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mircea_popescu: hm ?
mircea_popescu: not that the philipinos won't be coming out of the underbrush to push the unexpected "just as good" verbiage, or w/e.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose it's absolutely obvious and entirely uncontroversial that a bitcoin with cartel-mining is entirely uninteresting to everyone.
mircea_popescu: if it's of interest or not it is their call to make neh ?
mircea_popescu: well yeah.
mircea_popescu: to random microshit investor, bitcoin is the same as flooz.
mircea_popescu: to you.
mircea_popescu: be specific.
mircea_popescu: if gates switches to euros, what would he say to microshit shareholders ?
mircea_popescu: why do you suppose anything has to be said in particular ? i dun follow.
mircea_popescu: something like that.
mircea_popescu: mod6 because more or less then, it'll be a case of "well... what does everyone use ?"
mircea_popescu: mod6 your call to make, together with ben_vulpes i guess - the point remains, if no trb offering in july, no trb offering in july.
mircea_popescu: in fact, the lot of them getting burned off is at least as valuable as bricking the idiot chinese miner rigs.
mircea_popescu: i'd honestly much prefer the situation where "evangelism" never happened.
mircea_popescu: JuliaTourianski_ nobody wants "the cred" of imbecile redditars & all.
mircea_popescu: "well designed" does not happeb by fiat.
mircea_popescu: now imagine what other incredibly dumb shit they imagine is a good idea for crying out loud.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo imagine someone somewhere thinking this is a good idea.
mircea_popescu: stop focusing on teh irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: JuliaTourianski_ no, they went against the consensus. what's core ?
mircea_popescu: pity they already did.
mircea_popescu: hopefully some hicks from missouri capture you and i can hear all about the ozarks supremacy for a while.
mircea_popescu: have you noticed this ?
mircea_popescu: you and your twin anal and usg preoccupations.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btc cartel is a bunch of dudes with some technical ability and no clue generally.
mircea_popescu: after the unintentional hardfork over the imbecillic high-s thing, this was perhaps inevitable. what are they do to ?
mircea_popescu: and sure, you can blame the miners. the problem is - the design sort-of forced this endgame upon them. i doubt most of the chinese even understand ~what went wrong~, in the very faint general, letalone in this specific ~what we did wrong~. by the chinese bible they were being very reasonable and i just don't understand how the world works. ach ach my dear fellow mp.
mircea_popescu: if whatever you're doing is threatened by a government, you're either very stupid or very lazy.
mircea_popescu: printing press does no such thing. never did.
mircea_popescu: however, if it is going to be an altcoin, as in, no continuity, then it doesn't matter so much if tomorrow or yest or whenever.
mircea_popescu: benefits from all the marketing bitcoin did for it, without having to pay (in the shape of entrenched idiots of all stripes)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (because there is no satisfactory way of bootstrapping any alt.) << in principle a ~WELL DESIGNED~ alt with a ~WELL CHOSEN~ pow would work quite well.
mircea_popescu: somethinglikethat.
mircea_popescu: anyway, ftr, re ben_vulpes link (not that i've read it or intend to read random derpage from nobodies on topics) - years ago protecting miner investment made sense as a topic.
mircea_popescu: this trivially reduces to "usable computer can not be built". which is it.
mircea_popescu: why not ?
mircea_popescu: what ?
mircea_popescu: as long as "i did nothing wrong" at each successive point, you'll be a happy dead man.
mircea_popescu: stop worring about what things mean and what may come and so forth, focus on doing the right thing at each juncture i say.
mircea_popescu: and yeah, sure, perhaps the market's not rational enough, and yeah, sure, maybe fed prints more to buy bitcoin. whatevs.
mircea_popescu: the market reaction is built out of divestment.
mircea_popescu: all through the past 7 years the whole spiel was "[these known vulnerabilities] but the miners would never dare do that because of market reaction". what exactly did you imagine that reaction is built out of ? reddit derping ?
mircea_popescu: again with the effects talk. looky : what'd you have me do, not say anything ?
mircea_popescu: ipso definitio unsound money.
mircea_popescu: but yes, the enemies of sound money are certainly served by bitcoin miner cartelization. doh.
mircea_popescu: so it's not that simple.
mircea_popescu: you hafta understand mp was rich and powerful long before bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: yea well.
mircea_popescu: so many wasted lives, huh.
mircea_popescu: not with the wanna-be ceos and assorted "captains of industry" ; not with the wanna-be coders and assorted "power rangers" ; not with the wanna-be journos and assorted redditards ; not with the wanna-be sikrit agents and assorted nsa tools. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ironically, it had absolutely nothing to do with all the derps, in the end.
mircea_popescu: a sort of puberty i guess.
mircea_popescu: anwyay, yes, bitcoin is traversing perhaps the first true crisis since its founding, between now and the halving.
mircea_popescu: i'll click later
mircea_popescu: you mean http://trilema.com/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol ?
mircea_popescu: huh ?
mircea_popescu: but mostly to add some nudity.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422905 << actually i'd go to that one. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you did so did i.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422900 << let's not flatter ourselves. the odds of mp showing up to "add a voice" to $randomitem are ~nil. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422884 << well, the privacy risks aren't exactly dubious in that i don't atm see how ring signatures would prevent miner cartel from attacking bitbet. except, of course, if predicated on "miners are lazy and dumb". which is true - until they aren't. much like ants are lazy and dumb, until they get into the fridge, at which point they'll dumbly&lazily never want to leave. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422881 << so what becomes of the outputs then. blacklisted 4evar ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this has nothing to do with math, even. it's a given.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422868 << you realise that provability and anonimity are in this exact sense contrary desires, you will necessarily be stuck with something like this if you want to at the same time both. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422820 << well... ideally does not want. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422803 << yeah, but think abotu the reason the name was sold in the first place. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: large part of the promise and value of bitcoin is exactly this chickenizing of banking.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422789 << if this is true, it really takes bitcoin outside of this whole "be your own bank" mental space ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422780 "catastrophically exploded internal organs". ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but iirc we did that in the logs.
mircea_popescu: there's also the case of the retarded romanian workers who stuck a compressed air outlet in the woman's vagina for lulz, ended up with a fatality. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i myself am persuaded that's a very accurate model of how "force air in oral cavity" would work.
mircea_popescu: that's the one. penn state, looks like 20 eyars ago ?
mircea_popescu: word, he found it.
mircea_popescu: i see it.
mircea_popescu: hm. i recall the exact quote. derp was "and then i felt like i was pushing extra hard..."
mircea_popescu: ;;google "i remember pushing extra hard" weightlifter anal
mircea_popescu: was a thing.
mircea_popescu: you recall the story of that weioghlifter who butt-exploded shattering shit and blood all over ?
mircea_popescu: "not THAt inch, THIs inch!"
mircea_popescu: this is a trained surgeon that'd so distinguish ?
mircea_popescu: how would you distinguish "peritoneal burst" from this ?
mircea_popescu: quite. asshole not designed or intended to hold pressure in that way.
mircea_popescu: air has to go somewhere.
mircea_popescu: quite.
mircea_popescu: by and large, quite happy with hitler. at least he's not english. then degaulle came up with a piously fraudulent reinterpretation of the early 40s
mircea_popescu: well for that matter - france.
mircea_popescu: loved the jew burning.
mircea_popescu: that tilt is not even what anglo sources usually like to pretend.
mircea_popescu: myeah
mircea_popescu: kinda ironic how hitler never realised poland/ukraina/etc actually liked him a lot more than saxony.
mircea_popescu: nobody asked ukrs if they wanted to fight "the facscist invader" etc.
mircea_popescu: eh, get out of here. the last enslaving went the other way, back in stalin's day.
mircea_popescu: if only there were enslaving.
mircea_popescu: enslaving my butt.
mircea_popescu: similarly there
mircea_popescu: also - clothing.
mircea_popescu: introduced xtianity, for instance.
mircea_popescu: depends on your definition thereof.