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mircea_popescu: it protects an entire fucking population from the above being an absolute.
mircea_popescu: suddenly we understand the importance of national heroes like joe stack
mircea_popescu: yes, plenty of folk do. that don't work, live, were educated or born in the us.
mircea_popescu: if they were properly leet and called their secret legions to battle with da polis.
mircea_popescu: hahahaha. and similarly i know that they WOULDNT NEED TO pull the pin
mircea_popescu: this utter fear of finality they bake into all their runts.
mircea_popescu: so it is usable by anyone who doesn't work, live, was educated or born in the us.
mircea_popescu: i would propose to you that "destroying the keys" feels exactly like "moving to argentina" does to you.
mircea_popescu: not being an anglotard - even better start. and yet...
mircea_popescu: so i can't compute this like you would. it's silent and cheap, not loud, not costly.
mircea_popescu: if btc people were the sort where it'd cost about 1.25 heads of usg agent per bitcoin stolen, this is one thing.
mircea_popescu: these are all the moving parts we'll have to count and balance.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform usg currently steals to sell. perhaps. this does not reduce their capacity to steal in the future. if in the future they steal to hoard, or if the stuff they "sold" was just facade, through preserving coinbases we are baking in not just the original satoshi, but also an evil satoshi.
mircea_popescu: im sorry, "detract from their capacity of stealing" is what i meant.
mircea_popescu: but this does not detract from their capacity of selling.
mircea_popescu: after all, do you know how much usg stole so far ? do they have more than satoshi yet ? if not yet, when ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same argument could be presented in reverse, also.
mircea_popescu: in the pow1 = sha(header+nonce) and pow2 = sha(digest+nonce), the first sha can even stay what it is now.
mircea_popescu: see, the beauty of this is that it is a TRUE soft fork.
mircea_popescu: the valuable idea there is, imo, that you have to keep the same nonce to calculate both sha values. which ACTUALLY does work, or seems to me to work, to do what the article proposes
mircea_popescu: ah ah. that's just assumption imported from current codebase, not intentional.
mircea_popescu: that's not the problem, the merkle tree jiggling is the problem.
mircea_popescu: what i read there was, have TWO hashes : sha(header+nonce) and sha(digest+nonce)
mircea_popescu: basically, have TWO hashes : sha(header+nonce) and sha(digest), and BOTH must be < difficulty.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol hey, life of your parents! funny how this works!
mircea_popescu: so your idea is, that we of course continue to maintain trb as is, but also develop a keccak pow variant, for use in case of forks ? or vice-versa, in case of forks develop it ?
mircea_popescu: which was part of my initial wtf at your initial reaction.
mircea_popescu: (and generally i dunno why this shortcircuit between facts and judgement became fashionable here, seems much too close to the habits of the "independent" demographic for comfort. trust me, if i want to say x i will say it in those exact words, as i have without exception to date. saying i don't know x means i do not know. and similarly, here, and so on. i totally can speak for myself, say what i mean etc.)
mircea_popescu: i'm not pushing it either this way or that, just want to get all the things on table if possibru.
mircea_popescu: yes, schelling point to continue, yes with the same idiots/geniuses as before, and thus at a lower adoption interest.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform keeping old coinbases has the advantage and the disadvantage of keeping old coinbases.
mircea_popescu: adlai you go about deductively showing your proposal from the shared basis.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, the crowning of five years of complete neglect of the relay network ?
mircea_popescu: can't make this sorta judgements on the basis of fucking copywriting.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller might just be boilerplate. replace "to the public" with "on god's own earth".
mircea_popescu: i dunno wtf i shoulda done different so this happened a week ago rather than now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform please note that it was strictly example and not design work ready for implementation.
mircea_popescu: 2) IF miners come out with their own fork, what do we do ?
mircea_popescu: so again : 1) ~IF~ summer/july becomes the summer of forks, what do we do ?
mircea_popescu: just like we [at least theoretically/aspirationally] write code
mircea_popescu: the entire thing was, we should take stock of the situation, and make some judgements and plan some plans in a complete and responsible manner.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between "i know x" and "i don't know x".
mircea_popescu: adlai they believe the rewaerd havling will kill them, which it well might ; and they see the opportunity with all the core/bitcoin-xt/blabla. will they take it ?