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gabriel_laddel: !s so sick of asciminerism I can't even begin to tell all
Chillum: FYI I am always naked when on IRC
Chillum: I look grey but I am not!
menahem: that is the last thing i wanna picture. going back to the link mircea posted..
Chillum: The gps chip I have can operate itself at 50ma and communicate on demand to the ESP8266
Chillum: mircea_popescu: I found this: http://tim.jagenberg.info/2015/01/18/low-power-esp8266/ the sleep mode power consumption is 78 microamps and it can wake up and transmit packets in < 2ms
mircea_popescu: but i don't.
mircea_popescu: decimation if i was sure, i'd recommend it to bright young things.
decimation: I'm not sure said da really profits by keeping his job
asciilifeform: i take elephant's retort, 'i did not care to crush the ant', seriously -while elephant remains alive-.
decimation: asciilifeform: was it a home depot? I've had exactly the same experience
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had an eerily 'sovok' experience the other day. went to a shop that sold, among other items, wooden planks. needed one sawed to fit in car. waited for whole hour, while clerk after clerk inquired, where, where is the one and only man authorized to use saw (kept under lock and key)
decimation: ah I see
decimation: I suppose the only 'norm' that moscow really cared about was 'nominal submission to moscow'
decimation: I thought that the 'political meeting' was for the party to tell people what to think, not vice versa
mircea_popescu: god fucking help you if i stand up in the "political meeting" and ask you about X.
Guest64542: ok I see that there is a record of our conversation
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we - or at least i - knew that you're fond of courtroom challenge. but i can't help but also remember the various folk who tried this in ussr.
Guest64542: Mr P ummm I am not sure what you are talking about LOL
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, i guess this makes me the first of that evil species of barristish sticklers that you all love to hate that you ever met.
mircea_popescu: i still dunno that's related.
mircea_popescu: uh... i'm not particularly annoyed ?
mircea_popescu: i also like free money as much as the next fellow
mircea_popescu: i like a challenge as much as the next fellow, i guess.
mircea_popescu: Guest64542 as far as i'm concerned, there's a crowd of silly people somewhere on the web that tricked a dc into bankruptcy. yes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is a more or less plain case of 'i have the right to wear this rape dress'
mircea_popescu: nuts, i tell you.
menahem: also the reason why I stfu until I know backstories from trilema.
Chillum: at first I stayed for the spectacle, after that for the intrigue
Chillum: I am looking at you JSTORE!
mircea_popescu: but seriously, they're total fucking idiots. i even had a lengthy comment explaining to the derp in charge how to salt and hash
Chillum: then I am talking about the wrong part of DMCA
Guest64542: ok I get that. DMCA is not the proper mechanism for enforcement
decimation: but that would be something for a judge to sort out I suppose
decimation: mircea_popescu: true, but I suspect that the dc could 'find you violating' without asserting anything w.r.t. dcma claims
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I suspect that anyone who has standing to assert section 512(f) probably will get a settlement
Chillum: I was very relaxed
Chillum: mircea_popescu: I know I was using it before the web
mircea_popescu: Chillum depends how you set yours up, i guess.
asciilifeform: decimation: what i meant was: a lawsuit in an american court is won or lost at the pleasure of usg.
Guest64542: ok sorry I wasn't looking at the user ID
mircea_popescu: and i didn't use that term. he did.
asciilifeform: i have yet to hear of a dc being nailed for yanking the machine of a victim of copyrasty
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't intend to pursue some dubious "start-up" in canada on the strength of the declarations of some otherwise proven liar / confused internet person.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i predict that the case will hinge on whether 'fetlife' is a tendril of usg in good standing
mircea_popescu: oh, i'm not suing some bankruipt derps in canada, who cares about them.
mircea_popescu: i think this roughly brings us to date.
Guest64542: I'm not an expert on DMCA, but I do kind of get the idea that all you did was post links to the profiles, and I don't see how that would be a copyright violation
decimation: i can see how the dc is in a tough spot
Guest64542: before your site went offline, I did have a chance to read the DMCA takedown notice and your response
mircea_popescu: this was... i dunno, weeks ago.
mircea_popescu: some dude claiming to be "from fetlife" made a proper dmca notification, which i counter-notified
mircea_popescu: i pointed out to the dc that if it abuses dmca notice process in this way it'll end up liable, and linked them to caselaw.
mircea_popescu: aite. so basically, i saw something, said something. fetlife misjudged itself, and sent a spurious "trademark infringement" claim to the dc.
Guest64542: I know what bitcoin is. I have not actually used it. Before logging into this IRC, I read a little bit about who you are. So I have some idea
mircea_popescu: no idea who i am, what trilema is, anything ?
Guest64542: I have a profile at FetLife, and I have seen a rather lively debate there about this. But I haven't formed an opinion yet. I thought it would be interesting to talk directly with you about instead of relying on a lot of chatter
Chillum: I delete it and usually block the person who made it
Chillum: decimation: I have a javascript snipet that shows me pages in the "attack page" category. Every so often someone makes a page describing what a fag some other person is and an editor markes it as an attack page
mircea_popescu: then i saw the horror.
mircea_popescu: Guest64542 i ended up making a profile at some point. read some "build from the ground up with security in mind" verbiage from the baku character, sounded exactly like the bitcoin scammer broken record.
mircea_popescu: i honestly believe ed is actually a better wiki than wikipedia.
mircea_popescu: Guest64542 actually, they are picking a fight with me. i generally end fights.
Guest64542: Mr P: I don't understand why you are picking a fight with them
Chillum: I know a boob using a tool wrong
mircea_popescu: i happen to know what things are, having had the good fortune to exist before wikipedia did.
Guest64542: so you just scraped the data? I don't see what the big deal is
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i noticed. ridiculous.
Chillum: (kidding, I try to be very neutral on wikipedia)
mircea_popescu: and i guess ima hammer the shit out of fetlife now, anyway.
asciilifeform: Chillum: mythical book, which i imagined, telling the 'secrets' of 'k00l d00dz' the world around.
Chillum: what does ddos have to do with spamming? I have not read that
assbot: Logged on 11-04-2015 00:04:38; asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> ... dude, why so disdainful ? if you don't trust people you don't know on the basis of what they write << because i can see the hallmarks of educated mendacity. the man, whoever he is, knows that i know the history. and pretends otherwise, and that he has some sort of 'lesson' for old ignorant me. i know the type, they infest (or once did) my comments section.
asciilifeform: i'll take one guess, that it relates to http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-04-2015#1096078
asciilifeform: when i worked, many years ago, at 'nih' in bethesda, maryland - they experimented with reintroducing elevator-drivers. as i understood, it was merely an employment program for the Officially Sad
Chillum: I lived in a shitty building for a while called "The Ritz", ironically
asciilifeform: (to clarify, i am not of such vintage as where elevator would have come equipped with a living 'driver')
asciilifeform: Chillum: reminds me of an article i read as a boy in some 'mothering/homekeeping' magazine my folks had, about 'should kid thank the elevator'
Chillum: on a wiki I could fix that
Chillum: oh crap I meant assbot
asciilifeform: there once was/is an american hack writer named gladwell. was published in huge quantities and the drivel was stocked everywhere, for political reasons which i'm still only dimly aware of.
mircea_popescu: we had a guy, long ago, that cared. it is to his memory that i dedicate that line.
Chillum: I really cannot be bothered to fix every little red line under what I type
Chillum: mircea_popescu: my spelling is lacking, but I assume you can make out my meaning
Chillum: well it is on a public website for download and based off code with a free license that carries on to derivitive works, so what should I think?
Chillum: I do
Chillum: it is based off of a license that require derivitive works to follow the same license so I think it is\
mircea_popescu: Chillum last i saw the begging campaign, it was a very pointed "sucks we can't afford 1/100000000 of what google can"
mircea_popescu: i object to the spurious pretense that wikipedia is anyuthing but myspace on white
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> i wish to see the female alf. and her shoe collection. << lol, 'i wish to meet the female chingis khan and her sheep collection'
Chillum: again you make a point and I strain to understand what it has to do with the conversation
asciilifeform: there is 'britannica' circa 1958 - the most complete edition - which i own
asciilifeform: i would pay 10x for a version sans the garbage
asciilifeform: about 0.003 % is the fraction of the time i get something worth reading.
mircea_popescu: i wish to see the female alf. and her shoe collection.
asciilifeform: i happen to own this toy: http://www.cnet.com/news/the-gizmo-report-wikireader-simple-singular
Chillum: lol I made that number up based on experience
asciilifeform: actually i have a small experimental verification
mircea_popescu: which i must say for dali, and he'd have said it if he thought of it first : fucking genius.
decimation: yeah I can see that. purified into 'brutalism' in post war communist europe