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kakobrekla: pdf = 10% more ipo btc
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optimator: mircea_popescu: well that's a 12% increase over the next 3 diff changes to make that bet true
Namworld: That's over 10% of ASICMINER valuation
Exocyst: Even if they turned 75% of that into hashing power, they'd never be able to manage the power requirements
Namworld: and that gives rights to 20% of profits. Valuation: 160'000 BTC
Exocyst: I'm 90% liquid, so here's hoping
saulimus: well, I'm down -50% or so.
pankkake: what does that mean? they sold only 25%?
matuszed: haha 15% Spread
Rulother__: <labcoin_dev> well,of course it's not a 100% true statement
ozbot: 37392766.13647 | Next Diff in 1150 blocks | Estimated Change: 25.7238% in 5d 22h 22m 0s
weex: guess it depends on how well they can hold their % of network hashpower
weex: I prefer to set a % to have in each and rebalance. Change the % only if information comes to light that changes your outlook for them.
Exocyst: I'm going 90% liquid. If one of these goes scam, then the market will drop.
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 16 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> anyway, some new kid. smart enough to have at least found this place, which i guess puts him ahead of 90% of the forum bankers.
mircea_popescu: anyway, some new kid. smart enough to have at least found this place, which i guess puts him ahead of 90% of the forum bankers.
Hollywood: that is if they owned 100% of Avalon and had no expenses
Hollywood: $200 million invested in Avalon, after they broke up. All mining revenue is approx $11 million a month- fractured into a million parts. So even if they mined 20% of the network that is 100 months
lque: isn't labcoin the one that recently said they wouldn't sell more than 25% of their peronsla shares/
ThickAsThieves: 40% goes to issuer, 25% what's left goes to reinvestment, the rest goes to shareholder
ThickAsThieves: icedrill gets 40% of income
VanCleef: 10% off would be sweet :P
mircea_popescu: buy from me, 10% off.
VanCleef: at least 50%
VanCleef: investors need mroe than 20% tho
topace: they are still taking 80% of the risk
VanCleef: 3 million for 20% valuation of 15 million dolars?
ozbot: Why bitcoins are 60% more expensive in Argentina than the US
thestringpuller: you can get ~10% gains per difficulty cycle
thestringpuller: it pays 18.7% annual interest
wavedigit: aren't people just buying up XBONDs, waiting until they have +5% (or more of course) paid by dividends and then selling them?
thestringpuller: XBOND can always be redeemed for 95% of it's value at any time
thestringpuller: wavedigit: well it seems that the cost of exiting a position in XBOND requires 0.4%
scrybe: 90% wrong about 3 legs on a triangle of random topics, but YES!
scrybe: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265521%20size=18 if you have not seen the link
ThickAsThieves: "After realizing it was easy to catch us selling all our shares, we sold as many as we could for now, and have about 75% left. We WILL sell these later though, k?"
Rulother__: Q: Why not lock in 100%?
Rulother__: This means that no founder or developer owning shares in LABCOIN will sell an excess of 25% of their shares for at least 365 days from today&#39;s date.
Rulother__: Due to inquiries LABCOIN has received from investors, the founders and developers involved in the LABCOIN project has decided to voluntarily lock in 75% of all shares owned by the LABCOIN core team for 12-months.
ThickAsThieves: if i wanted i could just arb the difference over 5%
pankkake: I guess he wants to sell at more than 105%
ThickAsThieves: When it comes to investing, it's survival of the fittest, and if the people who are wanting to invest in your bond opportunity and haven't done enough research to know that you can issue more at any time, and that the callback amount will never be more than 105%, that is their business and their business only."
pankkake: easics has many clients, amc isn't likely 1% of their income
matuszed: ~30% yield
mjr_: 20%
jurov: yes. and it isn't binary bet, if diff is only 78 million, you a still get 98% back.
smidge: dcx is down 4.61% in the last 9h http://dcx.smidge.com/
B0g4r7: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=%22a%20zurich-based%20private-equity%20fund%20that%20on%20tuesday%20plans%20to%20invest%20%24200%20million%20in%20avalon%3A&source=web&cd=11&ved=0CCkQFjAAOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424127887323997004578644491403250124.html&ei=WBr_UbrXFYHo9AS4hoCoDA&usg=AFQjCNFl5xaVOueXCGwUJb3VoQsQgdjlOQ&sig2=LUJutZBxvkWWpxUy2IX6Nw&bvm=bv.50165853,d.eWU&cad=rja
ThickAsThieves: my 5% note is off, but the point remains
ThickAsThieves: This means that if you buy an XBOND at great than 0.00105, you run the risk of loss if it is ever called back before you receive 5% in coupon payments.
ThickAsThieves: Please be careful speculating on the price of XBOND. The callback cost is 105% (0.00105 bitcoins each).
pankkake: well it would be a 2% loss, if the callback was today
ThickAsThieves: except xbond has a face value and a callback at 105%
pankkake: +7%, it's not too crazy. however I put up some sell orders at +19% face value just in case someone goes mad :p
ThickAsThieves: i'm referring to like 1-5% or so
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smidge: 8.5%
smidge: im trying to figure out what sent the index up 8% when am is "only" 50% of the index
smidge: thats 8.5%, yet the index also went up like 8% http://dcx.smidge.com
pankkake: slowly getting back to 20% of the network? :)
jurov: One share gets 57.5 satoshi and rounding error is thus almost 2% .
mircea_popescu: Guest16230 seems it's up 50% this month, what are you talkin' aboot
Diablo-D3: otherwise Im taxed on 100% of earnings
optimator: ~40% increase
gribble: ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 1 minute, and 2 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> maybe 25%-30% diff increase
ThickAsThieves: maybe 25%-30% diff increase
mircea_popescu: if you think about it, that's half of asicminer's total profits, and for that matter prolly > 10% of its entire profit over its entire lifetime forever.
VanCleef: and currently own 0% of the mining network?
dexX7: well, that's an estimate. 20 % hashing = 720 btc + hardware sales ... but this far away from constant though - maybe 500 / day is more accurate
smidge: its capped at 10%, how coould you exclude it
dexX7: smidge: a company is excluded from the dax if it's weight exceeds 10 % or it's 30d volatility is heigher than 250 %
smidge: thats why i think a 25% cap would be a compromise between a pure mkt cap index with asicminer having 60,70% and a pure equal weight with 10 securities each having 10%
smidge: companies like siemens are capped at 10%
smidge: its working for real world indices. dax has a cap at 10% per security, 30 of them in there in total.
smidge: but i agree that there should be a max value for the index share, like 25% for asicminer
smidge: DCX is up 2.99%
Chaaaang-Noi: im not sure mp went on the internet in the 90s. it was pretty much 90% americans...
Neil_: Refund means 0% is my point.
mircea_popescu: the 1% theory is also weak, as the site charges the same total no matter who wins.
Neil_: mircea_popescu: If you can't see the contradiction in the resolution of the two bets, I can't help you. I've written it off. But IMO it's a black mark against the neutrality of the resolutions. I don't know how they were decided, but IMO the benefit of drama and 1% fees cannot be ruled out.
mircea_popescu: if you expect to lose 0% they're always -ev
mircea_popescu: they're not +ev except in the perspective where you expect to lose 50%.
mircea_popescu: in general house makes about 50% back of what it bets.
ThickAsThieves: 36% of US is trading on BTCT
ozbot: BTC Guild - Bitcoin Mining Pool (97% PPLNS/92.5% PPS)
ThickAsThieves: fter they had collected 5%
ThickAsThieves: KRS1, if everyone wants to redeem all at once, then I profit on the 95% redemption
ThickAsThieves: my job is to put that money to work to make a larger than 18.25% annual gain
ThickAsThieves: techincally it is 100% backed by btc equity
thestringpuller: 95% backed
thestringpuller: yea like 10% per year worst case interest
thestringpuller: but because it backed by 95% face value at any time (5% being the cost of liquidity), it's meant to be held for a long period of time
thestringpuller: if you redeem for 95% value you have to wait for 100+ days of dividends for it to pay itself off
thestringpuller: as I said you can redeem each bond for 95% face value with the issuer (TATI)
thestringpuller: TATI will pay you 95% of the face value at any time for redemption to liquid BTC
thestringpuller: worst case liquidity cost is a loss of 5% per bond
wavedigit: then how come it pays 0.05% ?
Hollywood: 75% sold out TaT