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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wasn't aware that was on deb sarge.
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 16:09:47; mod6: Ok, so say that you have installed via offical docs, bla bla bla. Ok, then our release doesn't work. But we need to fix defects, and I refuse to have this happen going forward. So we need something repeatable.
asciilifeform: aha so i gotta download bins
asciilifeform: i mean, with my existing compilers.
mircea_popescu: i think you should STILL be able to yes.
asciilifeform: can i re-create it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do this in life. if you have a reasonably-fast computer, it is tolerable.
mircea_popescu: i can appreciate the ... spherical chicken appeal.
Cogburn: thank, you but you need not keep voicing me. I'll consider the invitation for the WoT. Glad to clear some things up. Have a great night.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: or the other thing i suggested
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1084266 << i don't think this will work.
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 15:59:45; thestringpuller: no. i'm going to have to cancel for family reasons related to finance
mircea_popescu: ( ) Extreme profitability of spam << i take it this was 2000ish ?
asciilifeform: sorta the same feeling i used to get when i was a regular reader of 'secret' forums for spammers
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's targeted at folks who think the usg is a good idea and windows an operating system.
asciilifeform: i haven't seen anything as insulting to the intelligence of the reader as 'voltage security co.' in many years.
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 15:06:45; asciilifeform: What You Need to Know About the Unsealed Silk Road Docket << i do so hate these 'what you need to know' titles. implication is that no serious person would need to know anything else
asciilifeform: i suppose one can patent a chumpatron.
asciilifeform: for all i know, 'keybase' is a licensee
mircea_popescu: i suppose you're right - this service existing is sufficient prooof what it's serving isn't crypto.
asciilifeform: but the asymmetry is required for honest crypto. i.e. if mr luser can determine a privkey to go with luser@luserdom.com than so can you and i
mircea_popescu: why couldn't i have arbitrary pubkey ?
mircea_popescu: (yeah yeah i know, as if)
mircea_popescu: no but i mean for srs. this could actually be done correctly
cazalla: <Cogburn> Hahahah we had a twitter fight a year ago and people think i hate you <<< not people, your friend from coinwhatever website
mircea_popescu: but i never seen one.
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1084140 << magically, i have never seen any of this irl
Cogburn: Okay. I did not ever think that bitcoin would outperform BH.
Cogburn: I apparently did an interview with a blogger antagonistic to you and I wanted to clarify any guilt by association
Cogburn: Hahahah we had a twitter fight a year ago and people think i hate you
mircea_popescu: btw, anyone ever got rms' new autoreply ? the one where he goes "i'm on a 48 hour delay like mpex" ?
asciilifeform: am i talking to a perl script ?
Cogburn: I see what's going on. No issues from me.
Cogburn: I'm an order out of chaos sort of guy.
asciilifeform: if i say that i -disagree- with dijkstra - then i do not believe these things.
asciilifeform: let's say i said 'i think dijkstra was doing it right.' that would imply that i am in favour of structured programming, against the use of 'goto', and in favour of 99.999% of programming students being flunked and similar fraction of the practitioners of that profession - being fired.
Cogburn: Dunno. Not my problem. I know he has one. I know he's passionate about it. That's what I think is important. The rest is how history will remember our efforts.
asciilifeform: i mean, what does it concretely mean, in your mind
asciilifeform: Cogburn: i'm rather curious re: what you believe mircea_popescu is doing. 'right' or otherwise.
Cogburn: I think those of us who get this blockchain bitcoin magic internet money bullshit have the opportunity to demonstrate and lead by example. Quite frankly IDGAF if MP is crazy or I disagree. I think he's doing it right. I think he knows he's doing it right, too :)
trinque: many ways, probably. but I think it's naive to think that transition happens all nice and easy like
danielpbarron: slavery isn't the problem with the current state of affairs; it's this mentality of "i should get to eat while also talking back to my master" that has to go
Cogburn: I think you're right.
trinque: I think ultimately people will choose whatever gives them the best life, and the sad current condition is that this is what they've chosen, because this is all they can see.
Cogburn: I appreciate some people just don't want to deal with some shit. That doesn't make them bad.
Cogburn: i'm okay with that, so long as there is a choice
danielpbarron: i am in favor of slavery
asciilifeform: Cogburn: from what i read so far, it seems like your 'fix' still involves armed thugs threatening murder to create a 'market.'
Cogburn: I could be wrong.
Cogburn: I think that RIAA is tired of getting fucked by new technology and drank their own koolaid.
mod6: asciilifeform: so, If I wanna play around, I should try gxemul before qemu?
Cogburn: When we announce officially, I will come back and AMA
Cogburn: This is not what I would call a "receptive audience" to my idea.
Cogburn: I understand. I also appreciate where it is that I say these things.
asciilifeform: Cogburn: RIAA project << i for one would only pay even a penny for something riaa-related if it somehow -takes away- at least the same penny from riaa et al. ☟︎
Cogburn: I understand your analogy better than you think.
Cogburn: I hadn't seen it expressed that way before
Cogburn: I'll consider it.
Cogburn: i just don't remember what it was about. some esoteric point of anarcho capitalism or some such.
Cogburn: i remember the disagreement. there was someone else in it too... i can't remember
Cogburn: I have no idea what we were talking about
Cogburn: I literally cannot remember the context
Cogburn: MP and I had a little row at the end of 2013 and I think that's where it stemmed from
trinque: Cogburn: I'm still waiting on an elaboration of this disagreement
danielpbarron: when condensing thoughts into 140 characters i tend to chop out the nice sounding bits leaving only the necessary harsh words
Cogburn: being critical isn't hate. i'm not above being criticized. I do and say dumb shit like anyone does. I'm also kinda nuts.
Cogburn: it's a pleasure. i'm glad i did. i didn't realize that people thought i hated MP or something. I don't hate anyone. Life is too short.
asciilifeform: <nubbins`> simply doing this manually and re-running auto.sh brings me back to... uint32_t ... << aaaaand this is where my patch in turn b0rks the thing. 'the doctor cured the patient's ear, but did poke out an eye, i fear'
Cogburn: I do have things to do
Cogburn: I am very friendly. I was invited and I showed up.
asciilifeform: <nubbins`> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xEsMZtmE << this is actually -correct- behaviour - barfs instead of pulling in system's ssl headers
BingoBoingo: Cogburn: I mean you did Changetip ISIS...
Cogburn: I'm okay with just a quick visit.
Cogburn: However I'm already 32 degree freemason, so thank you but no thank you
BingoBoingo: Cogburn: As someone else from the borderlands between the middle west and the middle south of the US I swear the WoT doesn't hurt that much
Cogburn: I truly hope MP is interested in this because if he wanted to compete with 21.co I would be very down to help.
danielpbarron: well seeing as how i'm using a node which didn't change rules..
danielpbarron: do i care that hundreds of altcoins exist? nope.
danielpbarron: i'm gonna keep running my node that ignores their invalid blocks
Cogburn: there's an article from late 2013 and i wish i could find it entitled "What if Bitcoin turned Evil?"
funkenstein_: Alert keys. I hope somebody pushes a cosbycoin message through someday :)
Cogburn: ... i'm pretty sure he did
Cogburn: many people. i fully support his threat to fork bitcoin if gavin's block expansion goes through. he's 100% correct that it is an economic alteration to the network and not simple technical
Cogburn: i smile all the time. don't be so grumpy
Cogburn: I do not go where I am not wanted. I'll talk with anyone who wants to talk.
Cogburn: I was invited and I accepted :)
danielpbarron: i told him to join
Cogburn: I think we can bullshit the current system by crypto inside of the existing rules and bring about real change. I do not believe in the decentralized anarcho-capitalist utopia as a world-spanning solution to our ills. I think people will live that way if the want to, but real freedom is the ability to say "no"
Cogburn: I do agree with everything MP says, but I do respect him. that's sort of a necessary component of dialectic.
trinque: depends I think as well on initial conditions a great deal.
Cogburn: I'm here specifically to remove that misconception
funkenstein_: for the record, i still think you're trolling us :)
Cogburn: i dunno. i shook josh garza's hand. unimpressed.
BingoBoingo: <Cogburn> i think WoT's are kinda culty << It makes a decent shit filter though. The postitive ratings often are no where near as informative as the reasons for the negative ratings
Cogburn: I think it's awesome when people say my name. :)
Cogburn: i think WoT's are kinda culty
danielpbarron: "I've developed what I call a Bitcoin Circadian Rhythm. I've noticed my body has begun aligning itself with the 10-minute block time of the Bitcoin Blockchain." << lolol
funkenstein_: i'm interested in riaacoin
ben_vulpes: just so's i can take ye seriously?
Cogburn: i have never expressed disdain. i have expressed passionate disagreement. that's what consensus is about. like the old days of the greek republics arguing the issues of the day on the senate steps