asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: the inevitable thing is that vtron users' expectations must re-adjust.

asciilifeform: i can't really disagree with mircea_popescu.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: look also in the log, i think it just got fixed 1/2 hr ago

asciilifeform: possibly because i don't do the update thing ?

asciilifeform: fact is, doesn't seem to work on anything

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ikr ?

asciilifeform: gpg --verify some.vpatch.sig

asciilifeform: hdbuck: paste what ?

asciilifeform: kakobrekla ? mircea_popescu ?

asciilifeform: imho, at the very least he oughta be able to ask assbot and get the pubkey each of us is presently logged in with.

asciilifeform: but there are non-solution approximations of varying degrees of brokenness.

asciilifeform: just as there is not a solution to the three-body problem.

asciilifeform: and there is not an actual solution to the key distribution problem.

asciilifeform: well clearly it does not.

asciilifeform: what, make the 6, 36 ?

asciilifeform: so this does not automagically solve.

asciilifeform: anyway hdbuck has done his 6 mo. tour of duty, iirc.

asciilifeform: but now it seems like hdbuck somehow ended up with my expired subkey ?

asciilifeform: after i explained that it is a catastrophic mistake

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i thought he quit doing this ????

asciilifeform: hdbuck: if you take that key and manually run gpg --verify ..... on one of my patches, what do you get ?

asciilifeform: i did not say that this was a solvable problem, in the usual sense.

asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al : possibly a neglected subject in the wiki, trb site, etc. is where the hell a n00b is supposed to get pubkeys.

asciilifeform: hdbuck: but is it the key that v is using on your box ?

asciilifeform: hdbuck: this appears to be a correct key.

asciilifeform: (dpaste)

asciilifeform: paste the public key you have for me.

asciilifeform: WHEN

asciilifeform: hdbuck: where did your set of keys come from originally ?

asciilifeform: hdbuck: please get my updated key from http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB98228A001ABFFC7 (and/or http://www.loper-os.org/pgp.asc )

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: hdbuck: apparently.

asciilifeform: either update the wiki EVERY TIME it gets obsoleted, or... don't bother HAVING it.

asciilifeform: but the one practical observation is, PICK UP YOUR TRASH

asciilifeform: i have yet to devise any serious final solution to this (outside of eldritch horrors like blockchain telegraphy.)

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this thing where outdated crud floats around, confusing people, drove me to madness long before v etc.

asciilifeform: how did this ~ever~ work ?

asciilifeform: does what.

asciilifeform: 'curl -s -o V-20151129.tar.gz' ??????

asciilifeform: but that was not my question.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i get that

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aaand ?

asciilifeform: at any rate, WHAT THE FUCK was 'curl -s -o V-20151129.tar.gz' EVER supposed to do ??????

asciilifeform: i have every possible wwwtron here, i think ☟︎

asciilifeform: doesn't highlight there, either !

asciilifeform: this dun work on my box.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: is this supposed to highlight a line ?

asciilifeform: hdbuck: where and when did you get it ?

asciilifeform: this script cannot possibly work.

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 rather, 47

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 http://dpaste.com/2ZZXGPW << wtf is with line 46 of that ?????

asciilifeform: your build

asciilifeform: where does it die ?

asciilifeform: hdbuck: yours barfs on line 45, gpg --verify buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz.sign ?

asciilifeform: (or dpaste it)

asciilifeform: first things first, link to the build script you used

asciilifeform: and post the file hash here. (sha512)

asciilifeform: hdbuck: try verifying it by hand, and tell us what was the output

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: this doesn't tell us much. artifexd and dignork are still logged in, long after having set sail on the flying dutchman

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did the buildroot fella ever come back to you with a modern sig ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: ugh

asciilifeform: which one ?

asciilifeform: hdbuck: it works, or it doesn't ?

asciilifeform: hdbuck: unsure how ?

asciilifeform: (or i shouldnt've bought those decade-old dimms...)

asciilifeform: either that or i finally got fed the polonium. ☟︎

asciilifeform: my first cosmic ray !

asciilifeform: [Hardware Error]: Error Status: Corrected error, no action required.

asciilifeform: [Hardware Error]: MC4 Error (node 1): DRAM ECC error detected on the NB

asciilifeform bbl, food

asciilifeform: any evil empire worth its salt, breeds monsters.

asciilifeform: concerns degenerate behaviours in captive animals and maps onto man

asciilifeform: sorta about this

asciilifeform: ever read 'the human zoo' ?

asciilifeform: sop in insect world..

asciilifeform: aha!

asciilifeform: i often wonder why they never raise big cats

asciilifeform: the dream of being eaten...

asciilifeform: i think this is really it .

asciilifeform: ah

asciilifeform: what triggers the cats?

asciilifeform: after what?

asciilifeform: and you forgot to list the cat-breeding.

asciilifeform: this is the fate of people with no theorems.

asciilifeform: no theorems.

asciilifeform: with the male equiv.

asciilifeform: except for the 'interest man', they reliably pair up

asciilifeform: so far i'm with this, i live in town with 30,000 of it

asciilifeform thought at 'etsy' was a site for abysmal artists

asciilifeform: also what is http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416509 , now i'm curious ☝︎

asciilifeform: this may be an MP-complete problem!!1111

asciilifeform: possibly.

asciilifeform: but actual mask doesn't trigger the same revulsion

asciilifeform: i like theatre but won't lust to it

asciilifeform: and the bovine empty stare.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the plastic face (partly literally, pound of cosmetic)

asciilifeform: the 'hambeasts' are deformed

asciilifeform: not having been yet invented.

asciilifeform: it is more that my allergens are absent