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nubbins`: put another way, nothing i say will make alf walk away
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i just don't credit that "resulted".
mircea_popescu: but i still think it's at best wrong to imagine "the discussion did it"
nubbins`: one day, in the distant future, i'll say something to alf and it'll make all what i have previously said fall into place
mircea_popescu: which is what i was talking about throughout.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski if someone's ready to i dunno, buy a new car, then he has specific questions which a forum might answer, and he's buying cart with our without forum. so forum didn't DO anything.
mircea_popescu: adlai no, i'm aware of teh quote.
mircea_popescu: hey, i used to write great novels, but then i got promoted and now im doing 6 teasy metaphores an hour!
mircea_popescu: so listen, i was once with like half a dozen teensy chicks by the side of a pool, and some were in the water and some were on the chairs.
nubbins`: i reply "take your tongue out of his ass" and people think i'm being all flippant.
nubbins`: question was "how do i stop giving rimjob to the man"
nubbins`: you may be thinking of the time where i went on about how little money i need to make in order to get by
mircea_popescu: nubbins` honestly i thought you were kinda dumb for the entire interval, but in a reserved sort of way.
nubbins`: <+nubbins`> now, at this point, i'd like to take the opportunity to inquire as to what the general consensus is, among those present, regarding my intelligence, wisdom, and overall sensibility
nubbins`: $190 death-pledge and i chose $6k/yr over $61k/yr
nubbins`: adlai what can you do that i can't?
nubbins`: now, at this point, i'd like to take the opportunity to inquire as to what the general consensus is, among those present, regarding my intelligence, wisdom, and overall sensibility
mircea_popescu: im not sure i see why.
nubbins`: precisely six months after this promotion, i tendered my resignation
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wasn't expecting an answer. hence answer 'not enough lsd'
nubbins`: so in august 2012, i was promoted from "programmer/analyst" to "senior programmer/analyst"
asciilifeform: did i misunderstand the implication
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: his point, so far as i can surmise, is 'be theoretical physicist'
nubbins`: i'd also advance the opinion that one does not know quite how much one can change until one is forced to do so. while this may seem incredibly foolhardy (so much so that most people never try it), walking away with a zippo tossed over shoulder is the only way to find out.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the long-term question is 'can i do something with it and continue to eat.' if fiat world turns sufficiently hostile, the answer, simply based on my pre-existing work here, may be a 'no.'
asciilifeform: i'd like to see the logical end for it
asciilifeform: or should i requalify as printing press mechanic, or what
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i'd like to hear honest take from you, on this matter. would you say that the 20 years i spent learning to do what i do, since was a boy, a waste, like career of a bureaucrat? or does serenissima world have some use for the type of thing that i do.
nubbins`: and i'd advance that water does not dissolve it
nubbins`: asciilifeform if i can navigate the dark markets, so can you!
asciilifeform: nor am i entirely certain that i'm not one of the folks glued together
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i haven't even envisioned solution to the problem of escaping the event horizon of the black hole resulting from the idiot's implosion
mircea_popescu: i recall this point where some derpy agent swore before the court he used excel spreadsheets to rape a db
mircea_popescu: i think they're all essentially that in the end.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: in mircea_popescu's world, as i understand, every soldier is naked but for his parachute, and ought to take what he needs from the locals
asciilifeform: but even from the standpoint of 'i only wish to destroy the lizards' it does not make sense to disperse into atomized diversantes
asciilifeform: i can see the perspective that 'two or more #b-a folks in a room is a target' but by that logic we ought not have conferences, no ?
asciilifeform: i must disagree with the notion that defending a spot of geography, small and purposeful, is inescapably retarded.
mircea_popescu: i mean i guess, if one feels so entertained.
adlai: oh, i'm pretty sure that trench chatter was blowing gaping holes in patriotism for longer than trenches have been cool
mircea_popescu: just how stupid am i supposed to be ?
mircea_popescu: i personally can't quite see how i'd manage to motivate myself to participate in yet another "we good they bad fight for great justic!!1" conflict.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not entirely sold on this being so
mircea_popescu: no wait, make a full sentence, i have no idea what you're saying.
mats: i didn't deny that there are showmen, or even hordes of them, there
mircea_popescu: mats but i thought you said ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... looky here, I have no doubt i could probably pass some "new bitcoin country" real estate scam or other. i do not wish to. this, deliberately, and upon consideration, and against what random idiot may interpret as my patrimonial interest. << leads into the mega-question - what is the opposite of a real estate scam? or is this like the maxwellian hypothetical 'monopole magnet', where you have a mystery alien
nubbins`: still not sure i can pinpoint it... but have you ever met someone for whom photographs exist outside of time and space?
nubbins`: i came across this website while trying to figure out why Ploshay's appearance is somewhat unsettling to me
nubbins`: "i always carry an empty cup, just in case"
mircea_popescu: low level scamming, "i'ma call this empty jar MONEY and wait for idiots to deposit".
nubbins`: i had to make sure i wasn't on womensguitarassociation.com
nubbins`: turns out i guess she can play it, but dat bio
nubbins`: i clicked on that one so i could chuckle about why she's randomly holding a guitar
nubbins`: mircea_popescu:i want to reconsider that about as much as windows user wants to compile from source. <<< i recall hearty lels when whatever chunk of windows source code came out
mats: 6:50:29 <+mircea_popescu> since mats brought it up : yeah, currently people can't audit bitbet's reserves. this is unfortunate, but i'm not going to do anything about it. << i was going a bit crazy auditing the code, thought id bungled it somehow
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 04:06:20; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell chetty i'd be much obliged if you could procure me a phone and a sim - the cheapest that makes and receives calls will be more than adequate
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100530 << on which line, trinque you'd seriously shoot a burglar ? and i don't mean shoot them in the head, just, one to the kneecap for good measure. seems to me woefully excessive. the... only time i was in a situation of that nature the dudes beat the shit out of the guy and i thought it was excessive even for the time and place. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: since mats brought it up : yeah, currently people can't audit bitbet's reserves. this is unfortunate, but i'm not going to do anything about it.
mircea_popescu: yes, i may consider young females for education, but that is neither here nor there. i did that before bitcoin, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: i am simply not interested in that sort of centralisation. i also think it's stupid, and self-defeating, and in no way different from you know, making gossipd on windows vista.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100504 << looky here, I have no doubt i could probably pass some "new bitcoin country" real estate scam or other. i do not wish to. this, deliberately, and upon consideration, and against what random idiot may interpret as my patrimonial interest. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but i must say he's like the cutest one to date.
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 03:37:34; felipelalli: decimation: you're right. But would be so cool and useful if I really could use WoT to things in day to day and not only in dreams.
mircea_popescu: i like the way this guy selects tasks for himself.
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 03:29:48; felipelalli: trinque: I know that. I am trying to convince the Brazilian community move to here, but it is being hard. The main community is still on Facebook.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100429 << quite. i suppose the trust <=> energy analogy is pretty good. trust is also in a very similar relation to sound money, ie, sure "people" (subhumans, really) can "create trust out of nothing". this is about as relevant to actual trust as freshly printed usd are to money. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:45:01; williamdunne: I'm not saying its a good idea, I just think its interesting as an idea
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, this has become the surogate closure for the internet horde, "o no, here is his real name". mmmkay...
mircea_popescu: i see subsets of dozens of otherwise well connected nodes not knowing of txn back and forth
mircea_popescu: ah nm. i misread "next diff" block lol
mircea_popescu: i see 352078 on some systems
mircea_popescu: i want to reconsider that about as much as windows user wants to compile from source.
mircea_popescu: then i'd throw up, likely, because fucking hell now i have to reconsider the "no universal human quality" pillar of thought.
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:25:49; asciilifeform: sadly, i suspect that even a thousand threads like this one will not suffice in hammering the point home to the thickest
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100361 << i would be really scared if one day i woke up in a world where "everyone" understood anything. even the most minute, basic point. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2015#1100337 << my face dropped when i read some piece of his (a year or two before becoming a speaking head for the govt) when he was going "oh, i lost my original pgp key long ago, it's too hard to use hurr durr" ☝︎
williamdunne: Sure, and I think he discovered that from the conversation
williamdunne: While I understand the point you're trying to make, I don't think that was the answer he was looking for
mircea_popescu: it can make all the passports it wants, ima credit someone on the basis of that as much as i'd credit someone presenting a reader's digest letter.
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:15:38; felipelalli: asciilifeform: thank you, good point, but it could be offset with the WoT where the ability to analyze a real document would be taken into account. williamdunne thank you! Nice to hear that! I was thinking about it for days! Do you know who are working on similar standard?
mircea_popescu: and yes, sucks for the remnant of teh middle class, obviously. which, i suppose, is a good summary of a large chunk of "what to do" discussions here.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/04/judge-preet-bhararas-brinkmanship-endangers-fair-trials/ << i lold.
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:00:37; asciilifeform: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099925 << do i need to explain what the resurrection of 'key escrow' idiocy from '90s (clinton's! to go right along with the new clinton!) means from the meta-nsa school of thought? or is it already obvious to aficionados
pete_dushenski: which, if he's the mule of socialism, and of the braindamaged jewry extant after that most abysmal intellectual 'cleansing', i can sorta see it
asciilifeform to pet: 'if i go to the bottom of the sea, push this button...'
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell chetty no obligation though, i'm still bringing your seaweed
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell chetty i'd be much obliged if you could procure me a phone and a sim - the cheapest that makes and receives calls will be more than adequate ☟︎
asciilifeform: the fella i'm renting from now, lives on opposite end of continent, and never comes here. he will only bill for holes etc. if next tenant complains about them
ben_vulpes: chetty: can i get a favor from you in exchange?
decimation: asciilifeform: well I would give the cop credit, at least he knocked on door and said something
asciilifeform: just as i will not undertake to build a space suit.
asciilifeform: i cannot personally jump with that particular parachute from any kind of meaningful height
asciilifeform: incidentally, now is the time when i say, to interested readers, that i do not presently consider myself qualified to build a bitcoin 'wallet.' not because i do not understand how they must work at least as well as anyone else - but because of the 'skin in the game' problem.
ben_vulpes: <trinque> asciilifeform: I was utterly mindfucked for the majority of the time I first spent here << heh i remember this
williamdunne: Yes I know
asciilifeform: williamdunne: in case this was not clear - i do not design or build bitcoin wallets.
williamdunne: Oh sure, I'm definitely looking forward to your product - but also like paper wallets
asciilifeform: when using serious crypto, i employ only rng constructed personally
asciilifeform: i neither expect a 'fix', nor give a damn