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trinque: I believe the term Adlai is looking for is cartel
Pierre_Rochard: well I’m a gaullist, I tend to respect sovereignties as a matter of realpolitik
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109656 << once the commissioner duly asks for and receives his commision here, i'm all for it too. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 18:49:21; Pierre_Rochard: I think it’s an issue today if we take into account NPV calculations - if gavincoin has zero future fee revenue, that has an immediate effect on the expected return of mining over the long run. Not sure that it would move the needle on today’s asic capex
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109646 << i don't think so. it has an effect on its relevancy for mining, not on mining itself. ☝︎
chetty: well thats how it reads to me, but I not lawyer :P
davout: i keep feeling like "hey, i should take my contacts off, they're getting dry", except there are none to take out
davout: i have like 4 different ones
mircea_popescu: i thought you had to drip-refill them every hour.
trinque: davout | trinque: i'm not getting dragged into "where should application logic live" debates :-) << can be quite enjoyable as long as one's not personally attached to the outcome
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 19:39:31; funkenstein_: thanks davout, anyway I should keep better notes but I was starting here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1033396.0;all
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 17:03:46; danielpbarron: i had to look that word up. seems to mean "warehouse keeper"
davout: trinque: i'm not getting dragged into "where should application logic live" debates :-)
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 16:47:53; pete_dushenski: williamdunne: not at all. and nor do i. just that the context has never and will never be evenly distributed. so no averages. so no predictions. no 'over-represented'
trinque: I agree with that.
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 16:16:52; williamdunne: I suppose the "cringe" is about how brazen it was
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 16:12:23; mats: i started buying AMZN after it became clear they had intentions of becoming a USG contractor
trinque: Pierre_Rochard: indeed, I've done it to myself
trinque: davout | well, you, just pushing that to the extreme to show that, even though i hardly ever use it, this unstructured nosql approach sometimes is useful, and isn't *inherently* evil like you seem to imply << there is no such thing as unstructured data, only a question of how rigorously structured it is, and what is used to enforce that.
funkenstein_: thanks davout, anyway I should keep better notes but I was starting here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1033396.0;all ☟︎
davout: funkenstein_: not sure what exactly is implied, so i'll refrain from commenting further
davout: funkenstein_: dunno, if i'm asked i'm all for canonical txids
ben_vulpes: (i was just thanked by someone who plugged into the same outlet as me. wtf.)
ben_vulpes: mhm, i see it.
ben_vulpes: (entirely aside, in a fevered moment of sleeplessness on the plane from bsas i looked into ripping out the nonstandard transaction relay blocking stuff)
funkenstein_: as i see it these channels will require private TXs, that is given directly to miners, to avoid malleability issues
ben_vulpes: i was always under the impression that there was no single hawala network.
ben_vulpes: i thought i was using it correctly
williamdunne: jurov: I designed a similar-ish system based on a network of brokerages
williamdunne: danielpbarron: I'm not suggesting that bitcoin replaces SWIFT just to be clear.. I just meant because it covers giga+ payments
williamdunne: funkenstein_: Pretty much. I disagree with Gavin because it essentially makes the blocks infinitely large, but I disagree with some people here because 7tx/s doesn't even cover SWIFT payments
funkenstein_: i think the point is more people can use bitcoin at any block size.
williamdunne: Adlai: We're in agreement there, I'm not suggesting that we're ever to put ourselves in a position where blocks are huge and no-one is paying. I'm just suggesting that 1mb is no way near enough for bitcoin to be bigger than it is today
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: the people i want using bitcoin take one look at the source and run screaming, as they should ☟︎
Adlai: williamdunne: and i would like to see the people who _use_ bitcoin paying for its security, rather than the people who hold it
williamdunne: ben_vulpes: I know you disagree, but I personally would like to see more people/companies/whatevers using bitcoin
Adlai: oh i know how we can turn reddit against gavincoin... the blocksize limit is good for changetip!
Pierre_Rochard: williamdunne: I agree, demand destruction is part of revenue maximization, pushes the hoi polloi onto off-chain alternatives
williamdunne: I'm not promoting Gavin's proposal, as it is definitely stupid
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 18:51:37; Adlai: let's say that i'm equally worried about gavincoin and the bitlicense
Adlai: let's say that i'm equally worried about gavincoin and the bitlicense ☟︎
Pierre_Rochard: I think it’s an issue today if we take into account NPV calculations - if gavincoin has zero future fee revenue, that has an immediate effect on the expected return of mining over the long run. Not sure that it would move the needle on today’s asic capex ☟︎
funkenstein_: hi nubbins, i am guessing edk2000
mike_c: yes, kako dumps the DB daily and I suck it up.
nubbins`: hm can i see all my rates?
nubbins`: and i have explicitly not been notified of any infringement activity
asciilifeform: nubbins`: this is not the first time i recall seeing pgp 'sprayed on for flavour'
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: i heard about these being sent out. didn't know they came pgp-signed!
danielpbarron: i had to look that word up. seems to mean "warehouse keeper" ☟︎
nubbins`: SOOOOO guess i'm gonna go ahead and ignore
assbot: Economic Fallacies and the Block Size Limit, part 1: Scarcity - B I T C O I N I S M ... ( http://bit.ly/1JCjVKa )
pete_dushenski: williamdunne: not at all. and nor do i. just that the context has never and will never be evenly distributed. so no averages. so no predictions. no 'over-represented' ☟︎
williamdunne: pete_dushenski: I'm not suggesting I have any issue with it, if thats what you mean
BingoBoingo: First adult Joo I met IRL drove choo choo trains
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Pierre_Rochard: also, traders getting blamed for poorly designed “market” mechanisms… I liken it to the stanford prison experiment - what exactly were you expecting?
williamdunne: I suppose the "cringe" is about how brazen it was ☟︎
mats: i started buying AMZN after it became clear they had intentions of becoming a USG contractor ☟︎
funkenstein_: i should take that back, I have no clue who the relevant market makers are here
funkenstein_: people love the unverifiable numbers they reported i guess
williamdunne: If that happens I'll go for it, retroactively though. It'd be an inconvenience at most
Pierre_Rochard: williamdunne: I had to get one when my home IP address started getting DDOSed
mike_c: yeah, I got to get back to it.
pete_dushenski: sea you see wasn't bad at all, i quite liked that line
pete_dushenski: in any event, i was reasonably pleased with the result.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski and i resent trackbacks ten minutes ago or os.
mircea_popescu: i think the applicable label is "socialite"
BingoBoingo: I'm just surprised at the outrage over calling a woman who traded sex for advantage an applicable label
mircea_popescu: i'd be seriously insulted if i actually were to take the us seriously.
mircea_popescu: well if they make it so it can also be accessed without a card, i'm probably getting an infinity of them.
gribble: artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 15 hours, 45 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <artifexd> I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
mike_c: yeah. for the main table (7500 users), I'll make a separate page with the whole list.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: yes, I'll add JS sorting to the tables that fit on a page.
williamdunne: Then again, thats kinda hypocritical because I treat my own aspirations with that mentality
williamdunne: "I can do anything if I put my mind to it"
williamdunne: Thats a great analogy. I like that.
williamdunne: I still don;t understand who the hell would launch that from inside the US? Like srsly. Its not even opsec at this point, its just about not being goddam mentally handicapped
gribble: justusranvier was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 28 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 57 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <justusranvier> On the plus side, this arrangement means I can run Skype in a virtualized sandbox that's far away from my real desktop
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i got to it meanwjilr
pete_dushenski: i know for a fact that you linked to http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/30/how-to-become-a-good-poker-player-translated/
pete_dushenski: i've received the last few from qntra, but missed a few before that..
pete_dushenski: well trackbacks, but i know what you mean. the things are borked
mircea_popescu: i can, this isn't.
pete_dushenski: flash... i get
pete_dushenski: lol you dun understand how sad i was when i first scanned the logs for the post i published early early this morning/late last night... and it wasn't there
williamdunne: I'll be happy to fix it if it doesn't
mircea_popescu: what can i tell ya.
williamdunne: Maybe I'm just being unfair
mircea_popescu: what i imagine is the case is - nano was planning to make an upgraded gribble for what, coupla years now. he's probably thinking to have it done in one piece.
williamdunne: Yeah I understand why it was done - not criticizing it at all
williamdunne: Something about downtime and a vulnerability is what I read on btcalpha but not much detail as to exactly what
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I have no intention of slowing down
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: Yeah, I originally quit using them because I could never connect
williamdunne: I'll be on that list someday :'(
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: It used to be okay, I wouldn't want to use it now but did its job fine
jurov: BingoBoingo: if you don't mind server knowing your addresses, then it's fine. otherwise, i agree
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: I really don't see how people could use electrum without their own node/server (hug-e pain)
williamdunne: Thats what most of them do anyway, no? i.e in Electrum
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I need to read up on it first before commenting
BingoBoingo: I really fail to see much difference between the pruning nodes and the pseudo-nodes