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asciilifeform: i'm a terrible cook. but have never 'crashed' my kitchen yet
ben_vulpes: this is such a bold claim!
ben_vulpes: hey man i'm a really bad programmer
phf: *from a thread
phf: my favorite way to do lisp persistence is to just keep everything in memory and do ext:save-lisp from a that does minor amount of saved image management. i learned the trick from avi bryant back when he was writing interesting code
decimation: if you cannot predict the outcome of a request of the hardware, how can you possibly 'fix it' in software?
decimation: for example, you can make a syscall and all possible outcomes are foreseen
asciilifeform: like a colt '45 works
trinque: go kill a few of those and fund your computer
trinque: there are a hundred large pieces of software already out in the wild begging to be ripped open by something new
gabriel_laddel: ftr, when using manardb you'll have to force it to init on reboot by creating a junk mmap'ed class.
gabriel_laddel: OSICAT is a unix bindings library, download/build that program, it'll CFFI some stuff and kosher.
asciilifeform: he takes the hardware as a given
asciilifeform: naggum had a thing re: 'job-creating systems'
asciilifeform: which is to say, in this case, whether he has already had the flash of realization that the shit he is working with sucks because of 'anthropic principle' - that is, if it weren't a crock of shit, he would not have his job...
asciilifeform: i can usually tell from talking to a fella who programs - for three minutes - whether he's 'seen the elephant'
ben_vulpes: a document store
ben_vulpes: some engineer somewhere in some corp decides to play with it for a week, people who wrote dumbthing get email of concern from said engineer, decide to advertise as "running bigcorp"
ben_vulpes: this is always a lie
ben_vulpes: client blew their budget on ie8 css compatibility in a half-assed single page js app
trinque: nosql is a fucking sham
ben_vulpes: he just got a job writing common lisp
asciilifeform: somebody buy gabriel_laddel a new modem ?
trinque: I get a tree, in a database!
asciilifeform: by a phriend.
asciilifeform: it takes up most of a shelf
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: they were, iirc, the first hyperlinked manual (one was expected to read them on the machine - but it came with a paper set!)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i may yet end up with a set because of this reason.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the symbolics books are a marvel of writing.
ben_vulpes: trinque: go, read. a marvel of technical writing.
asciilifeform: gives you a pass, and one for the woman
asciilifeform: it's roughly a hundy, iirc
ben_vulpes: i am however considering a conversion
BingoBoingo: PeterL: Recently had some "sour crude" leak from a pipe upstream of our reservoir
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207034 << ben_vulpes is a recent convert to 'costco' ? ☝︎
PeterL: The river running through my town has a "don't eat the fish" rule because of some toxic spill upstream from 20 years ago
asciilifeform: and folks come to think that it excuses them from knowing jack shit about data structures and choosing right one for a job
asciilifeform: it is a malignancy - in every way, from forcing me to touch and think about turdlangs, to being chock-full of opaque mechanisms and slow as fuck at its fastest
asciilifeform: author was trying to keep dbisms to a minimum.
trinque: I'll admit I got a bit uncomfortable seeing a keyvalue table
mircea_popescu: in practice, we're stuck with a coupla whores."
mircea_popescu: "listen dear, the arab prince has a friend. would you..."
mircea_popescu: old man schmuckssen calls over his wife. "honey, there's an arab prince at the door, wants to fuck you silly for a million bucks. what should i say to him ?"
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mircea_popescu: after reading b-a log for the first time, little gavin schmuckssen went to his father
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has it. sorta like i asked my father, as a small boy, if furniture could speak. answer 'yes, in principle'
mircea_popescu: via a sailboat.
asciilifeform: it is more or less the obvious solution to 'how to keep a public tx pool'
asciilifeform: PeterL: mircea_popescu had a scheme quite like the one you described
mircea_popescu: PeterL you know your thinking is a nearly exact restatement of what i said last week ?
ben_vulpes: PeterL: you missed the thread where alf pointed out that 'mempool' is not a part of bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: which yes is a thing.
PeterL: to make sure they get included eventually in a block
PeterL: So I've been thinking about the mempool: There should be a size limit set in the config for mempool, along with the minFee. Each txn gets scored based on age of coins, amount in txn, size of txn, and fee, etc, once the size limit is reached if a txn does not meet the lowest ranking it is ignored, if it does then the lowest ranked txn is ejected to make space, and every once in a while the oldest and highest ranking txns in the mempool are rebroa
asciilifeform: at some point it will be possible to tell - with a geiger.
asciilifeform: a dozen species
mircea_popescu: no dood, sardine is a fish lol
asciilifeform: 'sardine' is a dish
mircea_popescu: the sprat IS a sardine. that's what they're called in english.
asciilifeform: decimation: i've yet to locate a supplier for unsmoked
decimation: it is weird how most usians are biased against fish in a tin
asciilifeform checks larder, notices a full clip of sprats. pet must have bought a bunch
mircea_popescu: but yes, gossipd is the huge sort of project that looks like it'd benefit from a few failure reports from failed attempts before we seriously have a shot.
mircea_popescu: trinque guy seemed to be seriously working on it, was gonna say something in a coupla weeks a quarter ago.
gribble: artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 weeks, 4 days, 2 hours, 42 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <artifexd> I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
asciilifeform: uncle al's orbit-sweeper shotgun is only a matter of time.
decimation: the stuff below a few hundred km is okay, because it is 'swept' by atmosphere
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2015 00:56:25; ben_vulpes: there are a million ways to pull debris out of orbit.
ben_vulpes: b-a mailservers when
asciilifeform: they chase everyone with a pulse
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1206950 << you clearly did not actually go to the arse chaser and ask for a job ☝︎
ben_vulpes: there are a million ways to pull debris out of orbit. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: but more precisely a 'transformation' thing.
mircea_popescu: i don't use gmail and don't have a spam problem. but hey.
decimation: it's a 'baptists and bootleggers' situation
trinque: there were a few, apple might've too
mircea_popescu: when's the last time google had a product ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1206831 << mno. that's 'dotcom boom' sop. today - no one without 'straight a' marks is considered, etc. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: vulnerable to a bit of replay
ben_vulpes: (signed by a customer or allowed user or someone the service provider likes)
ben_vulpes: i thought up an http-auth thing recently: http request headers containing a signed hash of one of the last 2 blocks
decimation: well, there's a whole movement of 'get space to the people'
mircea_popescu: decimation mp's law! when i was born, the first satellite had just cost a fortune. by the time i had my first threesome, they were doing consumer phone via satellite. as i made my self billion, fucing romania launched a satellite on a shoestring budget.
decimation: ^ and a small leo 'store-and-forward' would be cheap
gribble: artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 weeks, 4 days, 2 hours, 32 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <artifexd> I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
decimation: mircea_popescu: sats are getting cheaper, but doing a 'multipoint sat constellation' is still going to be $$$$$
trinque: I really don't think not having a b-a satellite network should preclude getting started on gossipd
mircea_popescu: and if they refuse to sign a contract, im going to sue them for refusing to sign a contract, which thewy actually have to do being a de facto monopoluy
decimation: if you are in a datacenter you might get this level of service
decimation: yeah it's a fair point
mircea_popescu: im going to sue them, because we have a contract.
ben_vulpes: <decimation> boost compiles fine with macports << i'm a homebrew dood. perhaps this is wrong?
mircea_popescu: server that rejects requests on 80 etc is way harder all of a sudden
mircea_popescu: exactly how it works here : we have a public slut (ie, gribble) who will convey a message to anyone, and who can trivially be silenced. otherwise, suppose unknown asks you to convey message to me. well ? why would you.
mircea_popescu: you know those hops in the traceroute ? well... the assumption is that they'll just take a packet.
mircea_popescu: 1Mpps has been seen, so... yeah routing over wot will not be a trivial problem. but it does have a trivial solution :
decimation: which is why 24 fps in a dark room worked for 100 years
decimation: in fact, there's a point where it hits an 'uncanny valley' and you realize it's all a set with fake shit everywhere
mircea_popescu: moving from 2mb gifs to 600mb .avis was a great reason to ditch the cdrom get a dvd
mircea_popescu: moving from asciiart tits to 500kb gifs was a great reason to ditch the diskette and put in a cdrom