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alphonse23_: sure. it just a shame. hacker news was a real gem back in the day. I'm sure it's inevitable, as things become more mainstream, they get too political, and less honest. Now I have to go out a find good honest news from somewhere underground.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-05-2015#1134618 << seeing how the factors so far have been 3, 7 and 11... i imagine all the truely bad keys will be in one of those (possibly most/all of those) groups ☝︎
mircea_popescu: alphonse23_ once gossipd is done, i guess there.
alphonse23_: so where the hell do I get my tech news from. Reddit? they Y combinator owns them too.
mircea_popescu: davout yes, had you done it afore the bet i guess.
davout: if i then submit a key whose factors are 3 and 5
davout: mircea_popescu: well, if i craft a key whose factors are 1 and 3, theoretically it's a valid gpg key
mircea_popescu: davout then i suppose it's not broken yet ?
davout: that's the easy part i think "anything recognized as such by asset's favorite gnupg version"
mircea_popescu: i don't personally use it.
alphonse23_: i've been going there daily for years, and I've noticed the change
mircea_popescu: graham, altman &co are butthurt because we regularly mock their "venture capitalism" ? i dunno
davout: re the bitbet, this guy had it: "So I can still drop bad keys on purpose? Or key had to be added before announcing this bet?"
alphonse23_: I came because of the 4096-rsa article
assbot: Logged on 17-05-2015 14:42:17; mats: i loled. 1.08btc on 0.02btc
mircea_popescu: been some internet tough guy months ago "destroying us" by flooding noobs, but i had thought he gave up meanwhile.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-05-2015#1135377 < if this were the case i should also be able to replace your key with mine. doesn't seem that works tho ☝︎
prx: mircea_popescu: yep, thx. I'll stay here forlivestuff, if that's fine with you guys
mircea_popescu: there is theoretical support, but in practice the lists seem dead and i have nfi who can even undertake that beast of a task
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-05-2015#1134624 <<< i'll defer to BingoBoingo for this story, i sorta grasp the situation but not really enough to do a story justice ☝︎
trinque: and I will, if only as an exercise in whether it's actually possible to get something fixed in glibc
mircea_popescu: i updated the article to lulz a little at the ydumbinator crew
trinque: "I assume they are produced by network errors, harddisk failures or software bugs. It may also be that someone just created them in some experiment."
asciilifeform: trinque: i've run into this kind of thing on several occasions.
asciilifeform: their factor-counterparts, i do not yet know
trinque: by respond I mean bury
trinque: I'm about as amazed with how rapidly the various "news" sites can respond to this
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, downside of sleeping in is I missed a timely annoucement of keys shattering. On the plus side Am I reading it right, that the pattern seems to be various sorts of strongset people have these weak keys, almost exclusively?
asciilifeform: i expect it'll all be memory-holed shortly.
mircea_popescu: i must be doing something wrong then
mircea_popescu: what i don't get is, how exactly you reproduce this ? i can't seem to make sks server to accept extra, unsigned subkeys from anyone.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/i-think-you-drastically-overestimate-the-military-importance-of-nuclear-weapons/#comment-114220 << republished it jic
mircea_popescu: i'd have added "or one of his harem slaves" but iirc he's a twink
trinque: I know not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, i know of no better proof that the "atomic weapons not actually militarily useful" than this sort of perennial wank.
mircea_popescu: trinque is this like the only bit of c code deployed without stdint ? i wonder if he had a reason
trinque: asciilifeform: yeah I'll bother the ebuild guy for this
asciilifeform: at the screen or used common sense, would've seen I was recording. There were other SWS
asciilifeform: book word for word. I held the phone still, about a foot in front of my face and anyone who looked
asciilifeform: allowed. I sat down; took my Samsung Galaxy SII (white) out of my pocket, and recorded the entire
asciilifeform: book out then filmed it? No. What I did was walk into a room were no recording devices are
asciilifeform: on the access list, and no personnel electronics are allowed. I was on the access list but how could I
asciilifeform: their heads and wondering how I'm writing this on my personnel laptop and referencing a book,
asciilifeform: strategic weapon system. I'm sure all the Strategic Weapon System (SWS) personnel are scratching
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, i suspect it's more subtle than that.
mircea_popescu: i am definitely suspicious of this entire tower of mirrors made of shit.
asciilifeform: i should like to get a list of -everything- he 1) signed 2) public is running
mircea_popescu: i meant the REAL victim.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tbh i find the "broken in transit" explanation offered by the back to sleep camp particularly ridiculous.
delan: I really hope my keys’ factors are /actually/ prime
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> most she-haters i know are womenz. << girl last night pointed out that all of her worst clients (she's a physical therapist, deals with highly athletic folks coming to terms with their now-reduced performance envelopes) are women
trinque: yeah I'll make a patch
trinque: ok I fixed the dieharder build on gentoo
mircea_popescu: you know that's to this day one of the most popular articles ? i dunno what's with them ppls.
asciilifeform: davout: no, i meant that it is actually not hard. as in, go and read definition for sha256
trinque: yeah I'm figuring out a patch
asciilifeform: eh howthefuck would i know. but why not.
JPT: I decided to read along a little since it got to me that some rsa keys were broken ;)
ben_vulpes: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=throwaway2391 << bobby boy do i have to smack you again?
mircea_popescu: was it reddit i think ?
trinque: I've been refreshing
davout: I was thinking time-decay algo
asciilifeform: i recommend that someone who cares, snapshot the thing before it vanishes entirely
decimation: indeed. I'm off on a home improvement project, good luck with the ramblig mob that's gonna come by
decimation: well, I guess if you want your 'roster of people' to be a combination of legal record and bathroom graffiti, they got you covered
decimation: I don't think anything
mircea_popescu: i mean, if the claims is accurate, what's to keep me from making anyone's sks profile 1 gb long ?
trinque: I'm trying to figure out why it wont build
decimation: 'oh I got a bad key'
decimation: cause I thought there was a checksum
asciilifeform: i've misplaced it
asciilifeform: just as i said then
mircea_popescu: davout yes but honestly i'd rather let it work some more first.
mats: asciilifeform: it hurts ma ego everytiem i get a 'old fucking news'
ben_vulpes: mats: as a new dog i must piss on each and every electric fence
mats: asciilifeform: this in particular wasn't new to me but nonetheless i shared
mats: asciilifeform: as a new dog i must learn old tricks
ben_vulpes: i am not as malbec immune as davout thinks
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i specifically warned you not to use an rs232 dongle. don't be surprised when output fails a number of tests.
mircea_popescu: "The results I worried about, millions of children running Windows on the OLPC, have not occurred. Instead we see millions of children running Windows on the Intel Classmate."
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: feel free to dig. i can't be bothered.
mircea_popescu: i am not sure how much of this to believe.
asciilifeform: 'Here's what's going on: There are a number of keys on the keyservers that are faulty copies of real keys - they share most of the values, but have some errors. I don't exactly know why that is happening, but I assume it's because of network transmission errors or server crashes during transmissions. These keys don't really do any harm. ...'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wonder if this is reproducible, make sks servers display random data as people's subkeys.
trinque: yeah I did -v -v
jurov: i asked it to be twice as verbose
trinque: ah I see it; different output than mine
mircea_popescu: how would i know that
asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/3R5JRKD.txt << i get this
asciilifeform: jurov: i was suspecting a spurious key
mike_c: mircea_popescu: ok, i can make something like that. headed to a bbq right now, I'll get it going tonight.
mircea_popescu: i pass a base64 img wrapped in a tags. could you maybe make it be the same and i just forward it ? dunno.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne "_" Waiting for Connection, "S" Starting up, "R" Reading Request, "W" Sending Reply, "K" Keepalive (read), "D" DNS Lookup, "C" Closing connection, "L" Logging, "G" Gracefully finishing, "I" Idle cleanup of worker, "." Open slot with no current process
mike_c: I have a script that will do it, not sure if you can use that for your ads? If not, we could either pick a specific bet to promote and link it to that, or link to homepage.
asciilifeform: -possibly- if folks ask nicely i will add a 'throw modulus raw' thing
asciilifeform: (please don't throw in private key. i will -not- get it back out for you)
davout: or i guess yes, GCD the running product once in a while
mircea_popescu: mike_c how do i get what url it needs to link to ?
d34th: i have a few cores i could donate
mircea_popescu: williamdunne i dunno what exactly he does, but if people are complaining it must be something.