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assbot: Logged on 28-03-2015 14:43:57; Chillum: Glad it is still being worked on. But frankly I would like to see a complete re-write of the client
nubbins`: sadly no connector handy, but i'm definitely putting a pin in it for later.
assbot: Logged on 28-03-2015 14:23:56; Chillum: I did not know that
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-03-2015#1076596 << i dun think we want one, but if you wish to be the b-a ambassador into the midwest... that and india possibly the only places that need an embassy from la serenissima. and candi's got the india.
mircea_popescu: for some reason i have trouble with her name.
Chillum: trinque: yes I came to understand that
trinque: +Chillum | I can understand it. It is removing a security layer, presumably for speed << the whole RPC thing will likely come out, not for speed but for blowtorching complexity
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-03-2015#1076568 << am i the only one who finds the fact that nubbins` had to put FOUR excuses to doing a blog in the blog fucking domain hysterical ?
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-03-2015#1076548 << tbh i suspect it's a sexual dysfunction.
mircea_popescu: "but i like to kvetch"
ben_vulpes: yes i know
ben_vulpes: i was actually musing on the absence of any leads-only tango practicas in town
ben_vulpes: somehow i doubt you're going to have more children than me
ben_vulpes: i'd like to see you do this to some poor cabbie
mircea_popescu: dude. i been despising their local accent and doing the proper y = ll thing, but im totally going to say it as bishinghurst
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's nothing, he's permeating harem speech. yest i was waffling over whether to go to icecream place, girl goes "well not like we gotta go and get the imensatron necessarily". ie, we could get a smaller tub. but no - imensaTRON!!1
funkenstein_: somebody was talking about a "hosed bus" when i needed to pick one
mircea_popescu: so i guess now you're hosed.
ben_vulpes: now i want a directory!
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i mostly blame alf
mircea_popescu: Chillum i understand how the stupidity defends itself - like any other. what encuriouses me is... how does it get born.
Chillum: it involved sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!"
mircea_popescu: i mean, sa kruger going "impossible" i can see. it was early.
nubbins`: lel. i can imagine.
Chillum: I have been an admin on wikipedia for 8 years, the thin skinned ones die out
Chillum: ah I will reflect on that
Chillum: I think big
Chillum: okay fair enough. I dont' know what scale you are working on
mircea_popescu: Chillum i was thinking, get the naked ladies to do specials.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun really has that many, no.
mircea_popescu: did i post the crates of pogos anywhere or not yet ?
Chillum: I got 5 Pi 2s and 10 more on the way
Chillum: I could offer raspberry pis, but you would need to VPN your own internet connection to them, I don't want bitcoin/irc dudes using my home internet lulz
asciilifeform: Chillum: can't speak for others but i in particular am interested specifically in migrating -from- aws
Chillum: well mircea I can write a wrapper for AWS that accepts bitcoins from people on a whitelist
mircea_popescu: Chillum i've been trying to shoehorn random people into doing it since... omgerd 2013.
Chillum: mircea_popescu: I bet.
asciilifeform: (note to n00bs - this is a good place to point out that the 'air' in an airgap is more than physical concept: i.e. a machine controlled via radio in real time is not 'airgapped')
ben_vulpes: <Chillum> you guys should make a white paper << myeah. someday, i'm sure.
Chillum: i see
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but i don't expect to see this
Chillum: It was recommended to me by two people here before I read the patches
ben_vulpes: Chillum: some day i'd like this thing to not even have a json/rpc api.
mircea_popescu: Chillum yeah. like, you know, how the bitcoin wallets were plaintext for... i dunno, 3years or so.
Chillum: I will read _some_ of the logs later
Chillum: I am interested in other ideas, it is just a bit hard to understand what your best practices are
mircea_popescu: not that i've (and others) not said the same thingee.
Chillum: I would love to read an essay describing the sort of infractructure you find safe
Chillum: May I suggest that you describe your best practices so that people running this SSL free code will know how to not do it wrong?
Chillum: So if I understand correctly SSL was removed because if I need SSL I am doing it wrong?
mircea_popescu: Hope you are doing well. I am a client services manager here at AdMedia. I was wondering if there might be a possible partnership opportunity between our two companies. We have previously and recently ran campaigns for trilema.com via third party networks. We wanted to discuss the opportunity of working directly
Chillum: if the built in API is really that insecure I suppose I can write an access layer
mircea_popescu: oh rassah, i remember this.
funkenstein_: for example if i am trying to publish a transaction to the world with my wallet, why would i encrypt it before sending?
funkenstein_: i thought ssl was for websites
Chillum: I could ssh tunnel
Chillum: if you were not using a wallet then I agree SSL is pointless
ben_vulpes: maybe instead of "herp derp i pinions bros" you might start by asking "why did you rip TLS out with such anger and speed?"
Chillum: yes I am building a full node on a raspberry pi 2 to be used as a hot wallet
mircea_popescu: i don't think that's a supported usecase as of yet ? mebbe i'm behind here.
Chillum: I am going to get some fresh air
mircea_popescu: offending people is required to participate here i thought.
Chillum: I certainly did not mean to offend anyone by saying SSL is not a turd, if this is a controversial statement I will keep it to myself
Chillum: It is clear I have stumbled into a religious debate. I have no more interest in changing your mind about SSL than I do with you changing my mind. I will run SSL on my bitcoind API if you don't mind.
mircea_popescu: Chillum "i like turd pancakes, it's my groupthink"
Chillum: I am glad I did
Chillum: I am aware of heartbleed, an implementation failure
Chillum: I think it should come with a big "NO SSL" warning next to the download so people are not caught unaware
Chillum: I saw the diff
asciilifeform: Chillum: i am the one who cut the ssl idiocy from therealbitcoin's bitcoind. and i did it for reasons which had nothing to do with memory footprint (we did not have an embedded device project yet)
Chillum: I have worked in computer security for 15 years. While many implementations of SSL host checking are flawed and the hierarchial trust model is a joke the underlying encryption is solid until some learns to find prime factors of large numbers easily.
Chillum: not sure that I do
Chillum: I never was very good at group think
mircea_popescu: Chillum i suspek you have to do a bunch of log reading to acclimate to the groupthink.
Chillum: I still think my clients would prefer their api keys encrypted
nubbins`: i always wondered why there was a Future Shop and a Best Buy less than a block away from each other
Chillum: and I will make one to monitor the uptime of yours
thestringpuller: I'm thinking of making a bot to determine uptime of other bots ;)
nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/O2GQeHh.jpg
Chillum: no honey, I swear the assbot is for strictly business purposes!
felipelalli: I was asking because gribble is kind of "universal", it is in everywhere, including here, and also in #bitcoin-bra --- I thought assbot was a kind of universal WoT like gribble.
nubbins`: i doubt kakobrekla wants to do it, since he doesn't idle in -otc :D
felipelalli: I'm sorry.
felipelalli: I thought assbot also worked as a gribble backup?
Chillum: I can understand it. It is removing a security layer, presumably for speed
Chillum: I just need to make a $100 node
Chillum: but I am making a security app for a client. Security is a priority over speed.
Chillum: I am sure the change makes it run faster which is great for embedded devices that don't need to worry _too_ much about malware on the machine
Chillum: can't I just MITM the connection without that?
nubbins`: Chillum http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=R8c8QBKd
felipelalli: I want to buy 1 BTC in Monero. Here is a good place to ask?
Chillum: Glad it is still being worked on. But frankly I would like to see a complete re-write of the client
Chillum: I will keep an eye on the project
nubbins`: if you've a mind to try again on your pi1 (and have a cross-compile toolchain set up), i'd suggest http://thebitcoin.foundation/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RELEASE.tar.gz
nubbins`: this particular one got its NAND rewritten in a not-fun way, so i'm gonna be adding a serial port
Chillum: Nice. I tried that on a Pi 1 but it chocked
Chillum: I did not know that
Chillum: I have been spelling that wrong my what life
chetty: oops capitol ;P -- on theother hand I like the B idea better
Chillum: haha "screw you guys, I am going to start my own embassy with blackjack and hookers!"