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Pierre_Rochard: williamdunne: had a similar head against wall bug yesterday, in pgsql: to_timestamp(‘2014-2’, ‘YYYY-Q’), doesn’t work because the docs clearly state “quarter (ignored by to_date and to_timestamp)” but it was three hours of desperate refactoring before I actually read them. ☟︎
Naphex: anyway. i'm off. gn
Naphex: having a annonymous ip is dandy. but no way anywhere near as enough. you still have to implement most of the stuff i said above especially the filtering part
trinque: Naphex: I currently cannot; it would first require being able to model the whole system in my head at once
trinque: I can admire a survivor ingenuity, crafting spears from bamboo and all that
Naphex: i see now that the term secure was the problem. how about hardened?
williamdunne: I just spent 30 minutes trying to work out why the hell my DB connection wasn't working. I was editing the wrong fucking config file.
Naphex: dude, i was giving my 2 cents on what people can do to harden up
trinque: I personally do not claim to have the answer, or I'd be typing from it
Naphex: oh, i tought you hated it
pete_dushenski: i'm such a rhymer.
menahem: If I can trust my WoT until my time is done,
menahem: "If I can keep it together when all and everyone
menahem: well, I read your new poem
pete_dushenski: lol what else am i good for ?
pete_dushenski: well... i'm sure you do!
menahem: pete_dushenski maintenance contracts - no good ? i love selling them. :)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform i seem to recall '$1mn' being tossed around about 10 years ago
asciilifeform: item in the chamber was, i think, a dragonfly
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell menahem re: http://chedr.ca/2015/04/your-emotions-are-irrelevant-and-youve-missed-the-point/ << 1. dunno why i didn't see the trackbacks from this... 2. kinda hard to read with all the >>>>s 3. a blogger is you!
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110941 << interestingly, i asked about the cost. was told something like '$1m for the old style, 2.5 for the new generation.' fella said this with straight face, too, as if there were nothing remarkable about this factoid. ☝︎☟︎
williamdunne: Ideal, well I can definitely get that done, not a big job. I'll see if there is any standardized way to get RSS to provide a full history
williamdunne: Thanks, thought I'd start young
Naphex: see i don't have to care
gabriel_laddel: and perhaps I'll tell them to stfu and read?
Naphex: gabriel_laddel: maybe other people want to know too, i will check the link
pete_dushenski: williamdunne i'd appreciate this service and i'm sure i'm not alone
williamdunne: pete_dushenski: I'll do that tomorrow/Monday
asciilifeform: i mention it because i can imagine a world where such clocks are considered not only acceptable, but 'state of the art' and 'best practice' ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that clock i bought from the street spammer works about as well as ought to be expected. sometimes stops for 2,3,4,5+ hours - then runs... then, again...
asciilifeform: decimation: kakobrekla linked to a farm which takes orders even now, but i don't have the url handy
decimation: but I haven't seen it become mainstream
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 21:39:55; trinque: what I'd love to see someday is a DC with no virtualization, just tinier boxes
decimation: actually I wonder how many folks use an old dell/hp server hosted at home on their cable modem
ben_vulpes: i've only ever racked 1us
ben_vulpes: usually i bolt them on directly, but i'm a barbarian and haven't actually derped much with physical servers.
decimation: I'm not against putting things on bare metal, just that blades lock you into a generally shitty 'blade-crate' vendor
trinque: I'd have a use for that
trinque: decimation: yeah, the idea would be to replace tiny VMs I think
asciilifeform: but i think we did this one here. nobody, apparently, reads logs
Naphex: and really, i hate the way they look
ben_vulpes: wow i've never heard that argument made in the wild
Naphex: as i will on clisp
asciilifeform: i will continue to shit on it.
Naphex: and i wasn't advocating it
asciilifeform: Naphex: ... I ain't one to duke it out on irc for random bullshit << spewing garbage, on the other hand, is perfectly fine ?
ben_vulpes: fuck if i know.
Naphex: keep your stuff safe. i try to
Naphex: anyway. words ain't much to me and I ain't one to duke it out on irc for random bullshit
Naphex: anyway, what i was saying is you take steps 'secure' or tape your stuff always, and you don't feed raw data to your apps if you can filter the input beforehand. ☟︎
trinque: (notwithstanding that I don't see how ipsec protects some JRE app)
trinque: Naphex: you'd have to give me a coherent explanation of what you think an encrypted LAN is before I could possibly tell you what I think about it.
trinque: "I don't want to read that much; can you tweet me about secure?"
Naphex: asciilifeform: i do work, explain me in tehnical terms
Naphex: i'd like the learn
Naphex: well i have no clue what you're saying is too complex
trinque: I'm not going to copy and paste the last 20 lines of logs for you
Naphex: i agree ;]
asciilifeform: where should i bury my servers? back yard? cemetery ?
asciilifeform: but to get back to original thread, i wasn't even specifically thinking of 0days in the jre itself, but the overall turdification and prevention of fits-in-head that java inescapably leads to.
asciilifeform: if that's 'pretty clean', i shudder to imagine Naphex's idea of 'dirty'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110312 << what, i gotta draw a picture ? ☝︎
mod6: but i'll just take your word for it.
mod6: i have a chroot set up, and all that. im still not even sure how any of this will work.
mod6: that's what i just am doing now. it's compiling from that.
Naphex: trinque: i like doing it once and then just reusing the config on the same hardware :P
mod6: i know like, zero about gentoo.
mod6: i just copied my config to .config, w/e
Naphex: mod6: i'd just do the chroot thing and getting it done. doing a custom kernel won't help you much running in a hypervisor
trinque: typically I copy the config there, and also store it elsewhere for reuse
mod6: ok qq: i saved the config as 'btc-dev-gentoo64-ami.config', under the chroot: /usr/src/linux ; do I need to do anything specific to ensure that I'm compiling with this config instead of the defaulted filename '.config' ?
trinque: not that I don't own many of them
williamdunne: Yeah I'm not aware either
trinque: could exist, I'm not aware if so
trinque: williamdunne: I tend to think there's a place for metal as cheap as a micro ec2 instance for example
trinque: I am embarassed to admit that it took until this year for me to discover that
mod6: i don't even see the paravirtualized guest support option
trinque: I once worked for a company that was early (first?) in the server blade space; something like that where there's a uniform backplane which can host different configurations, maybe
trinque: what I'd love to see someday is a DC with no virtualization, just tinier boxes ☟︎
mod6: i guess this is just my first attempt at it. this build of gentoo needs to built with nothing extra so we can build all of the rest by hand, then we'll have a clue as to what tool chain it's using and it's not using something wacky behind our backs.
mod6: yeah, i got that from the above convo about hypervisors. thanks.
trinque: rules out a class of problems I guess, but certainly should still be considered enemy territory
menahem: seeing as everyone is posting their blog love, i did write this today: http://chedr.ca/2015/04/your-emotions-are-irrelevant-and-youve-missed-the-point/ (brings up mircea_popescu 's discussion on RIPple with W3C) ☟︎
mod6: yeah, not on this machine. i'll probably end up creating a totally seperate 32bit instance at another time.
mod6: alright. pretend i don't know what any of that means.
trinque: mod6: I tend to use the hardened profile along with a hardened kernel
mod6: trinque: going throught this 'building a gentoo ami' guide... any thoughts on the "Select system profile" section? I was about to pick #11...
wyrdmantis: williamdunne: I appreciate the "Lego Under the Giant's Feet" header among other things. And the paypal post also :)
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110314 <<< this is just the default manner wordpress creates an archive page, i think, unless bb made changes ☝︎
williamdunne: I guess what missing from it is that I still don't see why the increase in block-size, or easier access to running a semi-node is inherently bad
ben_vulpes: hey well mircea_popescu i'm off to have some real coffe
williamdunne: "I am not saying that the needs of the many will not be heard or, when they're justified needs, attended to, but I am saying that they must be channeled through their liege lords instead of democratically elected "representatives" who solicit donations from the rich by promising to protect them from the ravages of the destitute mob, and votes from the destitute mob by promising to protect them from the
mircea_popescu: sucks toi be you i guess.
williamdunne: But I would prefer to be in business and doing compliance than out of business and not
mircea_popescu: i know that if i'm the guy where the buck stops (usually rendered as "ceo" in anglocircles) then god damned are my opinionsmandatory for the whole organisation. wtf else are we even doing.
williamdunne: I personally I have a disdain for compliance of any sort
williamdunne: ben_vulpes: I'd disagree, while liquidity is important when it comes to profiting through trading there are features that matter, i.e leverage
mircea_popescu: (what i mean is, you don't get the option ot have some here and none there. if you have some, it's everywhere)
williamdunne: I think I covered the WoT a bit (well, GPG contracts) in 'Your reputation is a commodity'
williamdunne: ben_vulpes: I too have the capability to write, even if I'm not as eloquent as most here