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trinque: old thread was on python, and the behavior of some looping constructs or w/e, didn'
t match set theory
trinque doesn'
t always know how obvious his line of reasoning is until it bounces off another at velocity
trinque:
http doesn'
t have any sane, orderly data model underlying syntax sugar
mircea_popescu: basically whole thing was "Don'
t implement a special show table status, use the underlying select item from schema directly"
mircea_popescu: isn'
t this "tell me about this table for a total of 0 rows" ?
mircea_popescu: so sql doesn'
t have an equivalent of head is the idea ? or doesn'
t have an equivalent of get 0 size ?
trinque: but me bleeding shoulds all over existing items isn'
t helpful
trinque: sql would be a system where I'd consider the metadata properly designed, in that there isn'
t a difference in the way it's represented, or retrieved
trinque: the thing's so steeped in "the way things are" I daren'
t comment further
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 17:08 asciilifeform: why not give example. e.g. 'i crawl www and google doesn'
t support ranged GET'
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 17:02 trinque: my statement was that yes ^ and also for the logs "you wouldn'
t design something where $giveMeNoneOfIt implicitly means a metadata fetch"
mircea_popescu: "process my data with the press X as identified from your manifest, i don';
t trust X'"
mircea_popescu: i dun see it in a design perspective ; heck, i actually doin'
t even see the problem with php. (by the time you're protesting a text preprocessor being used as a systems language your problem is not properly speaking with the tool).
mircea_popescu: i don'
t see it. i see "logins" as broadly nonsensical ; but programmable webserver seems fine.
phf: asciilifeform: well, it also doesn'
t have cgi/fastcgi so post would be somewhat pointless. i'm actually not sure what the strategy for post would be when there's no programmatic way to control it
mircea_popescu: But $495 for a $300 in the US ubiquity Edgerouter Pro isn'
t too bad <<< i.... beg your pardon ?!
mircea_popescu: i don'
t care to hear "item was put here on incatime so and so" ; just let me know what its hash is.
mircea_popescu: well odds are you don'
t know where you are and what you just stepped on.
mircea_popescu: if it doesn'
t and runs away it'll still remember the encounter. not good for it.
mod6: true enough mircea_popescu. if you don'
t properly shoulder the weapon, can have funny effects.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: unfortunately not. Am here because I finally have a nice setup where I won'
t get kicked regularly. While I have been reading some FFA and DC I do not have anything running at the moment
mircea_popescu: "i don'
t see why this fish should have colors, bleach it" is not much bioengineering.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 15:56 asciilifeform: we don'
t use it ? it dies. that simple
mircea_popescu: (i don'
t mean it's the same thing ; i mean it's in the
http because it was in the tcp.
mircea_popescu: very unlikely case, he didn'
t not get it off conveyor,
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> shouldn'
t be over 20kgs all told, this ; should fit among clothes. << I used beach towels and blankets.
mircea_popescu: somehow he went to india and they didn'
t steal his gf ; what do orcs want with weird non-galaxy looking cuisinart boxes.
mircea_popescu: yes, well, i don'
t foresee littoral combat airplane following copa around to diddle your equipaje.
mircea_popescu: laplinker make a pgp key if you don'
t have one, !!register and then you'll be able to self-voice once someone rates you
mircea_popescu: shouldn'
t be over 20kgs all told, this ; should fit among clothes.
phf: ah, i wasn'
t sure about ascii
phf: lulz, copa's website really doesn'
t like my firefox.
danielpbarron: i just need to be in court whenever they say, don'
t know a date yet
phf: fwiw, i could pick up ascii's stuff and go next week even, but the flights are ~~$1200, which i don'
t have a budget for at the moment.
mircea_popescu: and re the "use ips" : very cheap solution is to run bitcoin nodes, i'm told. those evidently can'
t share ips.
xahlee: haven'
t had for a while. last time was some year ago, oh signing emacs shit
xahlee: haven'
t had a gpg key... will take me a while to readup again
mircea_popescu: "la democracia es el unico regimen que protege y promoueve la libertad" and so on, the wall hadn'
t even fallen yet exposing the fundamental inadequacy of all socialisms in the process, whether roosevelt style or not.
a111: Logged on 2013-11-02 00:07 asciilifeform: when i read these pitches, i can'
t help but recall: "...Filtration System A Marvel to Behold! It Removes Eighty Percent of Human Solid Waste!"
mircea_popescu: anges, computers can do well whatever you decide and receive. You can begin you operating, give time to dash, following get going a further and it doesn'
t involve interfering with the entire process of the upfront just one particular. In the event you copy moving upward textual content, conclusion . pumping systems adequate particulars in the create appliance, and then is constantly on the get the job done. Laptop computer do
trinque: sure, I don'
t think there's a republican
http any more than there's a republican linux
phf: these are silly criteria for protocol ~design~, because the absolute "if we don'
t have it we'll die" wartime mentality lets you make infinite circles in a turing complete situations. ascii wants the buck to stop at range, i want to stop it at head, it's an arbitrary decision
trinque: if can'
t get 'em by themselves at all, another question
phf: asciilifeform: one data point is that in e.g. nginx max_ranges is a parameter, which can be explicitly set to 0 to disable ranges, and if you search for it you get "how do i disable ranges" q's presumably by people configuring web servers. you don'
t have an equivalent for HEAD. likewise HEAD is part of the original spec, where's ranges is a later addition. it stands to reason that the number of times range fails would be non 0 even with "modern" setups
trinque: maybe I don'
t want it; I want to tell my friend I know somebody who has
trinque: even manifest doesn'
t need to churn that much, but can sure.
phf: asciilifeform: because i don'
t remember specific names. the experience is not uncommon, because "interrupted download, let me try restarting from the middle" fails more frequently than not
phf: no you can'
t, i'm not on trial here to do discovery for you
trinque: my statement was that yes ^ and also for the logs "you wouldn'
t design something where $giveMeNoneOfIt implicitly means a metadata fetch"
☟︎ trinque: if it did that, yes, but you don'
t have a fixed headers length in
http phf: well, that's like saying that the mass of reditards don'
t follow specs so nor should we
trinque: yeah, arguable there's a saner way to get metadata, harder to argue getting metadata by itself isn'
t useful
phf: i mean, i can see the argument for "no head", but it's one of those cases where "if we don'
t have head, we'll have to invent it", with e.g. manifests, or cgi scripts that you can use to query for changes, etc. but why not let resource answer things about itself as part of protocol rather than everyone for themselves?
TomServo: There appears to be "- 36 MONTHS PROSUPPORT AND NBO ON-SITE SERVICE" included in the price, which - shouldn'
t be required, right?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> or is this what it all ends up costing after the extortionate tax..? << The +IVA means the price is before the tax. Gets hit with a duty when it hits the border, shipping here doesn'
t seem to have a trivial cost, and something like the label printer there just might not be anyone else selling. But $495 for a $300 in the US ubiquity Edgerouter Pro isn'
t too bad
http://www.palser.com/productos/productos_masinfo.php?id=17661 trinque: yeah, well, that isn'
t stateless is it
trinque: in a library
http server, one wouldn'
t implement "HEAD" anyway, would just pass the headers as a structure to w/e handling function, which shits what it likes
BingoBoingo: And routers, and not jungle cargo cult "Why would you want a network that isn'
t WiFi?" inventory selection
trinque: however if your replacement can'
t cough up arbitrary answers *about* items it serves, I wont use it