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asciilifeform: aite, diana_coman : let's then at you. did asciilifeform hypnotize you into 'wrecking' smg product ?

asciilifeform: diana_coman: aimed at the whole l1, not you in particular. tho if shoe fits, can wear , if you want.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: but of course. 7y+ waste of pixels, obv. so let's then settle all the objectively unfinished biz ( trinque where is tx 5e2b91f003f4af577244005ee0fd57701a03abeae76323716d06eb71f49b7837 ? ) and be done.

asciilifeform: this is spelled out in asciilifeform's resignation, which ( as mp_en_viaje 'can't be arsed to larp!11' ) i'ma drop into deedbot when the tx clears and BB returns photos etc.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 14:23:32 mp_en_viaje: it's what it is ; you don't like it, you shouldn't have made it.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948815 << ftr ~asciilifeform~ likes his 7o of works just fine. and will continue to make'em available, and developed, in the obvious place. (for whom? for folx who get tired of 'php republic'; for folx who stuck b/w mp_en_viaje's hammer and anvil , having to actually make the systems go, while elaborately pretending to do it with properly blessed 'aryan physics' ; or for no one at al

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: actually i disagree that it's unpleasant. i fully expected you'd stall for weeks. but much better to have the firing squad when ready, and not when 'weeks of reflection', this is sumthing i think sovok got right

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:31:45 mp_en_viaje: i don't think it's intentional, in the sense that i don't think alf has the capacity for intentional activity. he's an object, like any chair, or compass, or whatever.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948740 << right, the only trooly intentional act is to sit in cafe and smoke cigar made of benjies. whereas to try an' sew some sorta usable purse outta 30 yrs of 'tech market' sow's ear , is what furniture does. ( at least mp_en_viaje is 100% consistent with his greeks, aristotle would sign under this. 'kings -- intention, while work is what livestock does' .)

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:19:25 mp_en_viaje: there's two major points where his idiocy conceivably sabotaged us. of this, the part where we're certainly not getting people in at the rate he sends them out is not of interest to smg.

asciilifeform: ( it aint clear for what mp_en_viaje wants'em, aside from outta spite, if they're a work of sabotage; but it aint my place to ask )

asciilifeform: asciilifeform for instance is aboutta put'em back into production. ( mp_en_viaje asked to repossess whole current stock, which he'll get, when posts where he wants'em to go ; and so happens that i'ma need new ones. )

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:40:47 mp_en_viaje: yes, it's nice to have the fg ; but not at the cost of being stuck waiting for an isp that elaborately ain't happening. and so following.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 11:11:37 hanbot_abroad: realizes she confused a hand-out asciilifeform kernel config for direct involvement

asciilifeform: indeed i expect mp_en_viaje is very busy nao, what with mailing out razor blades an' page #s where asciilifeform has to be cut outta the great soviet encyclopaedia.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i can't resist to ask, why did mp_en_viaje not yet accept asciilifeform's resignation ?

asciilifeform: i dun even grasp, mp_en_viaje , why mp_en_viaje et al are in 'omfg wat-do' mode. the Right Thing to do , per mp_en_viaje's handbook, and all written tradition, is ~exactly~ this.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:40:58 diana_coman: poisoned offerings, if I understand you correctly.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:22:55 mp_en_viaje: but we absolutely must look at the whole stack, with a clear eye, and clean it of alf idiocy. i don't even care if some useful bits get thrown out in the process so much

asciilifeform: so, it happens that i agree 100% with mp_en_viaje's 'wat-do' -- yes, throw out the poisoned offerings. all of'em. go to stone age circa 2013, remake yer tech stack w/ own steam ( and remember to properly steal the asciilifeform creations you can't actually do without, pick a designated aryan to assign credit. )

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i dun have kilometre of buffer, maybe half dozen moar. ( atm waiting for walletron refill tx to get mined so i can settle invoice , and BingoBoingo to post photos for final manifest. )

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:40:35 mircea_popescu: all sorta chuck moores, "famous" and apparently ever so good and useful, just WAITING for you to give them a chance to strangle you.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:24:17 mp_en_viaje: i want to make sure i've done all i can so i don't end up in the same circle of hell as he, and the rest of them "engineering" retards, from chuck dicksuck to all the rest.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-30#1948712 << there's no chance we're going to the same hell, mp_en_viaje . we're going to different hells, aint room enuff in 1 for both of us.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: maybe, which is why bothering to answer.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 14:58:32 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936895 << the four foregoing lines are amusing, because 100% of your emissions re comings and goings of great inca are predictable, always downstream on the basis of "great inca is great".

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-30 10:38:52 mp_en_viaje: i am saying, qutie plainly, that the man's allegiance is to the inca state, through the intermediate avenue of staqu quo preservation. again, not intentionally, but intention dun enter into any of it.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-29 15:43:39 asciilifeform: same as above, but decodable by mp_en_viaje key .

deedbot: diana_coman rated dorion 2 << my pageboy; writes at http://dorion-mode.com/

mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, i'm actually paying to have the logger fixed, get the ass-sucking dependency he baked in there as an idiot taken out.

hanbot_abroad: mp_en_viaje: i would expect interaction with the republic at all and certainly immersion in l1/frequent discussions with you would cause a great deal of reflection on and revision of held beliefs/paradigms, and sure, even frequently, or many times over. it's a shame that there even exists a specific pattern that'd make this rot, rather than revision. but i guess same can be said about any decay process.

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I'm surprisingly calm and collected but I'm weighing all sorts; and yes, I would rather give it a few days.

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I suppose there is also the same question applied potentially to the FG and FFA then; but fwiw I digested FFA as well as I could and I still think it is a gem, perhaps a pearl better put: quite the result of successive spinnings/polishings

hanbot_abroad: mp_en_viaje: digesting

mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i do not know what i want you to do, hence this convo.

mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, to use the geometric terminology you introduced : alf never in his life walked a line. what he does is, he spins a circle.

mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, 1sec.

mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, no. let me explain this clearly :

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: do you want me to look at alternatives there? at the very least to see what/how/any?

mp_en_viaje: hanbot_abroad, throwing out the bread works if that's what happened.

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: in hardware terms, the recent tests re deploying server showed at least that we are not married to any specific arch so I'd say that part should not be a problem

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:40:35 mircea_popescu: all sorta chuck moores, "famous" and apparently ever so good and useful, just WAITING for you to give them a chance to strangle you.

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: over the past few months I had *loads* of precisely thinking re survival given as the whole client+ graphics+EVERYTHING kept growing as work for me to do rather than ever receding so I can get to developing the actual game on server.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 11:21:04 mp_en_viaje: because he has sexier things to do than what you need ; and, importantly, because this is WHY he wanted to be a "craftsman" in the first place, and why attempted to scam you into buying custom, rather than standard items : so as to fuck you over by doing "sexier things", because in his broken mind the very thing that impels the "craftsman" misbehaviour also looks at your damage as implicit justification -- in that

diana_coman: at the point with ben_vulpes I admit I couldn't figure out who was really messing up more there, honestly.

ossabot: Logged on 2018-02-05 21:11:14 mircea_popescu: and as an added bonus, you now get to go about looking for lords willing to bring your ideas about republican iron to the table, because i'm not further looking for your input on the topic just as i'm not further looking for your input on eucrypt topic.

mp_en_viaje: then ben_vulpes stepped in, and most of what he heard, for years thence, was "oh, you were so underslept you forgot one bag" ; never "i was such a moron, you had to fly on short notice, i guess ~I~ forgot your bag"

a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 02:11 mircea_popescu: and as an added bonus, you now get to go about looking for lords willing to bring your ideas about republican iron to the table, because i'm not further looking for your input on the topic just as i'm not further looking for your input on eucrypt topic.

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: this: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781873 ☝︎

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: sure, just not fully clear on what there; but I'm all ears

mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, ^

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: now I am

mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, you about ?

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 20:49:54 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: re: mp-wp bot's spitting of the files, do you want some automated cleanup of said directory at every Nth file, or fine to just leave them be? Also, are you fine if they are static php files or is html (with teh embedded php) an absolute must?

ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-17 04:43:51 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1946013 << php is perfectly fine. there should be a counter somewhere keeping a "max disk size" setting, an inventory of total bytesize, and that deletes oldest-first when the former exceeds the latter.

lobbes: mp_en_viaje: in mp-wp bot updates: I've got the search results piece (with the auto-delete-old-results functionality) complete.

asciilifeform: same as above, but decodable by mp_en_viaje key .

BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Right, your expression of interest was when the thing went from an idea bouncing around in my headcase to a suspected good idea.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: meanwhile ( per tradition of asciilifeform's homeworld ) here is my resignation. mp_en_viaje can unseal if he wishes, or wait until march or whatever fits his aesthetics.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i expect to sign the final inventory today, after BingoBoingo cuts my seals and inspects the inside of the 'dulap's.

BingoBoingo: It is one of these sort of suspicions http://bingology.net/2019/10/29/preliminary-inventory-of-items-once-hosted-by-pizarro-and-presently-in-my-care/#footnote_0_3068

BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Having seen the folks diana_coman is catching in her school house and the issues they have with tight writing, I am inclined to draft an offering for a journalism short course. Maybe I catch some of my own students, maybe I get some referrals from diana_coman and others looking to tighten up the prose of their catches.

mp_en_viaje: with diana_coman as to the future strategy of s.mg (which normally'd belong in eulora, i suppose, but honestly might as well happen here, not like there's any traffic jam or anything) ; and of course with diana_coman hanbot trinque BingoBoingo lobbes spyked bvt ave1 as to what exactly we still want and we can in fact support going forward.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-29 06:08:11 diana_coman: heavy reading.

mp_en_viaje: so, if you ever end up publishing half an article because your connection died mid-publish for w/e reason, and as a result your article's comments are closed -- the one pill is to edit the db, set comment_status & ping_status to "open" again.

BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Thank you very much

BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Not service. Bluster of the "do what we say" flavor.

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: not the criteria by itself anymore at the time he was born,no; it was some additional years

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: no, he's not because neither parent is uk citizen

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: no, in london but the romanian consulate is 200% a piece of romania indeed

diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I went to make child's passport - also a sort of ..european experience!!

BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I suspect the lack of pings is a shortcoming of the way I set up the LAMP on the lifeboat. I will investigate it, probably later this week.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 06:44:58 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, why is it just so hard for theses folks ? check this shit out : http://younghands.club/2019/10/28/jfw-plan-week-of-oct-28/?b=Inves&e=#comment-59

asciilifeform: fwiw mp_en_viaje made it quite clear in june '19 that he intends to close snsa. and this was part of the reason why i set up private rack, it will host phuctor in-exile, asciilifeform's www, and anyone else who has the courage and dun insist on marionette control of the entire thing simply as condition of hosting a box or 2.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'm hosting a demo box for diana_coman , so it aint purely 'your' .

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: if you intend to fatwa all properly orthodox folx from subscribing, plox to let diana_coman know, give her time to find new blog host.

asciilifeform: re 'play dc', asciilifeform's 'evil, useless dc' will be there 1y, 2y, from nao. and open to anyone of asciilifeform's l1 who wants, even mp_en_viaje.

asciilifeform: also i hate to piss on mp_en_viaje's freudian parade, but i haven't got 'self image' or whatever other nonsense phlogistons tlp et al persuaded mp_en_viaje of existing.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: the only missing piece is BingoBoingo's count of the items currently in his flat. after it matches mine, will sign.

asciilifeform: anyways after BingoBoingo counts , i'ma post signed text where mp_en_viaje asked, so long as he gives his word that will actually read it.

asciilifeform: asciilifeform worx 14h+ days. mp_en_viaje sits in cabaret and smokes 100$ bills. but somehow the former is 'avatar of lazy', eh.

asciilifeform: i could ask same of mp_en_viaje

asciilifeform: the blog mp_en_viaje dun read? lol

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: do you want this as a signed text ?

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there are 4 FG here; 12 spare analogue boards. at piz there is a http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-02-05#1781749 , a http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-02-05#1781753 , and 34 FG (that were sold to piz, and i have still nfi whether mp_en_viaje wanted'em back physically or as coin.) there also were 4 x 256GB mostly spent ssds, they are in the mail and i've nfi whether will see'em again, neither correo.co

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: plox to gen an' sign that addr. otherwise if there aint a hole into which asciilifeform can pay, i suspect even the still-hypnotized folx won't buy then 'ran off!111' .

asciilifeform: moar alive nao than ever. as for mp_en_viaje , plox to post the signed addr. piz liquidators, plox to take proceedings to #p. folx who intend to continue to crib off asciilifeform's work, which continues, or want functioning hosting : to #a. (which i'ma take is no longer official mp castle, i'ma take off the sign shortly.) next gen of FG will still be produced, on asciilifeform's dime ( and i'ma respect mp_en_viaje's wishes if he wan

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 15:42:42 mp_en_viaje: i barfed at the line quoted ; the loper-os page is still loaded in the browser but i guess ima get to it in a year or w/e. like with newspapers, you know, antiquarian interest.

asciilifeform: as for this -- can read nao, or never, or year later, will still be there, when asciilifeform operating the only 'gossip' hosting backbone-sitting isp, and mp_en_viaje excommunicated 5 moar people for failing to lay atlantic fibers for him, and still has none.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: also plox to generate an addr where you want it, and sign. ( i dunno if will be able to operate deedbot after we're through and asciilifeform is unplugged in #t. )

asciilifeform: that being said, let's make it faster , iirc mp_en_viaje valued the snsa gear at piz at 0.9. invoice asciilifeform for 0.9, i'm already warming up cold wallet to pay mp_en_viaje the earlier 0.3 invoice .

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: explain what diff it oughta make to asciilifeform whether gets fraudulent '-10 : ran off with the gear' or '-10 : ferrocranium refused to go on isp suicide mission' from mp_en_viaje ?

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: the inventory's in piz.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re snsa, it was always yours to do with as you wanted, was structured in such a way (w/ the e.g. 'mpex fee' exponential growth) that asciilifeform was guaranteed never to see a bitcent from it. ( and knew this; worked w/ mp_en_viaje strictly outta principle. )

asciilifeform remembers that mp_en_viaje dun read #o

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: might want to let diana_coman know, to 'stop follow the amateur exertions', she's been assigning e.g. 'v.py' as homework.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: can persuade to read ? can then barf correctly. ( the #s dun lie, in fact show what intake can expect per subscriber, etc. ) even if you build own isp, the ~same mechanics will apply.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 16:57:34 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947800 << /me shall read this sunday, then.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: didja barf before or after reading ( as promised ) 2nd ed of #s ?