asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it's 'bout 3x less than i expected it'd cost
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wd. ( yer gonna have to break the news to'em at some pt tho )
asciilifeform: finally, there is no contract, it's a monthly thing.
asciilifeform: thing is in 1 of those concertina wire forts in bmore. 'expedient' corp. (never 1nce heard of it, but apparently nao monopoly in this fuckhole.)
asciilifeform: ergo, minimal cost to house a single machine running at sustained 10Mb/s (very thin imho) is 150 $ us / mo ( + orctax ) .
asciilifeform: 2u hole costs per se 100 / mo (just mains current an' physical space) , net pipe is on top of this.
asciilifeform: racks are kolhoz, if one buys less than whole rack, a d00d with a camera stands there while you fiddle in it.
asciilifeform: holes sold by 2u; each 2u comes w/ 320watt (at 220v)
asciilifeform: for physical slots, that is, cheap. bw -- less cheap. they want 50 $ (usa) per 10Mb-sustained. ( and in fact boxen get plugged into a Gb/s port , and expected to ration selves , erry 10Mb/s/mo costs 50 , if somehow eat 100Mb/s/mo or equiv. weight, costs 500 ! )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje, BingoBoingo , et al : bmore orcs actually pretty cheap , comparatively . promised written quote later today.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: are the people where you put your www at all usable ? or only worx when mp_en_viaje's in saddle ? (or not on table cuz 'eggs/basket' ? )
asciilifeform elbowed a key and mp_en_viaje's caesar ended up where the front sector camera running image normally is on asciilifeform's left-lower lcd. asciilifeform sees, and goes 'wtf' before realizes
asciilifeform: and ideally yes, not glued to 1 horse again.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: we'll be ridin' them horsies. cuz aint got shortwave net yet.
asciilifeform: 1 horse shot out from under human, gotta get another.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun think there's any way to avoid riding'em
asciilifeform: aite. cuz i suspect it's 'moldavia all the way down'.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: do you find it entirely unacceptable to use someone like the moldavian d00d , if someone volunteers to 'cutout' (i.e. pay him and pasture him, on command) ?
asciilifeform: imho e.g. bmore is only good (IF at all usable) for physical boxen to live, where asciilifeform can pasture'em with own hands ; would have to be barking mad to ~lease~ a box there
asciilifeform also in favour of mp_en_viaje's 'rebuild uy1' idea , it is smart.
asciilifeform got call w/ bmoreistan scheduled for 1.5h from nao, to haggle.
asciilifeform raging atm re the apparent depth of the bmore tards' retardation, but will elaborate later
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: didja know there are 0 in washingtonistan ?!
asciilifeform in talks with a bmore machine park, not expecting massive win. but possibly can house sumthing at sumthing resembling a human price.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it doesn't even need to be unusually heavy machine
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje already knows that we have backups.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i think he's asking re 'when the fuck can thewhet et al be standing again asap'
asciilifeform: alternatively colo hole and the actual uy1 to be placed there. ( but this latter, slower )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there is ! i.e. get heathen machine, and unroll the backup to it.
asciilifeform: i'm still not 100% convinced that it was stupid. even if erryone is too weak.
asciilifeform 's father made him do it when was small .
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: for some reason i thought you had'em write into a queue always
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i was wundering where newton's royalsociety thing went..
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: you have entirely fair point, 'gun that no one aims an' pulls trigger on dun fight'
asciilifeform: [insert here oblig thrd where mp: 'you think i actually NEED the net? well, i can just as readily rule via camel couriers!11' ]
asciilifeform: ( which -- did. but that's story for another time )
asciilifeform: i suspect that mp_en_viaje will yet have occasion to say 'thank you' to asciilifeform for having 'wasted time' discovering how to undetectably and reliably shortwave.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho mp_en_viaje was in fact right in 2015, when wrote that working internet can only be built w/ constellation of machinery on old one, where if can connect to 1 noad, you get republican net, and the bits ~will~ go where they're addressed for so long as there's physically via what.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: germany got its 'win via separate-peace w/ usa' after all. just took half century, vs. himmler's desired 2weeks.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fwiw lotsa folx in june '41 said also this.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: atm haven't even made for you the 1st breakfast tho.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'spring' does need the keccak tho. then can actually rsapad.
asciilifeform: atm yes. cuz asciilifeform , 'idiot, wasted time', dug the ore an' forged them springs.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: no amt of spring does anyffin w/out ratchet. or ratchet, w/out spring.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: orig. asciilifeform's counter to 'internet is disappearing' was 'let's make mp_en_viaje's gossipd'. but then, like idjit, went to try an' make isp purse from sow ear.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: ftr i wasn't under the impression that you were.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: possibly asciilifeform has simplistic model of BingoBoingo -- i.e. ' BingoBoingo -- parachutist. what's a 2nd, 3rd, ..., jump, to parachutist !'
asciilifeform: afaik the only ixp in uy is antel. but mp_en_viaje has it
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho mp_en_viaje has strong point.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i strongly suspect that that dc got 'colour revolution'-d but this not directly pertinent to thrd.
asciilifeform: fwiw i'm satisfied that there's moar buried nazi gold to be found in uy than dc-run-by-guy but if mp_en_viaje not convinced , i haven't a counter
asciilifeform: re 'run by a guy' -- these dun seem to exist in uy
asciilifeform: btw is it known that maxim of mivo actually runs the dc ?
asciilifeform pictures BingoBoingo conscripted into latech
asciilifeform: but won't make idjit friends in a dc ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: gotta ask, why couldn't he, e.g. fix motorcycles ? also work for good hands, and unlike salaried tech ( asciilifeform did a 2y+ tour of duty as just-this when was starving ) open-ended vol. of biz
asciilifeform: but for what need angela, monica worx same ?
asciilifeform: aint 'phd' either. but not quite 'buy from any flea market, wtf, phd assembly line, derp'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re other-people's gear -- aint exactly, as you suggested, 'interchangeable sex tape that can be made with any tard', see e.g. 1, 2 .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma also lay off 'tin soldiering' BingoBoingo , he's an a++ meat soldier and seems to be handling the evacuation 100% properly with own head.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aite, i'ma lay off until reactor's quenched. but the q of where goes BingoBoingo aint 100% irrelevant to the quench process.
