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mircea_popescu: ascii_field incidentally, i suspect the dataset there has a major flaw. to model it : two classes of brothel patrons. class A comes to reception, asks "do the girls here to X ?" ; class B comes to reception, asks "what can girls here do for me ?"
ascii_field: which argued convincingly that a certain essential skill for learning to program cannot actually be taught
ascii_field: hazirafel_: this is related to a very old article, entitled 'the camel has two humps'
hazirafel_: i did this course where i wrote in java for 30 hours a week, i have no problem doing it, no pain, didn't love it, it was mildley fun . my problem was organization, i expect it's much worse in C , but i could see it as a motivation for thinking in a more organized way.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field that's nothing but the infancy/adulthood divide. it's not a personal descriptor
mircea_popescu: and the relationships a good two layers deeper/more complex.
mircea_popescu: the advantage is that c++ grease doesn't irritate the skin. the disadvantage is that well... this thing has i would estimate about 10 to 100x more moving parts than a car,
ascii_field: ^ many would-be 'doom' authors discover that they can't actually stomach the very notion of a machine which behaves precisely as instructed and not 'as intentioned'
assbot: 7 results for 'camel has two humps' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=camel+has+two+humps
mircea_popescu: hazirafel_ it's really a lot like racing. to be into racing more than someone cheering in the stands / swimsuit model crowding the finish line, you gotta take an engine apart. grease and all.
hazirafel_: you have a point, if i had the inclination into codeing needing to be block-chain literate i would of be swimming in it by my age... maybe
mircea_popescu: and you'll notice i never tell 'em that. it's a stupid thing to say.
ascii_field: but when you tell them 'write a 1980s-style MUD first' they balk
mircea_popescu: which, and i say from bitter experience, is just as large a task as making an os, and so... the largest class there is.
hazirafel_: that's a great motivation
mircea_popescu: most kids get into programming because they want to make a mmorpg.
ascii_field: for some reason i can't help but recall the kidz of 1990s who always began with 'where do i learn to write a game like 'doom' ?'
assbot: Logged on 19-06-2015 19:21:25; hazirafel_: don't know if this is a good place to ask, but here ... i'm code literate in java , and i really want to learn to know my way around fiddling with blockchains and bitcoin, i would love advice on places to start and where to get help and information. i guess i need to learn C first but i'm looking for more advice. thanks!
assbot: Logged on 19-06-2015 19:21:48; mircea_popescu: and only agreed to hire a replacewment once the replacement swore he is firing every single lieutenant in the department ?
mircea_popescu: didn't you grow up like sane people, in a sovblok urban development with 1k kids your age / acre and no tv to speak of ?
assbot: Logged on 15-04-2014 18:34:43; asciilifeform: 'we refuse to produce any more C programmers who are a danger to themselves and others.' -- my old dean
ascii_field: cpp is introduced in stroustrup but this in turn breathes not a word re: 'boost' etc
mod6: the logs (see /topic ) have a wealth of knowledge too. the last 6-12 months are worth a read.
mircea_popescu: questions are welcome, a reasonably intelligent & cultured person (which means 1% of ivy league) should be able to complete this in a year.
hazirafel_: who am i? :my name is sarah, i live in the 'holy land' , i did some programming courses in collage but bitcoin actually motivates me to learn the nuts and bolts, was looking around the net, saw a recommendation of this cha
mircea_popescu: a) not in any sense funny and b) very dangerous, ion that it offers you the illusion of having understood (through recognition mostly) but no actual understanding. which is how people end up writing insecure applications
mircea_popescu: the alternative, if you are a business person, is to have a programmer "read it to you", but this is expensive and rare a tradecraft, so. expect to spend the next year laying groundowkr, mostly in terms oif reading the codebase and wondering at the wonders of c++
mircea_popescu: hazirafel_ listen, there is no practical way to understand anything relevant re bitcoin without actually reading the code. and the code is c++. you will have to do this as a first step.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1168010 << this is drastically not how it works. an equivalent of this approach would be "was with a girl dressed in a skirt, had blow job". ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and only agreed to hire a replacewment once the replacement swore he is firing every single lieutenant in the department ? ☟︎
hazirafel_: don't know if this is a good place to ask, but here ... i'm code literate in java , and i really want to learn to know my way around fiddling with blockchains and bitcoin, i would love advice on places to start and where to get help and information. i guess i need to learn C first but i'm looking for more advice. thanks! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2015#1167863 << this would be a technically correct argument :D ☝︎
mircea_popescu: sooner or later everyone ends up with a full bitcoin data manipulator built in their favourite language, python or not.
mod6: in the case of pywallet.py, it looks like you just have to --dumpwallet, instead of being able to feed it a pub address and getting out a privkey right?
shinohai: That is just a hacky thing to me though. Definitely not a full scale solution.
mod6: anyway, I haven't had a chance yet to try out the pywallet.py thing myself; ascii_field lettuce know if it works for ya plz.
mod6: ascii_field tried last night to backport 'dumpprivkey' and 'importprivkey' from phoundation-0.7 and found that relevant data structures are entirely different << yeah, i found the same thing back 5-6 months ago when trying to do the same thing. glad there seems to be a workaround, i'm told.
mircea_popescu: seriously, anyone gives a shit abvout what you release ? as anything other than toilet reading material ? when did that happen ?
mod6: yah. for now w, i'm told this works as a temp fix: <shinohai> https://github.com/jackjack-jj/pywallet
menahem: oh i posted a screenshot, lemme find it
menahem: mircea_popescu - you're a smash, very popular. :D
mircea_popescu: menahem what's being a hit mean ?
assbot: Project Zero: Owning Internet Printing - A Case Study in Modern Software Exploitation ... ( http://bit.ly/1GnugXa )
ascii_field: mats: do you at least have a bayonet? or plan to bludgeon intruder with the butt of the bolt-less rifle ?
mats: am a fan of locking and storing the bolt carrier group and actual weapon separately
assbot: A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gnr4uX )
mats: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-land-without-guns-how-japan-has-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189
BingoBoingo: tldr: Pool implements a replace by fee patch, derps herp because it means People can double spend before the transaction is committed to a block! ☟︎
wyrdmantis: I was asked if there is a "defense" plan to "isolate" the Bitcoin XT nodes or something similar. I thought this is a non-issue for you guys... ☟︎
kakobrekla: well, you can buy a bitbet banner slot
punkman: mats: i'd suggest testing it yourself but nobody ever wants to actually buy msg < I've bought a bag of msg, it's pretty great
mats: thats probably it, too much salt is a common complaint
cazalla: well i'm assuming it was MSG but i'm not a fan of it or overly salty shit and that's what it was
mats: there's a much bigger emphasis on subtlety thats often misinterpreted as blandness by foreigners whose palettes are accustomed to american chinese food
cazalla: not sure i'd eat that.. not a fan of tofu
mats: ended up tasting like a fairly decent approximation
mats: there was a little crunch but i think there was some other filler in there
punkman: where the crickets mashed into a patty?
punkman: I tried a frozen kangaroo steak, I imagine a good quality piece won't be bad at all
cazalla: they do export a bit of it though
mats: i've heard a lot of varying things about it, i might try bear again if offered
mats: he put it in the oven and then seared it on a pan
cazalla: well everyone does their steak a bit different
mats: made it like you'd normally do a steak
cazalla: what?! (yeah i'd give it a try)
mats: although i suspect it'd be a lot like eating bear
cazalla: copypaste, i'm not even so sure the young girls they interview are upset that their pics are out there but more so it isn't actually anything special once they're included in a directory of hundreds of other girls.. and they thought they were special!
mats: if it happens they will have implicitly admitted that their humint indicates nobody else is even close to running a comparable plurality of compute power
copypaste: you are giving younger and younger kids cameras connected to a network at all times
cazalla: australian wasn't even like this 20 years ago.. i was a teenager in the late 90s and there was none of this
copypaste: being the subject of a picture has no bearing on anything
copypaste: he made a sticky about it
copypaste: is a pussy so he deleted the thread after seeing al the news haha
mats: Is that supposed to be a reference to the wire
mats: this guy was a victim of bullying for sure
mats: id probably go on a shooting spree too
cazalla: i'd bet this guy was a /pol/ack
Chicago: Sometimes its just too much medicine and I'd like to crap once in a while.
Chicago: I adapted my workstation heavily. So the change has made a difference in comfort. Now, the desk is about 36" deep and I can rest my arm on it and the keyboard sits deep too.
BingoBoingo: If you find a doctor who can help you go with a heavier topical preparation you can also switch out from ibuprofen to something like diclofenac which is too antiinflammatory to take orally
cazalla: gee you guys must spend a lot of time jacking it to require surgery
mats: a fairly common outcome, i think
Chicago: mats, The release was done and may be needed again in the future. I still have the numbness in 4th and 5th digits of the left hand once in a while (but not as bad as the constant it was prior). The meds though, I think are more for my comfort and not a real treatment. They're not solving anything.
BingoBoingo: mats: You'd need a script, and you'd need a compounding pharmacy to fill the script.
mats: BingoBoingo: can i ask for that without a script?
decimation: mats: yeah I think it came out a few weeks ago
BingoBoingo: I mean you can try a comounding pharmacy for a more extreme replacement for the BenGay. Mixing a different NSAID with amitryptiline or nortryptiline to hit the nerve endings harder
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Most hide it better, a few can save some money on true believers.
assbot: Kitchen gadgets review: the iKettle – a world off its rocker | Life and style | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1flIH8H )
BingoBoingo: I mashed up some naproxen with a bit of leaf from the lambs ear outside to use a a carrier. Positive effect for sure, but prolly would be better with some DMSO.
decimation: a company like sennheiser makes actual headphones, with specifications and everything ☟︎
BingoBoingo: I swear I had a solid case for OpenNTPD over ISC NTPD, but the opinions on timekeeping are kept in a treacherous antipode
BingoBoingo: Eventually such a shitquake will happen such that we start printing upclocked Z80 processors on a 7nm process
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Start constructing a memory palace.
BingoBoingo: Shitgnomes leave turd traps and prevent nice things. Shit lords bury gnomes in turds to highlight their wretch. Mike Hearnia is a cononical shitgnome. Theo Deraadt and alf are cononical shitlords
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Block height is always going to to a rough measure of time due to entropy. Could make a great system for a calendar, poor for slicing up a day though
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Timekeeping is a battle between astronomy and nuclear chemistry
BingoBoingo: If you want to measure epochs and years BTC blockheight is fine. If you want a race you want something calibrated against nuclear decay.
BingoBoingo: "coins" have insufficient entropy to be useful as a precision measure of time at all.
BingoBoingo: And yes, the shitgnomes fight improvement and cleanliness no matter how seemingly trivial a part of the stack janitors want to devomit