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assbot: Logged on 01-04-2015 22:26:52; funkenstein_:
i don't see this giant
mod6: <+ascii_field> has any of you lot checked to see that the executable resulting from this build ACTUALL contains the openssl built by auto.sh ? <<
i never did, this could be a problem too
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why
i'd kinda like to get to the bottom of this.
mod6:
i guess it was doing something strange on my end, or maybe debian 6 has something strange it does?
mircea_popescu: mod6 what
i'm saying is, this stuff would not reasonably be expected by you, nor is it a function of the project.
mod6:
I don't know why it worked for me.
mod6: mp: im not sure
I follow
mircea_popescu: which is a 20 year old project, and which
i had been using as a reason to justify why im not taking a piss in rms' hairdo
mod6:
i think, maybe im not the right guy for this. or at minimum,
I need someone who can look over my shoulder on this. there's no way we should have these issues 5 months into a project.
mod6: mircea_popescu: nope. none. my deb6 environments (yes more than one) all compiled it fine with gcc 4.4.5.
i didn't have problems on gentoo either fwiw. but not sure what the gentoo AMI had for a compiler. my guess is that
I was fooled by gcc.
mod6: so re: all the uint32_t, sorry that you're all having problems with this.
I guess
I missed a lot of stuff.
mircea_popescu: his desire to own a cnc mill is a result of his desire to own a nuke, which is a result of his desire to go "either you stick to this rule or
i kill you"
nubbins`: asciilifeform
i'm done w/ this for the evening, but my next step will be to try again with gcc 4.4.5, which mod6 says was current (in debian) when 0.5.3 came out
trinque: this is what's problematic to me here;
I am on no one's side...
nubbins`: fuck am
i ever glad shit like this is just a hobby now
ascii_field:
i'ma go sit in traffic for a couplea hours now. perhaps one of you independently wealthy folks can fix it meanwhile.
danielpbarron:
i find that fact to be comforting as it is generally consistent with the reality described in the Bible
danielpbarron: well that's a relief;
i had thought my gentoo install was borked
ascii_field: jurov: fair.
i'm not sitting and 'go, zetas, go' either.
nubbins`:
i did get 1 failed target on openssl build
jurov:
i can see annoyed and bored late roman citizen "go germans go" .. just not my cup of tea
nubbins`:
i'll pastebin more relevant vomit
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> mircea_popescu:
i would not waste the gentlemens' time if
i did not think this were interesting. << rather.
ascii_field: but every time
i have a small success in the things
i work on,
i picture some 'full spectrum dominance' type who will have to sell his daughters six minutes sooner
ascii_field:
i don't expect atomic dirigible to pick me up from the hell
ascii_field: jurov:
i argue that anything that meaningfully opposes usg is to be applauded
jurov: so that's why
i wonder what you endlessly argue for
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> (which result from my gcc NOT going behind my back and inserting stdint exactly where wanted, the way everyone else's apparently does) <<
i don't even know how to check which tools are lying to me
ascii_field:
i can readily believe that jurov personally prefers to live in a us colony than ru colony - and do not take issue with this, it is very much a private matter
trinque: man,
I just wanna end up unknown somewhere with a greenhouse
trinque: meanwhile
I'm not about to run out in front of the white house with my dick out and a target painted on my chest
jurov: so then
i'd begrundgingly go with the narcist
jurov:
i'd prefer some third way, but serenissima is not world power yet
funkenstein_: ascii_field, if a bunch of assholes wearing usg hats take me down,
i will know it was a bunch of assholes wearing usg hats took me down, not a giant
funkenstein_: a gaggle of midgets can be dangerous as fuck
i give you that
ascii_field: nubbins`: understand,
i do not know them personally. though
i used to keep the company of some people who -ate- from dumpsters
ascii_field: nubbins`:
i can name, if
i want, a hundred people who live in dumpsters.
nubbins`: ?
i can name a hundred people, right now, who live in this fashion
ascii_field:
i mean, the whole lot of us schmucks who are stuck here
trinque: dunno that
I'm rational, but
I'm contemplating it
ascii_field: re: earlier thread:
i will point out that folks who got on the plane and left usa borders but still earn a living from something on which usg might exert pressure, directly or indirectly, are still inmates of usaschwitz.
mircea_popescu: "To those that suggest that the Sun has something to do with the weather,
I say that is just a superstition. The Sun is far too far away to have any effect on the neighborhood. And besides, the Sun comes up in the winter, but it does not stay warm. But, as soon as people stop using lawnmowers, it gets cold. So, it seems obvious and irrefutable that carbon dioxide causes global warming, and lawnmowers are the main sourc
mircea_popescu: in other news, "It seems obvious to me that global warming is caused by carbon dioxide, and the main source of carbon dioxide is lawnmowers.
I have noticed over the years that it gets really cold during the winter, and during that time
I rarely hear lawn mowers. But, as soon as
I start hearing the occasional lawnmower in the neighborhood, it starts getting warmer. By midsummer when
I hear lawnmowers every day, it is al
mircea_popescu: ascii_field im not saying it's a complete solution.
i am saying it is a lot more than nothing.
trinque: yesterday
I spent a fair amount of time thinking about how the US was already the totalitarian govt of much of the world long before
I was born
mircea_popescu: ascii_field oh meanwhile
i recall who callas is. the reason
i don't like openpgp!
trinque: not yeah,
I walk down two halls or whatever
mircea_popescu: or to quote, "Goddamn right, that's right. Guys come on: "Oh, the blah blah blah,
I know what
I'll do:
I'll go in and rob everyone blind and go to Argentina cause nobody ever thought of this before.""
trinque:
I have it, but no
I have not
trinque:
I'm thinking deedbot wants something other than
http and dns if it is to survive
ascii_field: trinque: mine's not done. and
i don't think the other fella's is, either. but ask him
mircea_popescu:
i suppose war is inevitable when people agree in principle but not in fact.
mircea_popescu: "
i just graduated from stanford,
i don;t know anything."
ascii_field: which is to say, he can push a button and
i starve
ascii_field: as
i've said perhaps a dozen times, if there isn't an icbm battery between you and the lunatic nato reich - you're fair game to them.
ascii_field: re: mein Führer's decree: when
i tell folks
i have an expiration date in the none too distant future - they laugh.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
i would not waste the gentlemens' time if
i did not think this were interesting.
mircea_popescu: a)
i don't think think this would have been caught by pretty much any other outfit on the planet and b)
i don't see the proposition we've found a deep seated hole is readily dismissable.
assbot: Logged on 01-04-2015 18:24:13; ascii_field: ^ and
i refuse to do this.
ascii_field: '
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ascii_field: what
i actually meant was 'one which is not actively insulting to the intelligence of practitioners'
ascii_field: now,
i'm not saying we should all eat our nagants, nothing can be done. one can achieve some measure of stability. but as things fall apart, as they increasingly are, the fuzz at the edges will look like... this.
ascii_field: but the devil lives in the details.
i have on my desk, for example, two nominally-identical microcontrollers which behave - differently.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu is only the 3rd or 4th fella to suggest that
i take up maintaining a linux planet
mircea_popescu: ascii_field exactly. which is why
i said, "when confronted with a bad software stack (pick a pogo, fix the os, run it there) is the correct solution not just for THAT one problem but for all the problems derived from the same source."
mircea_popescu: ascii_field
i am actually suggesting people move their day to day computing AWAY from "linux" or from "gentoo" which are MEANINGLESSSSSSSSS