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mircea_popescu: ok. as a preliminary step, ima publish old logs on trilema, so they're in the db, so they get transferred automatically.
mircea_popescu: it was the orig spec
mircea_popescu: lol nah
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, hm ?
mircea_popescu: ah, so is the ball in my court, am i to get the box ?
mircea_popescu: conceivablt mocky also shows up, we have a great ole party.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, well, i dunno, how do you intend to deliver ?
mircea_popescu: bvt, once done fixing the kernel rng, you wana join in this fray by the way ?
mircea_popescu: otherwise there's significant risk of taking the maniacs at their word.
mircea_popescu: only as a temporary measure if anything. help them build a solid basis upon which to properly disdain the engineers.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, if worst comes to worst i guess ima have you manage this for 'em.
mircea_popescu: and both ave1 an' trinque have qs pending, so that completes tonight's session.
mircea_popescu: i'm not about to shoehorn him into the wrong hole if i can help it
mircea_popescu: jfw, hey, it's a free slavery thing, people can do their own part
mircea_popescu: dorion, my pleasuee
mircea_popescu: spyked, what sorta time could you commit on a weekly basis, if this tmsr os megaproject actually gets going ?
mircea_popescu: and after that -- is this something that appeals ?
mircea_popescu: lobbes, how long till i get to testrun that delivery!!! i'm leaving for the orient in a few weeks you realise!
mircea_popescu: aite.
mircea_popescu: there;s oodlebunches of work in a large project that don't involve scrutinizing arcana
mircea_popescu: i think either line can be pursued, either we attach you to whoever's in charge as an administrative trainee or else you get piecemeal tasks on the tech side.
mircea_popescu: did i leave anything out ?
mircea_popescu: well, consider and let me know.
mircea_popescu: dorion, is your interest rather in the pm side of things ? or are you tryina learn how to code as well ?
mircea_popescu: i was rather gonna ask what you feel comfortable with on the mid term
mircea_popescu: i wasn't considering either one of you for the former
mircea_popescu: i'm trying to work something out re both ownership and manpower.
mircea_popescu: well, so would an arrangement whereby you work with other people to develop a workable tmsr os work for you then ?
mircea_popescu: how long have you two known each other ? with dorion i mean ?
mircea_popescu: so what is your commitment towards this thing ? kinda like a fun weekend project, or what is it ?
mircea_popescu: if 1% of 1% of the million can be convinced to be fucking sane, that's already enough people to finish the damn thing already.
mircea_popescu: kinda why i don't give the first flying fuck how many retard bois "get upset" or whatever, the demons/voices/their mom tells them to choke on chodes.
mircea_popescu: it's literally a recipe for nothingness.
mircea_popescu: if there's one million engineer bois out there, and if the destiny of an engineer boi is to make an os, worth 100k man-hours, and if they never talk to each other, the result will be 7-800k empty boxes containing no os, but three to four figure wasted hours.
mircea_popescu: this strikes no one else as eminently wasteful ?
mircea_popescu: counting ave1 s putative item, this promises to be three not-quite-usable, not-so-published identical reworks of the same damned thing.
mircea_popescu: how come ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile : you ever looked at the cuntoo thing ?
mircea_popescu: not that this generally does anything. but it's also never a bad idea to be plain with people.
mircea_popescu: dorion, yes, well, i'm not young hands ; and i'll tell you what anyone in a similar position will tell you : code made to oder and not published is generally suspect of being, at least in the view of some party somewhere, their property.
mircea_popescu: so you know, come 2025, is there some durbles gonna show up "oh, gales was really developed by outside help for my corp!!!"
mircea_popescu: it's not an idle question on my part. there's actually reflected in the very history of the republic as logged, the case of some dude showing up years later to push ridoinculous claims. look for grubbles sometime.
mircea_popescu: i asked you if ~they think~ they own the code, not if god does.
mircea_popescu: so then what's v to do with anything
mircea_popescu: ?
mircea_popescu: what, you delviered to said customers a bundle of v-patches /
mircea_popescu: and so the customers who've paid and you've delivered code to, were they basically doing what's caled it consulting in the us, ie, outsourced desk jockey to skimp on the pension & benefits plan ? do they think they own the code you've delivered, for instance ?
mircea_popescu: but is this a registered corp ? or some kind of informal arrangement among friends ?
mircea_popescu: so when you say customers or w/e, is this more of a manner of speaking ?
mircea_popescu: how long has it been a thing at all ?
mircea_popescu: is it public now ?
mircea_popescu: so are you working on getting lamp for it ?
mircea_popescu: isn't it awkward to not have lamp ready in that context ?
mircea_popescu: so this'd basically be a server thing, by its nature, rather than a general purpose os
mircea_popescu: now, which is it. 1 or 2 ?
mircea_popescu: in case 2, you don't know such for a fact.
mircea_popescu: in case 1, you know for a fact it won't be possible to have gfx with your thing, it has to be thrown out / redone / the thing that can do gfx can't carry the same name as your thing meaningfully.
mircea_popescu: "well... is it loyal ?" not really. "how about having children ?" actually, i think she might be already pregnant.
mircea_popescu: man 2 comes and says "hullo... i have anothe rsolution. i call it 'a virgin'. she's a bitch to get along with, but..."
mircea_popescu: you can't have children with a dog, it is necessarily out of the question.
mircea_popescu: "well... but is it loyal ?" quite very loyal. "how about having children ? i think i want chilndren too".
mircea_popescu: man 1 comes and says, "hi, i have a solution to this. i call it 'dog'. it's very companionable."
mircea_popescu: so, someone says, "i want companionship in my life". this is the general problem.
mircea_popescu: let me make a comparison here to illuminate.
mircea_popescu: do i have to throw out gales if i decide to use graphics as a given necessity or don't i
mircea_popescu: but the q is, how would it go
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: dorion, interesting how these coincidences work out!
mircea_popescu: jfw, i am talking about 3d acceleration specifically.
mircea_popescu: dorion, for that reason, or coincidentally ?
mircea_popescu: so as a purely theoretical exericse, what'd gaining x support entail iyo ?
mircea_popescu: so you basically just import w/e drivers redhat or w/e is using ?
mircea_popescu: this is what i'm asking, what's the extension process like
mircea_popescu: traditionally the problem with private distros is that one day someone tries to install int on some new hardware mix-and-match and it dun go
mircea_popescu: so how do you go about driver support ?
mircea_popescu: hey there.
mircea_popescu: so it's basically a training tool, as far as that goes, a didactic example
mircea_popescu: and so what's this customers ?
mircea_popescu: so, what's this gales thing ?
mircea_popescu: jfw, hey
mircea_popescu: should be interesting
mircea_popescu: the republic can't be used in ANY OTHER WAY. eminently, it CAN NOT be used as ANY KIND of "how to stay stupid" guide. nor will this fundamental inadherence ever be capable of being turned around, "oh, mp is a meaniehead, stupidity is where it's at". nor ANYTHING other than the intended fucking purpose.
mircea_popescu: the point of the republic is for you to look at how stupid you are AND STOP BEING IT.
mircea_popescu: da fuck's next, mod6 's patented "let's pass a gpg'd tarball back and forth" ?
mircea_popescu: and promptly shat on your agreement immediately thereafter.
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, you agreed with then --
mircea_popescu: so no, i won't sign off on these (or any other) guys' waste of time over random nonsense. because the thing that comes immediately after a putative "yes mp, ima do that then" is "make a plan, i want to read this thing", not "you lot, go do what he says". hence http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950068
mircea_popescu: so try and get off your nonsense horse for the like third time this year, learn how to meaningfully communicate AND DO IT, we might have something here. but in any case the something we will have will NOT be linear extension of the alf shit. i ain't ever again doing anything like that.
mircea_popescu: half-ass commitments, plausibly-deniable commitments & the whole charade of alfisms are no longer something i will accept -- for the sore experience of how poorly it works when i do accept them.
mircea_popescu: and as to the "bois etc" -- is very well fucking earned. the logs since http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950066 ie a week ago are sorely missing a "trinque: yeah, I WILL DO THAT". or an equally clear, "no, i won't do that". this is what separates the bois from the men : FIRM committments.
mircea_popescu: sense of exactly none at all will work splendidly well, and alternatives ain't available.
mircea_popescu: what, it's only the republic when it pays, otherwise it's "mp's folly" or somesuch ? a lot less of this in the
mircea_popescu: as an aside, i very much dislike the ambiguous relationship to the republic, along the lines of "check out my son, he got 1st prize in drag racing" / "have you heard what your son's done, he got himself expelled!!!" traditional intramarital passive-agressive idiocy.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950636 << none of this is actually accurate. for one thing, it wasn't "manage lobbes and spyked to make s.mg an os". it was, "hey, you did some work towards something that's actually needed, namely ~a republican~ os, do you intend to continue or move on ?"
mircea_popescu: where's the "don't do all that" ?
mircea_popescu: hanbot, ^
mircea_popescu: !!deed http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=XoyQ
mircea_popescu: !!invoice jfw 0.055 http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950571
mircea_popescu: * pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu :is now your hidden host (set by services.) << fucken nonsense, i never noticed before tey fucked my name.
mircea_popescu will eschew the "you're mammals, stop trying to mate like angler fish already, femparasite bois!" article for now, though it's becoming quite self-obviously a major part of the problem of this supposedly civilised world.