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mircea_popescu: anyway. enough of this wankery.
mircea_popescu: nd of analysis is the only acceptable methodology e.g. for cryptography, and that its results should be blindly adhered to as truth about the world especially when they contradict plain common sense, as K&M claim they do (not saying whether the latter is true or not, just that it doesn't address this)."
mircea_popescu: anyway, to not unwarrantedly attack a whole nominal group : there are sane people too. an example "Well, he also references Bacon's Novum Organum as justification for "rigorous analysis" in cryptography, by which he apparently means theorem/proof analysis. To my knowledge, that work essentially describes how to conduct empirical scientific experiments to gain knowledge, and does not support the claim that the former ki
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_butugychag
mircea_popescu: this is like throwing away the summaries in confusion and reading the original tardstalk text plain just to see. i have the exact same feeling - these people are uniquely stupid. what the fuck did teh education do for them again ?!
mircea_popescu: ancient history to it, too. "is this blessing good or not ?" "it's great. except if in the future things happen, in which case it WILL RETROACTIVELY HAVE NOT ACTUALLY BEEN A BLESSING!"
mircea_popescu: it's i suspect the principal pipe through which the sheep that aren't exactly stupid transfer material from future back into the past.
mircea_popescu: "he never had a chance". o yeah ? why not ?
mircea_popescu: and this analytical device works quite well. is trump an ACTUALLY incumbent ?
mircea_popescu: he can't be an "actually" thing because "actually" thing is given by participation in the official scheme to certify the reality of the delusions of the people that would want!
mircea_popescu: you are only a REAL soviet if you spend your time wit hthe pravda and at the parades/meetings etc.
mircea_popescu: admire the union mentality. "this woman is really hot, all the men want her" "yes but does she show up regularly at the female equality club ^H^H^H^H^H church ?"
mircea_popescu: Is Rudich actually an active researcher?"
mircea_popescu: "Well, Steven Rudich has fewer than 30 publications if you discount double-copies of conference/journal publications ("http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/indices/a-tree/r/Rudich:Steven.html"), but he just won this years Godel Prize, so I think that qualifies him as a "top researcher".
mircea_popescu: they're a special breed.
mircea_popescu: there is little better to do with one's time than mockfully torture The People Who Would Want.
mircea_popescu: would be epic.
mircea_popescu: dude, the redditards should make a bitcoin academia. with stolfi, katz and bogawan what's his face.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag luca trevisan, crypto guy
mircea_popescu: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gasarch/BLOGPAPERS/koblitz.pdf <<< ahaha is this our friend the drastically inept if wildly agitated katz ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag who's "in theory" blogshit, http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~luca/cs276/ ?
mircea_popescu: "The CRYPTO community's typesetting abilities are not spared, nor is Oded Goldreich's spelling." ahaha.
mircea_popescu: when in doubt, both.
mircea_popescu: in whatever sense he desires.
mircea_popescu: in that order.
mircea_popescu: use the old one to certify the new one in all instances you care about, sign a dead key notice with the old one, drop it in the sea.
mircea_popescu: besides, it'll teach you how to correctly obsolete keys so you don't need them to expire anymore.
mircea_popescu: make a proper new key an' obsolete the old one for safeties.
mircea_popescu: you are a noob.
mircea_popescu: had an entire "point still stands" thing prepared, but i guess not needed now!
mircea_popescu was looking for the easy "no, one was born a year after the other died", but neway.
mircea_popescu: but not familiar with this one in particular.
mircea_popescu: to answer the original q : i am vaguely familiar a bunch of different such schemes were entertained by people with varying degrees of competence.
mircea_popescu: ok.
mircea_popescu: the thing is as good as pressed shit.
mircea_popescu: there isn't a woman anywhere they waited to take turns on, they never waited on each other to return books to library, nothing, vacuum ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag take the first thing that came to my eyes. so dedekind and fourier are ENTIRELY separate nodes ? you swear to this ?
mircea_popescu: PeterL is your key 1kb or somesuch?
mircea_popescu: looks like a sort of what is it, erdos number hackathon ?
mircea_popescu: in this sense there was no literacy pre books, either. this is not a property of the world.
mircea_popescu: ever, pre-crypto, v, and all that.
mircea_popescu: well, a copywriter who found himself locked in a "math teaching" job, like that girl in my class i recounted the story of.
mircea_popescu: i can't read this inept shit. who writes liek this ?!
mircea_popescu: "The foregoing assertion is based on the realization that cryptography is focused on adversarial behavior"
mircea_popescu: in general, there isn't one. in the rare cases when human genius couples with dilligence and creates a SINGLE playing field, the pissants are unaware - generally deliberately.
mircea_popescu: your very cosmic idea of the world is inadequate in my eyes. nobody said that there is ONE playing field, and if there were one, that the pissants'd see it.
mircea_popescu: yes not fucking ugly women won't conjure pretty ones up. so ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag but the pissants have NOTHING TO DO with honest community either way.
mircea_popescu: the exact phrase, "in general X and in y especially so X" has been in use since at least the late middle ages.
mircea_popescu: that shit could be straight out of voltaire however.
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: "x is the largest number, and in particular y is larger than x!"
mircea_popescu: " In general, we believe that rigorous analysis is, by far, the best way to study reality. Moreover, in the case of cryptography, this general principle is more important than in any other discipline." <<< check out mathematiphilosophician, discovered an inequality!
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag they are no such thing. notice that when i want something, i squarely ignore their field as per http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/ and so on.
mircea_popescu: no bitch, you're an accountant. shut up and eat it.
mircea_popescu: this is sorta like bureaucrat in collapsing empire scenario, gets bitchslapped by gangster, goes into I AM JUDGE !!!11 mode.
mircea_popescu: "and this is ok, because we are philosophers nao".
mircea_popescu: me of the fundamental philosophical flaws that underly the said article and some of its misconceptions regarding theoretical research in Cryptography in the last quarter of a century."
mircea_popescu: "This essay relates to a recent article of Koblitz & Menezes (Cryptology ePrint Report 2004/152) that ``criticizes several typical `provable security' results'' and argues that the ``theorem-proof paradigm of theoretical mathematics is often of limited relevance'' to cryptography. Although it should be obvious that these claims are utterly wrong, we undertake articulating this triviality. In particular, we point out so
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_butugychag
mircea_popescu: < we have the b-a log, it works barely.
mircea_popescu: "Actually, mathematics does have a "fast publication cycle" alternative -- which is to put papers on the arXiv. This works very well in practice, and in fact a morning ritual of most research mathematicians is to browse the arXiv mailing form the night before in his/her area. After a few months in the arXiv, hopefully generating some useful comments and criticisms, the paper would finally be submitted to a journal. " <
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag thanks for those sweet, sweet delicious butthurt tears. made my morn.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker - euler figured out how to sum integers to infinity while he was a teen. where the fuck is YOUR early work that you can incremental upon
mircea_popescu: ahahah o god the butthurt.
mircea_popescu: 2. As someone pointed out in a comment from My Biased Coin blog, is "incremental results" such a bad thing for the advancement of science that one has to "criticize" in the manner that Koblitz did? As far as I can tell, the great Euler published quite a few "incremental results.""
mircea_popescu: "1. My conjecture: all scientific areas do have the "incremental results" problem. Does any one have any data supporting the hypothesis that CS (or TCS) has a higher percentage of "incremental results" published in respectable journals/conferences? If not, Koblitz' criticism is only as valid as "there are few women in CS," which though correct is hardly CS' own problem.
mircea_popescu: "Anonymous7:04 PM, August 31, 2007 The minute TCS becomes the mature mathematical discipline that you are dreaming of, I am out of the game." << and guess where anon works.
mircea_popescu: prepare for a fucking wave of that as an entire construction of circular shiteating is getting unwound.
mircea_popescu: As promised, I have written a letter of complaint to the editors of the Notices. I don't know if it will get published (it is also a bit long), but it is available here (pdf) or here (ps) "
mircea_popescu: For this reason, I thought publication of his article in the Notices of the AMS was inexcusable. Even worse, this latest incarnation of his essay goes beyond being a mere "academic" argument and degenerates to name-calling and belittlement of an entire field and all the people who work in it. (And it seems pretty clear that his feelings extend beyond crypto to CS at large.)
mircea_popescu: ptographer knows that his arguments are overblown), but I think it matters greatly when he speaks in front of an "outside" audience.
mircea_popescu: "What really bugs me, however, is how much publicity Koblitz has managed to get out of this. I see him invited to give talks at many venues, but never see anyone invited to present a counter-argument. (For that matter, I don't see invited speakers at cryptography conferences poking fun at the cryptographic work that mathematicians do.) This does not matter so much when Koblitz speaks at a TCS-venue (any intelligent cry
mircea_popescu: ahh this is fucking epic.
mircea_popescu: heh.\
mircea_popescu: "What really bugs me, however, is how much publicity Koblitz has managed to get out of this. "
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: nsa WITH A WORKING BLOCK CIPHER ends the game.
mircea_popescu: PeterL yes either set it up as default or specify it in command line. see manpage.
mircea_popescu: in random other lulz, http://trilema.com/2016/btmsr-block-cipher-competition/#comment-116438
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag he should have documented it better.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> hell, more often by own side. <<< own side can't usually be bothered. goatherder females much juicier.
mircea_popescu: something like "if you add this sort of gravel at 5.45% instead of normal gravel, you have an optimal chance of some of the cells connecting and powering hte side rail. because no, it's not gravel per se."
mircea_popescu: not in the sense of "let's embed current, fragile solar panels into roads", but in the opposite sense : we're currently creating this surface out of basically refined scum, which we keep clean all year round. could there be some shit embedded so at least it powers the traffic signals ?
mircea_popescu: actually this isn't even a terrible idea.
mircea_popescu: women, like it or not, deliver much more/better in situations of lower optionality.
mircea_popescu: mats> backed by such nonsense as, 'Israelis do it just fine!11' <<< israelis do it just fine BECAUSE it is mandatory.
mircea_popescu: reads more or less exactly like modern crypto.
mircea_popescu: (and for the record, for they of anthropological curiosities - there's an entire cvasi-science in the notes of technicians running the early infrastructure of hte industrial revolution. it's a shocking if fascinating mix of all sorts of things.)
mircea_popescu: the whole field is essentially a commune of technicians trying to run a factory. because the last time they saw a scientist or an engineer they were about 5 and one visited the zoo.
mircea_popescu: could it be that the only way lowbrow pigborn with delusions of centrality and leadership could continue pretending like he has "a good handle" on things with his schemes derived on looseleaf papers, ever so similar in contents and consistency to the ever-genius schemes of the broke if consummate las vegas gambler, horse race expert etc ?
mircea_popescu: there's this very strong undercurrent of farmer mind fighting against the complexity of the world through denial and fetish worship, if you look at it. WHY must entirely banal approach be secret ? perhaps for the same exact reason children playing spontaneously errupt in "it's not fair like that", to fix the necessarily broken rules of the GAME they are playing so it's playable a little longer ?
mircea_popescu: then someone discovered every other year and they had to run around strongarming ibm and whatnot to not explain why the fuck the sboxen must be diddled just-so.
mircea_popescu: an it be already.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2016#1397029 << understand, a fucking field where something as commonplace as differential cryptanalysis is "classified"... every SINGLE FUCKING PERSON of human composition to ever EVEN CONSIDER the matter came up with differential cryptanalisis within the fucking day. because what the everloving fuck. as a 10yo playing with 10yo girls i came up with it. just how fucking hard c ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ahh, such the reading list in log this morn. nice.
mircea_popescu: and to turdcherry the shitcake, all these nobodies on a stick run around spewing wholly delusional notions of expertise and amateurship. just don't ask them to put it to any sort of actual test.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2016#1397028 << quite. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: who exactly wants this ? other than fucking nsa, of course, as per usual. ("but mr goldstein, you SIGNED that child porn. whadda ya mean it's an automatic process you don't control.") ☟︎
mircea_popescu: omfg.