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ben_vulpes: bitbet just lost
a few months of profit
cazalla: SuchWow, so you gonna paint the #b-
a fence, wax the #b-
a floor or wut?
cazalla: there is no hostility, you're just
a little touchy
SuchWow: i'm not bragging? i was answering
a question asked of me
SuchWow: clearly it rings
a bell to none of you
cazalla: SuchWow, you brought it up by bragging about being
a founder of #dogecoin (wow, such bragworthy, not)
SuchWow: and haven't been for
a long time
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> "i thought i killed it
a year ago!"
ben_vulpes: heh. but you're here! who could resist taking
a shot!
SuchWow: cazalla: i've been upped over
a dozen times here, thanks
cazalla: people often up others that /join the channel.. sorta like answering
a knock at the door? just being polite ya know, there is no judgement one way or the other until you open your mouth
cazalla: SuchWow, is this the day where you check if #b-
a is still around long after dogecoin was put to sleep?
SuchWow: u can search ur logs for more, i've had
a few mildly amusing exchanges here (not really tho
SuchWow: I was
a founding op of #dogecoin lol
mod6: ok, i've got
a patch i created myself (post application of patches: gentoo/uclibc/PIE) for gcc... just trying to get it to work with emerge.
trinque: that's
a hilarious warning
ben_vulpes: although i did get
a claim yesterday...
assbot: Eulora 2nd event, Crafting As
A Business and other considerations on Trilema -
A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1JcLHky )
mod6: there's about
a 0.001% chance this will work.
mod6: lol, this is uglier than I had thought. I patched the gcc-4.8.4 source with all of the patches from /their/ bundle v1.5 (
http://dpaste.com/1NRJTT7.txt), and now i'm in there apply patches by hand, and only 2 out of ~10 files to patch actually exist here (the rest are for pr# files (Problem Report?)). And when I can apply
a patch, the surrounding code is slightly different.
mod6: If this doesn't go well, perhaps we'll try
a period gcc if we can get it to work with uclibc/hardened AND another caviat here is going to be weather this defect shows up in there as well (since way down level).
mod6: so trinque & I have discovered that the patch provided by the email mentioned (
https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2015-02/msg00410.html ) doesn't patch cleanly at all. Even with some McGuyvering of the patch to ensure the paths are correct etc, there are still
a number of files not found. It might be plausible to write our own custom patch for 4.8.4 to resolve the issue.
mircea_popescu: the problem reduces to "find
a salt that will turn this trivial hash into
a known hash", which is equivalent to "break this key", which makes the premise unworkable.
assbot: Logged on 21-06-2015 03:52:09; ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, is there
a good reason why bitcoind had to be
a multithreaded proggy?
mod6: ah, didn't know it had
a name.
assbot: Logged on 21-06-2015 03:52:09; ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, is there
a good reason why bitcoind had to be
a multithreaded proggy?
williamdunne: That actually makes
a lot of sense, want to keep hold of you for when you are big
mircea_popescu: if it's
a large company you don't gas about dividends. if it's small hire them as consultants or w/e
mircea_popescu: but best used in the hands of
a competent local accountant, because it's complex.
williamdunne: So works out
a lot better if you have high profit margins to do 3% income
mircea_popescu: you can also opt to be
a vat payer (in which case you also get to deduct vat you paid)
mod6: So yeah, in the version (v0.2.1) from MPs email, that code to find the external ip is included. Also if I do
a checkout of tag v0.1.5 from git, same thing. Still don't know who added it for sure though.
mircea_popescu: it just transforms
a numeric value into
a boost "object"
ben_vulpes: well i'm reading that as
a ternary operator
ben_vulpes: heh, mebbe in that i've worn her in
a bit now.
Vexual: surely its
a diff machine now
mod6: anyway, im /exausted/. have
a good night!
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, is there
a good reason why bitcoind had to be
a multithreaded proggy?
☟︎☟︎ mod6: who knows why satoshi put that in there. i kinda find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have understood IP headers. perhaps he was trying to ensure that every connecting node was indeed
a real host, not some spoofed packet magic.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: daring acts of bravado belong to they in possession of
a map.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it's
a subtle kind of malevolence wherein needless complexity is all of
a sudden necessary because of
a subtle misunderstanding of the bedrock
mircea_popescu: no, retarded is
a different degree. has to be actively dysfunctional somehow
mircea_popescu: this sounds like an argument against assfucking. "because there's
a cunt there"
ben_vulpes:
a) how is this an actually necessary thing
mod6: So, I think I'm gonna stay the course on trying to patch 4.8.4... if we get into
a giant hassle with it, we'll cut bait for the time being and try to build something like 3.7 and try that.
mod6: ah, hmm. sure, we could give that
a shot instead if you think its worth my/our time.
mod6: or upgrade to
a much more uplevel version of gcc to test and see if that works instead. iirc, version 5.x included
a fix for this? maybe 4.9.x did too.
mod6: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/4.8.4/../../../../x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/4.8.4/../../../libc.
a(jmp-unwind.os): relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against undefined symbol `__GI___pthread_cleanup_upto' can not be used when making
a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: not sure how you intend to build
a dns-using thing with uclibc << this is
a chicken/egg problem yeah. maybe we can't get it fully built because of the whole gethostbyname libnss bullshit. but if we can at least ensure that it'll link properly, that's huge. then, even if it's not fully statuc because of that, we can amputate dns with your patches and retry.
decimation: at any rate, I'm going on
a geologic tour tomorrow, I need to catch some sleep
mod6: Probably need
a week to sort it out -- might take rest of month.
mod6: yeah, it's good. breaks things up
a bit, easier to read.
mod6: CAddress addrConnect("92.243.23.21", 6667); // irc.lfnet.org << would it be wiser if we spin up an ircd special for this purpose ? << i think we should make this ip non-static, configurable from
a file. these IPs can change at anytime/be honeynet, etc.
mircea_popescu: part of it is to have
a backup in case lfnet is
a piece of shit / the enemy. which is pretty likely.
mod6: well, i've run ircd hybrid many times myself. ran one for /years/. but not sure what lfnet is about really. need to look into that. but whatever it might be, it'll need to be resistant to getting packeted, unless just run for
a short time for testing.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no, this is
a temporary test thing, to see just how bad alf's latest butchery affects things
ben_vulpes: mod6: i think the ask is for
a long-running public node.
mircea_popescu: basically it takes out fNameLookup and forces
a function to always return false.
mircea_popescu: i don't think there exists
a culture in which boys past the age of sexual maturity show any preference whatever to sleep with the women, just like girls of all ages much prefer to.
mircea_popescu: and i explain that yes, at the time girls just lived in whichever room, usually moving around for
a day or
a week or whatever by their friendship or allegiances or who had bfs over
mircea_popescu: i recently discussed matters of student housing with
a girl the right age from there
mircea_popescu: you have to appreciate i come from
a land where
a fire drill would have been laughed out of town
mircea_popescu: might not be
a real man, but it is pretty awesome crab-like