asciilifeform: and yes, internal-mp says 'stop trying to finesse the basic use case of the forum, don't take the rifle fishing'

asciilifeform: and that.

asciilifeform: !s sirens silence

asciilifeform: nor any way to convey doubt about meaning or provenance, other than human-readable commentary

asciilifeform: in particular, i believe that satoshi's turd is an abomination and is barely fit for any use at all, and ought to be discarded as soon as a politically reliable alternative exists - but there is no way to infer this from what patches i have signed. ☟︎

asciilifeform: this has been itching in my head ever since the 'manual gardening' and 'regrind' thread

asciilifeform: the problem i was trying to solve is that it remains painfully underspecified exactly ~what is communicated by the act of sealing~

asciilifeform: and 'mechanizing that which must remain human'

asciilifeform: and 'meta'

asciilifeform: because, in brief, 'out of band'

asciilifeform: and he is rarely mistaken.

asciilifeform: my internal emulated mircea_popescu has actually convinced me that this whole thing is probably a nonstarter.

asciilifeform: but the gedankenexperiment of course offers no simple answer to this. just a possible component of one.

asciilifeform: but rather it is is more for scenarios that may arise in the dark future, when, say, it becomes necessary to purge material from a disgraced lord, and somehow not burn the world down in a chain reaction while so doing

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436249 << this is not really intended to function on its own, beyond 'only press +trust-sealed patches' ☝︎

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform prepares a bucket for mircea_popescu to barf into after he reads the 'algebra' piece. ☟︎

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1545

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: hm.

asciilifeform: what next, no severed head basketball ?!111

asciilifeform: no potatl ?! the aztec nationalists lied !??!111

asciilifeform: and obviously not potato but mineral battery (which is supposed to have been found, in some suggestive fragment, according to aficionados)

asciilifeform: and the crackpot archaeological thing re gilding concerned egyptians, not persians

asciilifeform: potatl!

asciilifeform: i thought this was known to all?

asciilifeform: hm

asciilifeform: or maybe not

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc this is in herodotus?

asciilifeform: (anyone recall the ancient persian execution method, with fat wicks?!)

asciilifeform: or use a wick.

asciilifeform: happenz!

asciilifeform: measure it yerself, this is trivial

asciilifeform: PeterL: <10W without disk

asciilifeform: and less so even re: no es pais pobre.

asciilifeform: i have nfi re eu.

asciilifeform: in commercial bldg - 20, sometimes 30.

asciilifeform: in usa, typical residential mains socket (and its associated wire) is rated for 15a.

asciilifeform: (yes this does not help some folks...)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how many amps to put on a single breaker is typically not 'rocket surgery' and printed thereupon

asciilifeform: yes, moar load, moar current, newz at 11!

asciilifeform: what in this joke am in not grasping ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when you plug in one toaster into your mains, and then another, and then a third, how many times the current ?

asciilifeform: regulates?!!!!!

asciilifeform: why ?

asciilifeform: so 2a

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: adds up to 1/2 ohm load res

asciilifeform: mmmmmggmgmg

asciilifeform: aha!

asciilifeform: i have no wordz.

asciilifeform: omfg

asciilifeform: wtf

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: NOBODY REGULATES CURRENT

asciilifeform: one of the reason we have the profusion of bulky chinese wall warts, etc. is the extreme sensitivity of semiconductor to supply v

asciilifeform: this did not even work well for motherfucking arc lights in 1880

asciilifeform: where you are relying on adjacent loads in aggregate to actually regulate your v

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you are missing the key piece

asciilifeform: l0lzies

asciilifeform: waiwut

asciilifeform: jurov: i can't really picture him wiring up drives with his own hands, tho

asciilifeform: so as to avoid the need for a) dozens of 'wall warts' or b) a high current dc power supply.

asciilifeform: PeterL: he suggested (i still can't tell if seriously!) to plug them in ~series~, like christmas lights, to a high voltage line.

asciilifeform: PeterL: nope.

asciilifeform: i have a massive dc supply (of, believe or not, ~british!~ circa '70s make) at my house, for this purpose.

asciilifeform: even comes with thick cable.

asciilifeform: this would work for hundred years.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a correct way to 'de-chink' the pogo power source might be, e.g., to connect them all - in parallel - to old soviet car battery charger.

asciilifeform: but nevertheless exist.

asciilifeform: it coalesces into there being arts mircea_popescu is - apparently - innocent of

asciilifeform: a pair of wire cutters would suffice.

asciilifeform: take wire cutters, rip a diode bridge out of that argentinian shit pc from article, and have it..

asciilifeform: i even brought you some pogos iirc.

asciilifeform: and there is no reason to take my word for it, go, try.

asciilifeform: well series circuit with loads that gotta get 5% of specced voltage is nutso.

asciilifeform: as in, 'your house is really same as my pile of straw, it must be, there is nothing else in the world'

asciilifeform: it was more interesting even, it was about how they do not even see it as a thing

asciilifeform: the one about how the monkeys never invented architecture in the sense of how-to-make-house-stand-up

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you recall your article about african huts ?

asciilifeform: and not rely on neigbouring boxes to drop your voltage, wtf

asciilifeform: but must use vregs.

asciilifeform: no.

asciilifeform: per box.

asciilifeform: it is called... regulated dc power supply

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sure as hell you can

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435838 << classical telco. but the batteries were IN PARALLEL ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435837 << student exercise - prove that the 10 (usa) or 20 (eu) pogo garland will necessarily explode if they all enter cpu halt mode. ☝︎

asciilifeform: this not only was not a problem, but arguably helped me to avoid becoming embroiled with various folks who were up to no good

asciilifeform: what is being hidden, and from whom? e.g., everyone i've worked, done business with, etc. since i had a www, knew about it

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435987 << would somebody explain this to me ☝︎

asciilifeform: !s mental rsa

asciilifeform: accurately.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435981 << i will not say that this is impossible, but i would actually like to watch somebody do it ☝︎

asciilifeform: ever heard of, e.g., 'legend', etc.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al : making up new name for yerself every morning is crummy tradecraft.

asciilifeform: (and when it doesn't, result has little to do with finding of fact and much to do with game-theoretical game of 'chicken')

asciilifeform: the 'prima facie' thing usually carries, afaik.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435975 << non-cryptographic signatures are really 99+% 'promise' and precious little protocol. ☝︎

asciilifeform: tlocelot !

asciilifeform: PeterL is an aztec ?!