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asciilifeform: ( process seems to resemble chukchas discovering vodka )
mircea_popescu: i am (i guess?) proud to say that ro pron party included womenz to my knowledge. wtf is the point without, they jack off on the zacusci ?
asciilifeform: ask the arabs ? or whatever monkeys just recently discovered pr0n
mircea_popescu: this is some of the dumbest shit i ever heard. why not have women ?
mircea_popescu: you mean, folks over the age of 14 ?!
asciilifeform: nah just folx partying with tapes
asciilifeform: ( re why folx bought sov-made vcr, in preference to better-quality sony. answ : it had spring-powered cassette ejector, cops cut mains current when busting 'pr0n house' but could still get rid of the tape, in sov vcr )
mircea_popescu: very "conservative" and "tolerant" people, they call themselves. it's true, but the problem is the mud fits this definition.
mircea_popescu: the wheel turned as well as ever ... but the car... it didn't move.
mircea_popescu: on one of the trips, i had slut stop car on side of river while i took pics. fresh mud, inexperienced offroad driver, car got mudded.
asciilifeform: the basic problem of agrarians -- insufficient fire under the heels
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's pov this is what culture ~is~ -- when ben_vulpes writes own vtron, or mircea_popescu makes own jazz riff on asciilifeform's 'chumps' article, or the various other.
mircea_popescu: can't meaningfully interact with a dog, let alone their wife, let alone you know, chtulhu from the depths of the abyss.
mircea_popescu: this is the problem of 2, and it is as deep as it gets. mentally isolated, solitary lonely lost dorks.
mircea_popescu: think of this for a moment -- you, joe schmoe, write something. and someone comes and changes it. and you... HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
mircea_popescu: but i, and on multiple occasions, rewrote the work of LIVING AUTHORS. with their knowledge, that never amounted to more than a piddly comment on the trilema article in question.
mircea_popescu: i deliberately took to employing a classical renaissance procedure, of re-writing. that i rewrote a bunch of classical works and the whole set of "Specialists" did not find themselves under a life-or-death obligation to drop everything they were doing and pick up this is one thing
asciilifeform: i could think of worse things to be than 'time capsule' of old roman periphery tho.
mircea_popescu: but trilema is many things, and among them a very pointed exercise in this discussion.
asciilifeform: ( and nao their rubbish is everywhere to this day )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform very much so, yes, and especially of this worst agraristan of all, "we're still wearing same clothes as roman colonists 2000 years ago and really speak the same language and fuck you"
asciilifeform: the english managed to solve 2 without making any dent in 1
mircea_popescu: there's two prongs that drive to "i understand empire france by reading balzac" : 1. that balzac writes and 2. that the whole fucking world buys his foilletons.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the problem isn't creators, that romania has. the problem is romania itself, as dumbly impermeable as fresh clay.
asciilifeform: iirc in mircea_popescu's piece just the other day was 'caragiale didn't need no stinking flag'
asciilifeform: folx living in what is today romania. but did they do it 'under flag' of romania ?
mircea_popescu: this is nonsense, romania was culturally powerful before the us was discovered, in numerous instantiations.
asciilifeform: what kind of literate man wants to stay in nebraska.
asciilifeform: rather like the literary-sterility of, e.g., nebraska in usa.
asciilifeform: ( ionesco in particular comes to mind )
asciilifeform: if your best literators learn french and move to paris -- problem.
asciilifeform: 'literary sterility' in this case i suspect comes from being very new to 'being country' -- not so much literature from finland, for instance, likewise
mircea_popescu: including you know, the "pls halp" telegram, the turning of that war, the strange situation of ww1, the taking of odessa and march on rome, it's a complicated century.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im trying to condense together a period starting in 1850.
mircea_popescu: not altogether an un-understandable or for that matter incorrect view. moreover, owing to romania's incredible literary sterility as manifested as a long term sustained inability to meaningfully write themselves...
asciilifeform: dunno, at least from my perch common d00d's pov was 'europistan-lite', 'less retarded than us because at least slightly farther in magic compass direction'
mircea_popescu: "fucking scary batshing insane barbarians of tiny size and austrian palaces. NIGGA WHAT?>!>!>!!!?"
mircea_popescu: anyway. the russian secular view of romania is a sort of balanced chechenia-japan mix.
asciilifeform: ty for the mini-article mircea_popescu . it makes sense.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/le-bal/ << Trilema - Le Bal
mircea_popescu: from there on they forged an alliance with petru groza, a sorta-maybe left (less so than today's xtian democrats for instance) with some popular appeal, pretended to have won the election on ~43% of the vote, then leaned on individual ministers to play along, then scoured the prisons for credible ministalins. picked gheorghe gheorghiu dej and that was mostly it, they withdrew.
mircea_popescu: so they cut a deal with mihai (an amusing episode in itself, mihai was very much krammer in that negotiation episode, "we offer free lifetime cappucinos and,,," "ILL TAKE IT!!!1", and made a govt with sanatescu.
mircea_popescu: as a result, the victorious revolutionaries found themselves in '45 in a dubious situation : they had absolutely no political legitimacy. outside of mihai, who was mentally incompetent then as now, but whose two aunts were very willing to sell out ; and sanatescu, who didn't think much of them (for cause), they had ~no one in bucharest.
mircea_popescu: the reason specifically they did that had nothing to do with hating the romanians or thinking they suck (which they didn't, on the contrary, germans even had german troops under romanian command) was that general sanatescu gave out the whole order of battle + everything else to the russians.
mircea_popescu: entirely ineptly led german war effort, very poorly supplied, resulted in an untenable military situation at the don's bend : romanian forces were out of ammunition, out of fuel, out of anything. the russians counterattacked the two sections held by romanians, and killed a quarter million people.
mircea_popescu: romania got meanwhile engaged on the eastern front by general antonescu, who was literally as he describes himself, a military man being sucked into a power vacuum and trying to do best could be done.
mircea_popescu: the 2nd carol was very much a redditard. he quit to pursue his whoring interests, leaving the congenitally retarded mihai "on the throne". this is through and through power vacuum. eventually he returned, and tried to be a sort of local mussolini, tho it didn't so much catch.
mircea_popescu: the switch happened because the original carol didn't have children. which happened because "marriage", dumbest fucking shit ever. but we digress.
mircea_popescu: romania had a great king, carol 1st. he was a scion of carol of hohenzollern and maria murat. romania also had three shitty kings : ferdinand, carol 2 and mihai, in decreasing order of shittytude -- the first one was like a librarian, inept but disciplined. these come off leopold and some portuguese infanta. MUCH worse material.
mircea_popescu: you really think there exista another romanian scholar ?
asciilifeform: link worx too
mircea_popescu: well, i was talking about european countries.
asciilifeform: i even got to live in the (tail end) of one.
asciilifeform: communal flats were a thing in su from 20s up
asciilifeform: better to train the cattle to open on own power.
asciilifeform: i suppose the breaking-doors thing was deemed arduous, traumatic, costly
mircea_popescu: apparently all they had to do is call it "prime"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall when post-war commies did the whole "you gotta take so and so people into "your" house because it's ours and we house people there" ? what gnashing of teeth, what anger it caused ?
asciilifeform: in other lulz, amazon co nao offering... i shit thee not, 'Not at home? Not a problem. As a Prime member, you can get packages securely delivered into your home without being there. Plus, grant access to the people you trust, like your family, friends, dog walker, or house cleaner—no more leaving a key under the mat.' << 'cloud'-controlled door lock. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ancient persia had an answer for the 'aerogel insulates' problem. they stuck wicks, of a sort, in the patient, and lit'em
asciilifeform: ( in particular re the effect of fat )
asciilifeform: btw somewhere in the l0gz are the crematory manuals i linked few yrs back
mircea_popescu: (protein is ~4, sweets ~7, alcohol~9... so if you take a serious alcohol-only meal prior maybe reach the .5mj)
mircea_popescu: cheap way to evaluate this is dietary calories (the conversion is based on ... heat capacity of water again). so basically 1 calorie is 4.2j and the caloric value of untrimmed carcass MAYBE 1 cal/gram. thereby... 100kgs = 420kj.
mircea_popescu: at the outer margin half a mj ?
davout: and how much energy does the burning generate once water is gone?
mircea_popescu: thereby a lowball estimate of "heat to dispose of one" is probably in excess of 30MJ per capita, as opposed to the 1MJ originally estimated above.
mircea_popescu: this disregards any losses due to the aerogel part, which insulates, and also any further losses from "boiling is not enough", as well as passive loss of heat into your apparatus etc.
mircea_popescu: the cost of ~mere vaporization~ of the ~mere water~ in the "water soaked aerogel" composing a shithead is ~280kJ PER KILOGRAM.
mircea_popescu: to do the math properly :
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 14:47 BingoBoingo: Anyways, to make up for outgassing without floating, you'd just have to sink the bags deeper... if you really wanted to
mircea_popescu: it is within the context it was used!!!11
mircea_popescu: but that is the important part.
mircea_popescu: from 5km to 10km, loses 13% of volume, gains 2x force.
mircea_popescu: davout it's a log. you are looking at the wrong side of this.
davout: 1L of air gets to .5L at 10m depth, experiences mucho less force pushing it up
mircea_popescu: yes, but do teh math! doesn't get compressed ~enough~.
davout: the gas gets compressed, therefore moves less water, therefore less buoyant
mircea_popescu: the reason deep things seem to raise "slowly" is because friction, which increases faster than the buoyancy force does.
mircea_popescu: the deeper a mol of gas is, the greater the buoyant force experienced by the flexible container holding it.
mircea_popescu: conceivable, yes. but much more distant. gotta load and then unload, move on land, meh.
mircea_popescu: gotta take them from room temp to boiling.
asciilifeform: what's the 80 ?
mircea_popescu: forgot this larger lobe right here.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you omit adding the heat to WARM water to vaporization ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile! container ship burns ~200 tons per day doing 25 knots. this means it covers 200 knots (go and return) out of 150 tons or so.
mircea_popescu: because why, thermodynamics is your friend and suddenly corpse isn't ~= water soaked aerogel ?
asciilifeform: dun think it costs anything like MJ.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform understand, the per-kg energetic cost of incineration is > 1MJ. this means 100 tons cost you over 100 GJ, or in fuel terms about a ton of gasoline. you can't be spending 1% by mass ffs.
asciilifeform: and imho there's no particular reason there could not be 'market economy' in redditor disposal.
asciilifeform: cheap relatively to fueling the boat.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "cheap mains current". it's expensive universally.
asciilifeform: and naturally you do it somewhere with cheap mains current ( the bauxiteries are helpfully situated there already )
mircea_popescu: the correct move is to take the dreamers from the section of earth inhabited (land) to the section of land uninhabited (sea) with a minimum of dirt and contamination produced.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, bone meal's this thing used sparingly for tomatoes to prevent blossom end rot. Specialty stuff for picky plants. Otherwise it's just more salt.
asciilifeform: ( you still gotta dump the ash somewhere tho )
mircea_popescu: nah. the burning's resource-expensive.
asciilifeform: the bauxite thing begins to look like a winner imho
mircea_popescu: back in ro i used ash fertilizer, it was de-boned prior to packing.
asciilifeform: grind bones for fertilizer. iirc there was a thread.