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mircea_popescu: and, in a fascinating turn of what sexism really is, remember that one time when ben_vulpes had a friend over, about the same age, about the same ideas and i bit his head off ?
williamdunne: “Just to be clear, I’m not a professional ‘politician’. I’m just a german teenager who greatly values her intelligence and political fact over any silly idea conjured up some years ago. This being said, I am open to any and all criticism.
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 09:27:49; mircea_popescu: clever chick with a head fulla stupid meets #b-a. anyone care to bet on the linecount total ?
davout: "DID YOU MEAN, 'A BED' ?"
davout: i was referring to "davout you got a bet ?"
mircea_popescu: tbh the best part was where she didn't wanna take a trip to the us because satan lives there.
mircea_popescu: davout you got a bet ?
mircea_popescu: the counterpart being that you can never impose a contract on anyone.
mircea_popescu: hey, lex pacta. you can make a contract say whatever you wish it to say
justJanne: We have a contract between two parties.
justJanne: Debt as a liability and debt as an asset have to be treated the same.
mircea_popescu: the fact that i convey a claim against you to him does not mean he inherited it from me.
mircea_popescu: and forevermore get a share of the company.
mircea_popescu: no. stocks are a contract saying that you PAID money,
justJanne: Most stocks are a contract saying that you pay money, in return get a part of the profits and the power over a company.
williamdunne: No one enforces inheritance, its not a contract
trinque: also a contract
mircea_popescu: and a contract can only be enforced by its parties.
mircea_popescu: because debt flows from a contrat.
justJanne: You said inheriting debts shouldn't be a thing.
chetty: <justJanne> When your parents are so piss poor you have to work as a child to not starve.// some might consider that an advantage
mircea_popescu: so a bottle and a penis are, for a flatworm, "the same"
justJanne: Debt is a responsibility of having to pay, yes.
williamdunne: Not a lack of a thing
williamdunne: Debt is a thing you have
williamdunne: Thats a lack of a think
justJanne: When your parents are so piss poor you have to work as a child to not starve.
mircea_popescu: the word has a specific meaning.
mircea_popescu: you don't get to call any negative number "a debt"
mircea_popescu: the debts of your parents is a novel development, wasn't discussed before.
williamdunne: Its a punishment
mircea_popescu: i don't live in a place owned by someone else.
justJanne: The situation that you live in a place with taxes is neither your punishment nor you'd responsibility.
mircea_popescu: moreover, the situation where you're poor because daddy was a drunk is neither your punishment nor your responsibility.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between punishment and responsibility.
mircea_popescu: justJanne the impression you get comes from you observing what's being said with too broad a brush.
mircea_popescu: we suck at being a cult.
williamdunne: Thats what happens when you talk to a group of people
mircea_popescu: anyway, nothing a summer's worth of lurk moar can't fix.
mircea_popescu: the problem isn't that we're going "off topic", as there isn't a topic. the problem is that you very badly suck at most verbal and cognitive tasks. but hopefully we've run the gamut by now.
mircea_popescu: speaking of the broke ass pki, http://blog.trendmicro.com/trendlabs-security-intelligence/a-look-at-the-gnutls-x-509-verification-code-flaw/
williamdunne: A university dedicate to not sharing information, not very socialist of them
justJanne: As access to the intranet is bound through X.509 to a user account
williamdunne: No a public one
williamdunne: setup a proxy to the intranet
justJanne: Uni Köln has a nice transcript.
justJanne: That's a master module.
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williamdunne: Sounds like a musician "Stoch"
mircea_popescu: this actually is a thing ?!
justJanne: williamdunne: please take stochastics 101 at a university,
mircea_popescu: she has a point. it does lower the average but increase the median
mircea_popescu: and because the government can alter the deal, here, it's a new law now.
williamdunne: Socialism to me does seem a lot like the "no kid left behind" school bullshit that appeals to the lowest common denominator and lowers the median
justJanne: So no, it's not a German issue. We still try to do our best to fix the mistakes someone else did.
mircea_popescu: chetty imagine, that's like a quarter ton of bits ?
williamdunne: Sorry Charles about hacking your head off, I'll stitch it back on in just a jiffy! Universal healthcare ftw
justJanne: That's no a problem.
mircea_popescu: http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/female-circumcision-now-a-growing-problem-in-germany/2013/02/06/
justJanne: You don't get it without a degree and a guarantee for a job, and the circumcised people rarely have the qualifications anyway
mircea_popescu: or to a point where the muslims can just come in and rape you stupid lot into shape.,
justJanne: Automatically shrinking the population to a point where it is sustainable.
justJanne: Germany has a child per family rate of 1.4
trinque: there should be a lot less citizens.
justJanne: Nah thanks, don't wanna go into a country where anyone can be declared terrorist and stripped of their rights
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes trinque hey lot, if i buy her plane tickets do you show her portland ? a week or so ? ☟︎
justJanne: The company is SciEngines GmbH (they have a Wikipedia article)
mircea_popescu: anyway, denmark is probably the best example of usistan. "The worlds largest public sector (30% of the entire workforce on a full-time basis) is financed by the world's highest taxes."
mircea_popescu: justJanne odds are you just had a superificial understanding of it.
justJanne: Or it was a different system.
punkman: " Funds cannot move freely within the system. They can move from a bank account (or cash) to a Geldkarte. From there, they can only be moved to a merchant's card and from the merchant's card, they can only go to the merchant's bank account."
mircea_popescu: it will never work. the only reason its not being raped wide open is because atm nobody gives a shit about swine country.
mircea_popescu: denmark has got a stupid, centralist bitcoin.
williamdunne: justJanne: Do you have a paper or something for this?
punkman: justJanne: I mean, a startup in my city sells FPGA clusters that can be used for that (or for crypto mining), and the NSA bought 256 clusters, each should be enough to break AES256 in 2 weeks. << lolwut
mircea_popescu: if i can send money to either a or b
justJanne: So, I send you money, by sending you a cryptographically signed info "I sent you n money"
justJanne: Your card stores a list of cryptographically signed money from the sender.
mircea_popescu: b has no money. a gives him 100 moneys. b sends 100 money to C and 100 money to D.
justJanne: A pays person B money.
justJanne: Person A can pay person B, person B can pay person C
justJanne: There is a difference between the printed money and and the way digital money works.
williamdunne: "anyone can just open a bank" < or rly?
justJanne: The banks aren't either fully centralized, nor fully decentralized. Anyone can just open a bank, the question is if other banks will accept money from your customers as payment, as they don't know if they can trust your cryptographic signature.
justJanne: A web of nodes is a graph, as a graph, per definition, is just a set of nodes, and a set of relations between nodes.
mircea_popescu: but in graph theory, decentralized is a term of art.
justJanne: Every web of nodes is just a graph.
justJanne: decentralized is a system where all nodes are equal.
trinque: we're not gonna get a definition of centralized/decentralized
justJanne: I mean, a startup in my city sells FPGA clusters that can be used for that (or for crypto mining), and the NSA bought 256 clusters, each should be enough to break AES256 in 2 weeks.
mircea_popescu: 545. nevertheless a record i think ?
mircea_popescu: clever chick with a head fulla stupid meets #b-a. anyone care to bet on the linecount total ? ☟︎☟︎
justJanne: Is because they store the money as a cryptographically signed transaction history on the card.
justJanne: Just because my money is only a cryptographic signature on my credit card.
justJanne: I can send money to another merchant without it ever touching a bank
justJanne: More like a web of hundreds of central points
mircea_popescu: the idea that i'd allow a third party to look into my accounts... what the fuck is this, the future ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo forcing a point.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Wondered, can you not get a lot more for your money if you pay with USD? Or would that get you shot?
mircea_popescu: funny to do here, too, a brick is worth like 800 bucks or so.