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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've not actyually used a bank since i'm here.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone directly realises what epic self decapitation the dpr was for the usg.
assbot: Logged on 12-04-2015 03:14:45; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: can't speak for others, but i refuse to consider the leaking turd usable in any sense whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: st for the monitor screen was $8K (at least that was what I was told). My recollection was that the manufacturing cost of a Symbolics machine was over $40K. Hence, about one-third of the cost of a machine was the keyboard, mouse, and display. I told people within Symbolics to consider using a dumb display as the front-end (something like a Datapoint terminal). I can remember one employee telling me something like "if p
mircea_popescu: "(4) When I was on the front line, trying to sell Lispms, we had a major problem. I'd try to sell Lispms to friends and former associates that cost a minimum of $90K, and generally $105K out-the-door. They were typically given $120K to buy computers. This left them with a choice of purchasing 1 Symbolics machine or 3 Xerox Dolphins. They generally selected the 3 Dolphins. Our cost for the keyboard was $3,200 and our co
decimation: also I'm not sure that the rf band they are using is actually legal for that purpose
asciilifeform: decimation: can't say, i did not try to buy it
asciilifeform: did someone link to the ancient 'symbolics, death of heterogeneous engineering' essay ? and i didn't notice
decimation: asciilifeform: re: gotenna < yeah I don't get why phone is needed either. why not simple 4 line lcd with 'thumb keyboard'?
assbot: Logged on 12-04-2015 03:14:45; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: can't speak for others, but i refuse to consider the leaking turd usable in any sense whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-04-2015#1098014 << well, i hired (and paid, upfront) two different hosts. neither has managed to provisdion server yet. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-04-2015 03:07:18; felipelalli: mircea_popescu: I love this article: http://trilema.com/2014/guidance-there-is-no-such-thing-as-bitcoin-taint/ do you keep this opinion?
mircea_popescu: decimation in the endless words of george, "you will note that i am in the smaller office!"
asciilifeform: (ricochet modems could connect with one another without repeater, and i briefly searched if classical 'radiomodem' is still sold by anyone)
mircea_popescu: http://infosyncratic.nl/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/david-sengeh-xmas-2.jpg << you only hate her because miscegenation, i bet.
decimation: I've thought about a small mechanical generator that could be attached to a swaying tree
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have a largely complete design for this and 5 other similar items, will confess.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, speaking of the little toy : i wouldn't mind putting a few coins behind a project dedicating to actually creating an array of p2p relays operated "alegally" in the manner described (glued to peoplke's cars without their knowledge).
decimation: as I recall, it was 'first to market' - well before mobile phone data plans were reasonably available (for non-bezzle price)
asciilifeform: though the last time i walked by, sticker was - gone
asciilifeform: just like -someone- knows who owns that house down the street from where i sit
decimation: I wonder if some entity gobbled up those 'assets' and is preventing their removal
asciilifeform: decimation: where i live meters have gsm modems.
asciilifeform: there are a dozen just within range of where i sit now
decimation: asciilifeform: I've seen something similar to old 'ricochet' network: wireless meter reading nodes
asciilifeform: i will also add that we have an even odder curiosity here. an ancient, possibly first-of-its-kind wireless net called 'ricochet'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can more easily imagine a 'jobs program' where monkeys with triangulolocators climb walls and scrape by hand.
asciilifeform: futher in the 'vandal' theme, i will point out that it is not difficult to build a very cheap apparatus for climbing up walls with a few dozen grams' payload, quickly.
mircea_popescu: i recall someone telling me...
asciilifeform: if i had any reason to believe that these did not have magic-packet anal hole circuits, i'd be buying by the kilogram.
asciilifeform: i recall it was mentioned.
asciilifeform: i do not think there is a better film version of the ru 1990s that 'p'.
mircea_popescu: i think i'd read it lol.
decimation: I find it fascinating that a human can be invented from whole cloth, and then inserted into the political ladder
asciilifeform: decimation: aha. shortly after this i wondered wtf even to care.
decimation: as I recall moldbug once linked to some pretty convincing evidence re:ayers wrote obama's autobiography
mircea_popescu: hm... i guess in the context "color me" is a faux pas ?
asciilifeform: decimation: i saw ayers alive once - public talk. it was quite an experience.
mircea_popescu: one thing i don't think anyone can blame the whorish co-ed for, not getting involved with the bros.
asciilifeform: even i knew this.
mircea_popescu: in this sense, i'm a coder because i ocasionally edit html o.O
mircea_popescu: yeah, i suppose if by "programmer" you meant "web programmer"...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where i live, at least to the 'street computer shop' level of apprehension, a whore is an abject and usually physically revolting creature who fellates what may well be gorillas for a hit of 'crack'
asciilifeform: when i land on mars i would like to meet these !
asciilifeform: i am told that there are men who have sex for pay
asciilifeform: i've none
mircea_popescu: i suppose neither of you ever kept whores ?
asciilifeform: i imagine he found it uniquely galling
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine why ?
asciilifeform: (al schwartz, incidentally, was quite fascinated with elena c. and her 'chemistry' in much the same way i am)
mircea_popescu: i suspect the old woman was the sane of the two.
asciilifeform: aha. the question of whether elena actually thought that being a chemist is being what she was, and mr o - professor of law, i will leave to the shrinks
mircea_popescu: i prefer to refer to that other thing as kim-il-nigger. seems adequate.
assbot: Logged on 12-04-2015 02:52:11; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've not your experience nor your eloquence on the topic of MIT, but I do know they waste oodles of money via usg 'science', supply the meatrobots responsible for breaking everything, and glorify the breaking of everything under the auspices of 'patriotism'.
mircea_popescu: i thought houdini couldn't get it up.
asciilifeform: i walked right by, saw no more than the usual amount of stormtroopers.
mircea_popescu: tyvm. meanwhile, i can't fucking remember where the tread on X is. so what do i do ? i ask here. and someone remembers and links.
mircea_popescu: and that cause almost always is, "i can not believe how stupid i've been"
mircea_popescu: it may be that they wanted to forget for the reason you suspect, but i do not think so.
asciilifeform: i mean, i grasp that mircea_popescu is referring to cultural death.
mircea_popescu: and by "can read it" i mean, of course, "could have written it"
mircea_popescu: what i am saying is that preconceived notions must be shared, for the text to be readable. these preconceptions melted.
asciilifeform: i have copies of several groups day-by-day of own making.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fact is, there was a pretty useful and fairly complete snapshot in the ice. and now i look in the cryostat and find rotting gibblets and alive with flies.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am at this point convinced that google killed it deliberately.
mircea_popescu: btw, was http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-31450389 here ? i forget.
asciilifeform: i would observe that everyone presently in good favour of usg by virtue of their 'passport data' - skin, gonads, etc. - runs the risk of ending up weimar-jewed
mircea_popescu: seems only fare. i mean fire. i mean pharoh.
asciilifeform: i, for instance, happen to believe that soviet mathematics will not be equalled for the next 500 years.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-04-2015#1097931 << one of the brightest minds in an XX body i ever met had finished her thesis under romania's most inept "logician", cca 1988. the woman was not significantly harmed by a half decade's internship with that bootmaker in disguise. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2014 11:58:20; mircea_popescu: if i were black in the us i would be fucking worried for my children. being ~10% of the population and >50% of the public discourse is how the hasidim suddenly disappeared from history.
assbot: Logged on 12-04-2015 02:29:20; asciilifeform: but i presently believe that it is the -duty- of any literate man of science today to despise mit and everything it now stands for, just as, e.g., an honest historian or anthropologist must despise harvard.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: can't speak for others, but i refuse to consider the leaking turd usable in any sense whatsoever. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and aspires to a job to be obtained through an interview with hr. << i have never once found work through an 'hr'. this is not uncommon among my meatwot. (not a magical feat by any means at any rate.)
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: I love this article: http://trilema.com/2014/guidance-there-is-no-such-thing-as-bitcoin-taint/ do you keep this opinion? ☟︎
asciilifeform: before this, i only knew of mit at all from books.
asciilifeform: but enough of salt mines. i mention it because it was my first wake-up call that something happened to the mythical 'mecca' which i respected for 'having produced lisp machine and sicp'
asciilifeform: as you may know, i live nowhere near mit. there were two offices. one, in cambridge, contained these masturbators, where they played with (largely nonfunctional) robots all day. whereas ours did the - predominantly deadly boring - work which actually paid the bills.
ben_vulpes: i studied with many of the like. getting them to think outside of the box was not worth the time as there was no prerequisite dicksucking going along with it.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i labored a bottom-tier version of same. if that place was as it was, MIT must be even more so.
asciilifeform: i choose to place the fall of mit as the moment when sicp fell
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've not your experience nor your eloquence on the topic of MIT, but I do know they waste oodles of money via usg 'science', supply the meatrobots responsible for breaking everything, and glorify the breaking of everything under the auspices of 'patriotism'. ☟︎
decimation: "What worries me is that some of these findings that are found with the big data and the data miners, that people look at the findings and then only after the finding, they concoct a story or a theory, develop ex post some intuition, as to why this should work. And I think that's dangerous. I prefer to work on the basis of first principles: what is reasonable."
decimation: "So the sort of papers that are published in psychology, over 92% of them are, 'Oh, here's a hypothesis; I did an experiment; and I get support.' So that is a problem. Because it leads to people essentially data mining to find a result to find a result and then getting it published. "
mats: i didn't expect it, i sought them out
asciilifeform: mats: what i know is that i encountered the single largest number of talented folks with skills in weaponizing exploits at MIT << i find it peculiar that anyone would expect to encounter any concentration of such folks in the flesh, for the most part anywhere
whaack: to anyone who does not immediately apprehend the reason for my position, i invite a look into the 'mit press' catalogues for the last decade or so. << as was expressed in my conversation with mp, mit's press facade is different than its internals. Much like bitcoin
mats: sometimes i wonder if folks in here have spent too much time battling midgets and have forgotten what its like to fight a man.
mats: yes, thats why i mentioned it. as a word of caution about respecting the enemy.
asciilifeform: when i say 'meta-nsa' - again it does not meant that every bipedal amoebal 'success organism' drawing pay there is a brilliant master
mats: its not linked, but i did find it by querying the fragment http://wingolog.org/archives/2009/03/24/international-lisp-conference-day-two
asciilifeform: mats: i know more than a few grads that have gone on to accept offers with outfits like Palantir. << i imagine you know what takes place there.
assbot: Logged on 11-04-2015 08:35:04; gabriel_laddel: I've made little to no progress on the codebase recently short of cleaning it up and ensuring that if, for some reason I'm interrupted, that someone else will be able to pick up where I left off if necessary. The sources, coupled with http://gabriel-laddel.github.io/arsttep.html provide enough detail for one to know what I have in mind and why. http://gabriel-laddel.github.io/system.html provides an
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu:asciilifeform you gotta have a look at http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-04-2015#1097382 << gabriel_laddel has good summaries of things, but i must confess that i am not particularly interested in 'lispy unix' as i consider it coprophagic pizza. ☝︎
asciilifeform: but i presently believe that it is the -duty- of any literate man of science today to despise mit and everything it now stands for, just as, e.g., an honest historian or anthropologist must despise harvard. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and yes i wanted to probe ben_vulpes before saying all of this.
asciilifeform: to anyone who does not immediately apprehend the reason for my position, i invite a look into the 'mit press' catalogues for the last decade or so.
williamdunne: I don't store by GPG keys on Keybase...
felipelalli: williamdunne: "Oh, I was wondering the other day. What caused the removal of options from MPEX?" << I wonder the same.
williamdunne: Is the source for the WoT available? If I have some free time I'd like to take a crack at making it more readable