" / "only threat to wot model is agreement" etc painfully obvious - if a, c and d are a compact i'll just note them epsilon and pretend it's one thing)
mircea_popescu: whereas by building D i am in the situation where i know it's enough for d to lie.
mircea_popescu: so by building B in the example i am in the situation where i know a and c and d must ALL lie.
mircea_popescu: question 2 is : who are all the people on whose word i am implicitly depending by building this ?
mircea_popescu: question 1 is : who are all the people who contributed to this ?
mircea_popescu: basically i seek to answer two questions, from a management point of view.
mircea_popescu: sure, people may maintain sparkly-clean trees for whatever reason anyway. but in general as to the "main" tree, best avoid both horns of the dilemma and tryt and sit in the middle.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'd say it's a degree question. if a hole found close to the surface, supuration is advised. if not, let blood carry the germs out. just like the body treats infection.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the first list for B is a b c d whereas the 2nd list for B is (a) ; (c) ; (d) ie 3 lists.
mircea_popescu: the first list for C is a b c d whereas the 2nd list for C is D.
mircea_popescu: A signed by a b c d ; B off A, signed by a, c, d. D off A, signed by a, d. C off D signed by d.
mircea_popescu: phf actually asciilifeform has a point : two signature lists are needed. complete and dependent. C = all signatures seen on any of the packages pressed ; D = the set of all signatures on which the current press depends - ie, without them you can't reach that leaf.
mircea_popescu: phf yes, the list of all signatures seen to reach that leaf.
mircea_popescu: every time it runs into something it doesn't know what to say about
mircea_popescu: trinque and ftr that error message should be "fuck you alf" by default.
mircea_popescu: anyway, irc bot based submission is much better because bot can provide error response
mircea_popescu: well as the great robbie williams one said, "at least now we know"
mircea_popescu: phf can you also add the text on a futher link ? [code] ?
mircea_popescu: wouldn't it be best to test before documenting a feature ? :D
mircea_popescu: truth is defended in this order by a) structure and b) text&context.
mircea_popescu: i had the silent intuition that there'd be a second gate in between the code and the "war of comments" outer gate discussed in thr logs last week. there is! this!
mircea_popescu: excepot from a braindamaged locus of "who could need more than one node level"
mircea_popescu: which is what "functions" as originally hacked into fortran/basic were supposed to do
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking program is supposed to be written as a tree not as a fucking scroll
mircea_popescu: which leads me to the following : it's not JUST patches that should be "thematically grouped".
mircea_popescu: because what he really wanted was ths svg (not the PDF!!!) of a book
mircea_popescu: which is kinda why both nullities are so fascinated with theoretical socialism and why practical implementations of socialism amount to such resplendent nothing.
mircea_popescu: "oh but what of equality!" "the only thing equal to all its downstream is 0".
mircea_popescu: either she keeps going, in which case she's not in the harem yet, or else gives up, in which case there's the answer.
mircea_popescu: "what did i do to be in ?" "how did it fail ?" "how did i fix it ?" "how did it fail still ?" "how did i fix that ?"
mircea_popescu: well i said the not a. woman who wants to know why she isn't in any particular one ~need only ask herself~.
mircea_popescu: woman that wants to know why she's not in the harem needs only ask herself.
mircea_popescu: community doesn't mean "everyone". nor does it mean "people you'd expect". a guy's harem is not composed of all the women that exist, or all the women he ran into. nvertheless, it works just fine.
mircea_popescu: takes me straight to "The #bitcoin-assets aristocracy is not incompetent. Whether in anyone's estimation others not named are just as or even more competent is immaterial : arbitrariety is not the problem, incompetence is."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform original rock in construction is when you encounter stuff that's baseline and can't be dug into. in v-programming, when you've dug your way all the way to the genesis.
mircea_popescu: but the point does stand, that gold on mars is not gold but just a metal.
mircea_popescu: understand something re that principle of yours : money is fundamentally a community function.
mircea_popescu: anyway. this is a poorly understood point as of yet at all levels - the clergy and the populace.
mircea_popescu: research went into this in the deep, dank cellars of my dirigible. there's a lot of the original rock involved. it may even not be wrong design, horror of horrors.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform technically, you don't get to factor back-ups, because the chain itself is its best backup.
mircea_popescu: but this was also discussed variously and from multiple angles.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's miserable design while at it. seriously, X pays Y for his imposition upon Z ?