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assbot: Logged on 24-03-2015 14:54:16; fluffypony: I think it's very hard to tell the difference between mistake and malice.
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2015 14:51:20; mats: look, i'm putting my skepticism on the record. if there was evidence, it'd look like 'Tor Stinks' or the slides from Der Spiegel's work on the Belgacom pwnage. i'm not saying that Dual_EC_DRBG doesn't have obvious flaws or that anyone should continue using it, but my skepticism regarding it being an intentional backdoor remains
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-03-2015#1067789 << well, i'd expect no less from schneier.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I have no backing for that brainturd. Just inundating el braino with tequila given seekrit mission otd.
ben_vulpes: me, i have beds to burrow into
ben_vulpes: okay i'm logged
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2015 00:37:43; assbot: Logged on 23-03-2015 06:08:33; ben_vulpes: <decimation> I just thought of a brilliant anti-'area denial' (to usg term) weapon system. imagine a small turboprop uav ... that can drop its wings and turn into kerosene rocket << why bother with expensive turbomachinery? just use solid propellants...
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2015 04:46:57; ben_vulpes: i do this regularly, but in what scenario today?
asciilifeform: if it is used in the exact form we are accustomed to - i see no issue with it
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2015 04:35:44; asciilifeform: i was considering lasering mine
asciilifeform: i see purple logo
ben_vulpes: heh i like that.
asciilifeform: personally what i'd do is look for and verify foundation gpg sig on tarball on sd card when button pressed
nubbins`: i don't think so
asciilifeform: eh i know it isn't 'sexy' but don't forget the seed list.
ben_vulpes: i'm calling on you lol
ben_vulpes: i get to strike #1 off the foundation todo list!
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2015 19:20:12; mats: http://i.imgur.com/09FTJTl.jpg pictured: one partially disassembled hellfire missile
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> you can't postpone everything until everything else just like you can't have everything louder than everything else. << i think i found where this started
asciilifeform: 'i packed this. --mr grunt'
ben_vulpes: i don't understand what's so special about 'tandem operable'
asciilifeform: (i for one will happily jump with the parachute i packed for self. but my carcass isn't worth especially much)
ben_vulpes: i do this regularly, but in what scenario today?
asciilifeform: i will admit that, with regards to the reference version (let's call it 'traditional') i am especially interested in a tandem-operable variant
asciilifeform: i intend to
nubbins`: i like it
ben_vulpes: <nubbins`> mod6 i should stress that *none* of the hardening options are included in that makefile, and it really should not be used for anything other than reference << see, reference y'all
ben_vulpes: <nubbins`> ben_vulpes mod6 mircea_popescu and other interested parties: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uJQDaKcz << neat
mod6: <+asciilifeform> and i think mod6 had a bunch << naw, don't even own one yet.
asciilifeform: i was considering lasering mine
nubbins`: i've got some nebulous plans to kit-ify these & sell em
asciilifeform: i'm almost beginning to not-regret picking that machine
nubbins`: i'll have 3 at some point this week
asciilifeform: and i think mod6 had a bunch
asciilifeform: i presently am sitting on no fewer than 12.
asciilifeform: lol i cleaned a cm of dust off my pogo today.
asciilifeform: the kernel i just posted, sees the nand.
asciilifeform: if ben_vulpes and mod6 decide that we must have an updater (signed, naturally) i suggest that the button be used to trigger it
nubbins`: i wish :/
nubbins`: i had to double check
asciilifeform: i have it too
asciilifeform: anyway since when do i have to decide this
asciilifeform: but i wasn't even thinking of this.
nubbins`: ah, i thought the purple logo'd one did
asciilifeform: the one ingredient that is still needed, that i have not attempted at all, is the formatter
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: today by popular demand i went on a little deathmarch and got a source-built traditional linux going on it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: netbsd i had running weeks and weeks ago. but it sucks for reasons already described in log
nubbins`: oh, yeah, i see em
asciilifeform: nubbins`: there are some memory-mapped i/o iirc
asciilifeform: just as i suspected
asciilifeform: tomorrow evening i'll 1) flash in the rootfs to get something like a working box
asciilifeform: guess what, i built a kernel
asciilifeform: that's the boojum, i think
nubbins`: i thought i accidentally pasted twice when scrolling down to pastebin submit button!
asciilifeform: i mean, it's 10x the size
gribble: What do you think I am, a shell?
nubbins`: but i think the guide i used was for 3.18
nubbins`: which is what i followed to get my pogo up and running
asciilifeform: was first place i looked way back when.
BingoBoingo: In other news I discovered apparently firefighting trains exist
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> nubbins`: one's a phantom limb, i think << Phantom limbs got me much less excited about the latest Sun hardware I'd been investigating when the problem of keeping a post 2016 blockchain would have been a big challenge. (IDE limited to sub 127 GB, USB 1.1, and Firewire ports unsupported in OS of choice which means gambling on PCI USB 2.0 card working for moar storage)
asciilifeform: nubbins`: one's a phantom limb, i think
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hence why i spent so long on it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is the -only- thing i was able to build from source and actually get a shell on
asciilifeform: just like the... 57? previous linux kernels i built for this thing.
asciilifeform: building for arm922t which, as far as i can tell, marvell is compatible with.
danielpbarron: that's it? i thought maybe it patched stuff in the source or something
mod6: it seems a bit silly to post a patch also back to the original portatronic version for this. anyone have any objections if i just publish a full copy of the 32bit auto.sh and a patch of auto.sh to the previous version (v0.0.5 included in the -RELEASE) ?
asciilifeform: i can tell none of you tried to build pogo's vendor kernel
mircea_popescu: i mean shit, you can't go around conflating everything you don't know about for chrissakes.
mircea_popescu: which i wager is before he thinks feudalism STARTS
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can tell he's using the su version of capitalism (it being, 'what is left when you subtract stone age + feudalism + communism from the cosmic background hiss)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'll add that this is (or was) sop in ru world
mircea_popescu: "here's what i remember of this bad translation of a phenomena by some people who didn't live it, and who are so far from me culturally i in turn have no idea. let's make an infographic and educate reddit."
asciilifeform: see i can tell where he got it.
mircea_popescu: i am willing to bet, on the strength of that diagram, that his disneyland notions of "feudalism" preclude him even knowing WHEN in time this happened
mircea_popescu: this is why i don't like reading orlov. the propaganda angle doesn't bother me as much, but the millitant, sheer ignorance does.
mod6: it's 1 change to the auto.sh file, & have to have the 3 vars at the top set correctly. I'll post a copy of this auto.sh, a diff to the 64 bit version and a diff to the original portatronic version yet tonight.
asciilifeform: i would dearly love to know what kind of 'open source' the folks who built that archlinux kernel practice.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah you did say, and yeah i guess pretty much everyone honestly trying has figured out the same thing, if not necessarily apt to express it.
brendafdez: what does it mean I lose logging? local logs? bc I do see it in the online log for the channel
brendafdez: This is weird, do I lose cloak when using the web interface? :/
decimation: heh I didn't realize there was a book
asciilifeform: decimation: i never saw the animated one. only had the book
asciilifeform: that's another hour or three that i will have no useful output.
decimation: i imagine so
asciilifeform: decimation: i did, long ago, and replaced with real serial console
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2015 06:08:33; ben_vulpes: <decimation> I just thought of a brilliant anti-'area denial' (to usg term) weapon system. imagine a small turboprop uav ... that can drop its wings and turn into kerosene rocket << why bother with expensive turbomachinery? just use solid propellants... ☟︎
asciilifeform: ('i want too!' -- then see listserv)
asciilifeform: considerably easier now that i have it booting off the lan
decimation: I've been thinking about building a 'geiger counter' rng like herr walker's
decimation: ah I was looking for png
asciilifeform: Adlai: starting to warm... << one of the two practically-usable programming -systems- (note, i didn't say 'languages') designed by and for thinking people
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ...the original dispute that created this place... << now i'm curious
asciilifeform: would not this problem be adequately solved with a huge slab of steel / al << i did say.
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform i see you got the boards delivert << aha see pics
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2015 14:25:53; nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/ksBVtHB.png
mircea_popescu: why would anyone partake ? "i am not taking part in your kangaroo mockery. you want to either win or flip again, i dun have time for that"
funkenstein_: pete_dushenski, no i hadn't heard of it
funkenstein_: i just watched "under the dome" documentary on china air pollution