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mircea_popescu: mats well, it's training, i gather. trainee pieces aren't either useful or valuable, per se. so you're not really "buying" anything.
mircea_popescu: fwiw, i had no idea leia is supposed to be anything BUT the slave chick.
mircea_popescu: which, after all, i can do.
mircea_popescu: or when i feel like testing some nonce blocks,.
mircea_popescu: so i give you nonces 1-100 to hash , and fluffy nonces 101-200. and you report nothing found, and he reports nothing found. and then one day a block on nonce 76 is found and you are forever fucked.
fluffypony: also, as I understand it, we're talking about a future time when running a pool *is* more profitable than it is now
mircea_popescu: i mean... they should still be here, riught ? they owned a year ago, right ? what happened ?
mircea_popescu shrugs. derps in reddit care who said god hates faggots. yet people who actually have stuff riding on this don't care about stuff that matters. i dunno, seems rather anecdotal.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: "miners care deeply who owns a pool" - we're getting into the realm of the anecdotal here, the mining farms I supply ASIC racks to don't care about the people running the pools they use at all, and they don't run their own
mircea_popescu: the discussion i mean. there's srsly nothing there.
Adlai: the observation which seems correct is that they don't account for the drop in difficulty caused by hashpower diverted towards attack... but i'm not certain that this lack of accounting is in their favor
funkenstein_: ok cool, I'll give it a shot :)
mircea_popescu: dude am i the only one with a scrollback or something. how is the "nash equilibrium" stuff sensible.
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ i'd read it.
fluffypony: oh I haven't looked at their specific data, just what they were generally positing
funkenstein_: i'm not saying game theory is bogus, but their analysis of the return based on the so-called attack
fluffypony: funkenstein_: the game theoretic Nash Equilibrium stuff isn't bogus, as far as I can see
funkenstein_: if any of you care i can write it up
ben_vulpes: i've been hardening my liver
pete_dushenski: quiet trilema too. i imagine that there are many preparations underway for your arrival :)
ben_vulpes: heh i actually hate running around
ben_vulpes: next tuesday when i punch out for ten days will definitely.
ben_vulpes: point being that some weeks i'm very glad to have structured my life as i've done so.
ben_vulpes: no man, when i say "the books" i mean my derpy little company's p/l statements, outgoing bills, outstanding invoices, the like
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mircea_popescu heh maybe i'm not the worst jew after all
ben_vulpes: i plan to bike around, wander around a few neighborhoods, post up in cafés to get some personal hax in, take tango lessons in the evening, nap, eat steak drink wine, sleep, repeat, con, etc.
pete_dushenski: i have nfi what you're talking about. lol which books be these?
ben_vulpes: "lifestyle business", i keep reminding myself while reviewing the books.
ben_vulpes: <decimation> [04:16] yeah I don't think they are serious, apparently it partially depends on visitors winding it << tbh i find this delightful and entertaining
ben_vulpes: i'll probably stare at the ceiling for an hour or two, thinking about the infinite amount of shit i should be taking care of before clocking out for the con
pete_dushenski: lol yup. twas a full, productive day. i'll sleep well tonight
ben_vulpes: <nubbins`> [03:53] and i walk around for a half hour... rolling it << i chased myself around my brain trying to get a look at myself for an hour or four on acid this one time
assbot: gavinandresen comments on There is a targeted attack on Bitcoin occurring right now, coordinated by national agencies. I know this because I am an insider with prior involvement in a key operation. ... ( http://bit.ly/1H6ILDq )
pete_dushenski: "Okey dokey, but this smells very much like a conspiracy theory. Especially the action item at the end: "spread the word." If you had ended with "These are the concrete things we all should be doing" then I'd be more sympathetic... assuming those things weren't just "BE EXTRA PARANOID! THEY ARE OUT TO GET US!" "
pete_dushenski: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-04-2015#1092714 << heh. i also received this e-mail
pete_dushenski: i'd like to see another such competition one of these days
pete_dushenski: ah, i remember reading jurov's piece from that competition as well.
asciilifeform: if i were to live for another twenty whole years, i could wish to produce something equalling this.
asciilifeform: a good bit of why i even came to this place
pete_dushenski: i'm not familiar with said concept.
pete_dushenski: i won't really argue that.
asciilifeform: since mircea_popescu is asleep, i shall fill in for him, and point out that: not signed - not vouched for by anyone in wot - may as well be a piece of litter on the street.
pete_dushenski: greenwald, i ain't, so you'll have to ask him
pete_dushenski: interviews shed some light as to his stances, i think it's pretty clear.
pete_dushenski: i'd be surprised if it was
pete_dushenski: ok i can see that
asciilifeform: but could so much as admit that 'though i am a german, a good nazi is a dead one'
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: at any rate, snowden deserves his share of being pissed on for his failure to say 'yes, if you are a servant of usg i want to see your miserable existence end on headsoff.com'
pete_dushenski: i mean, doesn't someone have to be in the right ?
pete_dushenski: i have the same sense.
asciilifeform: it isn't, as far as i can tell, a pretense
decimation: yeah I don't think they are serious, apparently it partially depends on visitors winding it
Chillum: I am jazzing right now
nubbins`: anyway i'm gonna have a jazz smoke and head to bed. if someone gets portatronic pogotronic static-o-matic bitcoind recipe posted to ML by month's end, i'll send you a free hand-bound book
Chillum: I will have to include a stone version of the block chain
Chillum: I found this: http://www.timescramble.com/ but that is trusting a 3rd party which is lame
asciilifeform: decimation: what the 'purpose' is of this, i will leave to the shrinks.
Chillum: perhaps I should just write "Chillum was here"
nubbins`: says "oh, i forgot", pours his quarter-cup of water into a mug, puts the pot (which has only contained water) into a dirty sink for someone else to wash
nubbins`: incidentally, i had a crazy stomach flu a couple years ago and now whenever i get really hungry i feel like barfing
trinque: I could see there being disorders of the sort of universe modeling of the brain
nubbins`: and i walk around for a half hour... rolling it
nubbins`: but it's stuck in my head and every once in a while i get a grain of salt stuck to my thumb
nubbins`: i don't even know if it happened
trinque: I'm confused; this was an object or just a sensation?
nubbins`: no, i mean the sensation of rolling the grain in my fingers
nubbins`: i have this hazy memory of being extremely sick as a young child, and rolling some very small object, like the size of a grain of sand, between my thumb and forefinger as i writhed in agony
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i suspect that it will turn up being an elementary proprioception quirk
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 02:39:08; decimation: "LAWRENCE Look, Ali. Look! That's me. What colour is it? That's me! And there's nothing I can do about it. ALI A man can do whatever he wants, you said. LAWRENCE He can, but he can't want what he wants.This is the stuff [his flesh] that decides what he wants."
nubbins`: asciilifeform the most common one i've seen is "the part just felt wrong being there"
trinque: nubbins`: yeah I see your point
decimation: the problem I see is, how are you gonna protect it from being seen?
Chillum: asciilifeform: nice link, I have read that before
trinque: nubbins`: I am invariably dull when it comes to expressing my feelings to others
trinque: that relates to how I see this, as a sort of obsession with identity
Chillum: All I know is that anodizing is used instead of paint when something needs to stand up to more abuse
trinque: nubbins`: identity-wise? I don't tend to think about it. maybe something to do with a job
trinque: nubbins`: I'll agree with that
nubbins`: what i'm trying to say is that it's impossible for me, or you, to say what any individual's motivations are when doing something this extreme
Chillum: etched PCB wallets is something I tried
nubbins`: i mean, REALLY, REALLY wanted to
trinque: nubbins`: I am
trinque: nubbins`: I was talking about the guy who chops his finger off
Chillum: I expect to remove a layer of foil, laminent or anodization from metal
trinque: that one sort of works... "I'm wired to experience far more pain and risk than I've ever seen in this boring life"
trinque: nubbins`: I was actually looking for an explanation for the thing
Chillum: I don't expect to cut metal
Chillum: asciilifeform: I am for a larger place to live, then I will be getting one. Will certainly be doing a lot of research first
trinque: nubbins`: this gets into "everything's relative" and I don't really subscribe to that
trinque: nubbins`: I'm not gonna stop him
nubbins`: sure. he could simply decide fuck this, i don't want this dick, what good's it anyway, too
mircea_popescu: i don't see why it couldn't.
trinque: nubbins`: by magical thinking I mean the kind which simply tries to declare things to be other than they are
nubbins`: Chillum i think you can
Chillum: I have been looking into laser cutters. I have seen this aluminum with a black anodized layer. The laser can blast off the black layer to give strong contrasting metal images. I am thinking it may be a good way to make very long term(decades) bitcoin wallets
trinque: asciilifeform: I agree up to the point where they try to make the body fit the "mind"
trinque: that's what I mean, able to rationalize it
mircea_popescu: just... why the fuck would i.
trinque: I think I'd have to not consider my body to be "me" to be able to cut off a finger..
asciilifeform: i wouldn't be certain that it will be very long before 'muti' is introduced in usa