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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the difference between kernel-mediated closedown and crash is that there's better handling of buffers.
mircea_popescu: next the two meet him, they ask for a cigarette. which he gives them. so they ask for a light. rabbit is all like "sure, what'd you like, match, ligther ?"
mircea_popescu: so wolf and fox walk around the forest and they see a rabbit. fox : "let's beat the shit out of this loser" wolf : "we need a reason..." fox : "we'll ask him where's his beret... and if he has none, we beat the shit out of him!"
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone know the joke with the rabbit and the bear ? the one with the beret
mircea_popescu: trophy slut of old man who died, had kid, claimed inheritance.
mircea_popescu: recall the case of that woman that had a child with the dead ?
mircea_popescu: wasn't there some guy with a lucrative eth contract that lost his key ?
mircea_popescu: in general, unspecified, in particular cases, as agreed with the previously living.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i've been working on that thing for two days in 30 second installments in between nutty bitcoin shit that shouldn't happen anyway.
mircea_popescu: trinque doesn't like that there's multiples ? or what did i do wrong ?
mircea_popescu: in other news at 4:42 - all money systems significantly more broken than previously realised.
mircea_popescu: anyone writing up that irs story for qntra ? juices flowing every which way lol
mircea_popescu: spiders in 1st case you handle on a case by case basis. organized spider hive, you bring out a flamethrowing tank and sear it.
mircea_popescu: there's a significant difference between "this cave is infested with spiders" and "this cave is home to a spider queen the size of a camper van". at least to my eyes.
mircea_popescu: because you can't measure all things at the same time, basically.
mircea_popescu: PeterL that's an anachronistic argument. merely because they included it once B, you infer that they would have included it wherher B or non-B. this both fails tgo explain all the points prior to B that didn't include it (standard lifetime of mempool tx is about half the interval contemplated here) and the fact that you're drawing in the conclusion in the presumptions.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure you could live with it. but that's a different question.
mircea_popescu: i don't want a fucking big-brother-bitcoin-from-china-san to pray to.
mircea_popescu: same ocean will sink same boat every time and float same boat every time.
mircea_popescu: which, youj know... also many people make a living on.
mircea_popescu: and trivially can be shown to map exactly on paypal-usd.
mircea_popescu: that's tghe problem here. something wasn't good for an entire week that suddenly became good. this selective-bitcoin is in no sense bitcoin,
☟︎ mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-03-2016#1420457 << this is specifically NOT the assumption. bitcoin being a working protocol however DOES mean that you should be able to assume that if a transaction is rejected, or not included, or delayed, or in any way treated or not treated it is solely on the basis of data COMPLETELY contained in that transaction.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: and now, if teh esteemed peerage may excuse me for a bit, i really gotta eat and make this smg report. so bbs.
mircea_popescu: well, maybe not first in line, but anyway. somewhere in that line.
mircea_popescu: but i'm first in line to say i'd much prefer a bitcoin protocol that was actually specified, and actually worked.
mircea_popescu: jurov> it's business is much closer to this goal than bitbet << the argument, while in itself respectable, very much sadly not how things work. the jew on a ship, should the ship catch fire, will be a fireman whether he signed up for voyage as jew or as fireman.
mircea_popescu: the problem with broken things is exactly that - they "work" for you until they don't. at which point...
mircea_popescu: jurov> let me at least know im funding the war? << i'm sorry, you thought bitcoin WORKED ?
mircea_popescu: jurov companies fold all the time. this is a thing. if in the course of their business they fail to make money, they'll lose exactly as much money as they lost.
mircea_popescu: or whatever, give away a grand to the general public so that buffet can pretend like there are no berkshire shorts. or other stuff.
mircea_popescu: you know how it sometimes happens that a platoon gets sent on a random patrol, ends up surprising a moving contingent of enemy, a flurry of radioing and reinforcing and whatnot happens and suddenly the front is in a new place ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: that's my priviledge. i'm the one actually doing things, there.
mircea_popescu: consider it a sort of coke machine for miner rigs. inasmuch as you do exactly what they'd have done, you can keep it. else - reorg.
mircea_popescu: and you're a poopynose!! ha-HA!!! calling names is how you solve problems you don't wish to consider! YAY KINDERGARTEN
mircea_popescu: other than that, obviously whenever something blows up everyone wishes to not have to be in the way. sure.
mircea_popescu: i can appreciate gut feel, but it's no sort of argument as to anything.
mircea_popescu: . you wish to contradict numeric results, fine, but show your own calculations in doing so.
mircea_popescu: jurov looky, this thing whereby in reaction to a "this guy is accused of having killed that guy and here's the smoking gun" you come up with a "hey, i fired a gun once, and the smoke went so and so" is a waste of time. you wish to construct an alternate theory, please, by all means, i would wish to hear it. but you must take ALL the points, and show that your path crossing them is cheaper than the one detailed on qntra
mircea_popescu: i dunno what code you read or what you did when, but good for you!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he asked about it, i saw no problem republishing.
mircea_popescu: this is what it does for its living : tries to extract value out of the greatly economically valuable bitcoin thing.
mircea_popescu: lmao. why the fuck would you, or anyone else, expect me to spend my own money to resolve bitbet's problems ? what is this company, a charity conduit ?
mircea_popescu: i am not in the slightest proposing this. i am saying however that the toilet may be part of the solution, but can't be THE solution.
mircea_popescu: so... no. you can't solve the problem of fiat through technological means, be they bitcoin or anything else. the same people that abandoned the fiat to "mysterious entity" will just as readily abandon bitcoin, and their own asshole.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've been thinking about it, but i don't think this is actually resolvable. as it happens - the "magically working network - we don't know how it works" thing is much more appealing to the average joe than you know, "this is my node. i will defend it with my life". what life, are you kidding, got sitcoms to watch and shit.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: did you get the part where tx2 is really tx1 and was sent 8 days prior to what you insanely call tx1 ?
mircea_popescu: PeterL looky, i'm not going to carry on this conversation. i get it, you wish to be dense and stonewall. fine, but stop derping at me about it.
mircea_popescu: so that the problem can be fully exposed, in detailed, solid fact, so as to be handwaved by people.
mircea_popescu: or at any rate something-like-it. of the vast array of various nonsense readily available in ample stores on this networked currency of the future.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yes, by the time the 4th txn trying to pay out bitbet vanished without a trace, i was sort-of expecting it.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: whether i am surprised or not is not included in this discussion. i don't recall saying i was surprised, nor does over-the-lan telepathy historically work. moreover, my own state is deeply irrelevant : the problem is there, and it's grinning at you.