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asciilifeform: oh hey didn't mircea_popescu at one time have a bronze mortar ?
mircea_popescu: wtf is wrong with a chunk of fucking bronze, 100 grams or so, for the inner housing.
mircea_popescu: let the dumps contain 1000 plastic re-instantiations of the same god damned object, what if i could afford to pay 3x the price and leave it to my grandkids.
asciilifeform: why not teflon ? your grinder goes over 260C ?
mircea_popescu: now, it';d be nice if you could buy BRONZE interior. not fucking electrolysed, but SOLID. nevertheless, it is apparently usg-forbidden to use actual materials.
mircea_popescu: not sure i want teflonated coffee grinder tbh.
asciilifeform: there are other fluoroplastics , that are easier to work / other desirable parameters tweaked ☟︎
mircea_popescu: apparently it can be formulated so as to dissolve in dmf/dma etc
asciilifeform: it's a fluoroplastic ( the su unbranding of it, naturally )
mircea_popescu: i'll stand by it : this then means that teflon is only marginally at best a plastic.
mircea_popescu: o wow look at that, it's actually done ~in emulsion~. i had nfi.
mircea_popescu: i suppose. so how does it polymerizwe then ?
asciilifeform: what's teflon soluble in ?
mircea_popescu: it's the definition of plastic.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 05:05 mircea_popescu: ruined coffee grinder i had to import all the way from switzerland.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1734987 << swiss plastic rubbish aint what it used to be, eh ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so basically speaking, for as long as the women will keep getting pregnant the schoolteachers will still have work to do.
mircea_popescu: in any population the majority will be insufficient, and therefore readily converge towards somesuch nonsense.
mircea_popescu: from this search of "the easier way" by people stupid enough to not be able to distinguish the workable from the unworkable, the scam ever emerges.
mircea_popescu: concernedscaling the generator is ambitious idiots. they don't "feel" their current social station is befitting for one such as them ; but they ALSO don't "feel" like they should have to do what has to be done.
shinohai: But how else will I know what the ants are doing?
asciilifeform: 'why dontcha stop sitting on anthill' 'wat' 'aha, get off the anthill' 'that's not possible, everywhere is anthill' etc
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735055 << this was the umpteenth 'i am beset with ants! and i heard you have an anteater here' wasnnit. ☝︎
concernedscaling: If it so profitable to kill scams, why do so many exist?
concernedscaling: will try and get a key going too
shinohai: If you need any help or get stuck, ping me or sing out here in chan. Someone will be happy to assist.
concernedscaling: will try and get TRB node going later
concernedscaling: Thanks, havent seen this idiot proof how to guide
shinohai: Navigating to http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html and building that would be a far, far better use of one's time as well.
mircea_popescu: why not split work and axiety more evenly ? 100% to anxiety seems a poor strategy.
mircea_popescu: concernedscaling well... i'd say you have good cause to be concerned then.
mircea_popescu: like, a logotron is maybe a day's work to stand up and then maybe a hour monthly to maintain and such.
mircea_popescu: so since 2014 let's say, since you recall keyser, we could say you spent about 2k hours, or a full year's workhours, on this.
mircea_popescu: ok, but put out a figure. how many man hours does the concern take a year ?
concernedscaling: But, I don't even trade
davout: "sinking fake bitcoins" actually yields *more* bitcoins to further sink other fake bitcoins
concernedscaling: You know, it's actually pretty strange. I just buy and hold, but given the substantial amount of money, I rely on being current with the bullshit going on, because I chose to not underestimate the power of the idiots and how much harm it can do
concernedscaling: yeah, can't sink them all as they will just keep coming
mircea_popescu: concernedscaling for my curiosity, if you were to calculate the total hours you spent with " I need to take part to see how the market reacts" to date, what'd it come to ?
mircea_popescu: there have been a lot of these pies in the sky to be concerned about to date, huh.
concernedscaling: "Moreover, my budget to sink this scam exceeds the budget of everyone involved on the supporting side"
concernedscaling: Yes, I have read that a few times
mircea_popescu: we are talking of fiatola here, after all.
concernedscaling: I don't want to underestimate the dumb money being thrown around. I dont want all of these idiot users to crash my BTC holdings because some fake satoshi is spewing political nonsense on redditard/twitter to control people.
concernedscaling: a cesspool of ideas and spam, just a tool for controlling people. The fighting about core vs bcash vs seg2x vs miners vs blahblah is entertaining. Sad that I need to take part to see how the market reacts
mircea_popescu: concernedscaling why not make yourself a pgp key and reg with deedbot at that ?
concernedscaling: twitter? yeah something like that
mircea_popescu: what's this, like another digg/reddit ?
concernedscaling: if that is his twitter handle, his name is Ben Halpern
mircea_popescu: lol notbad. who's the author ?
concernedscaling: Thanks, I will try and not get caught up in the shit that doesnt really matter
mircea_popescu: old will was right, "the world's a stage". what he omitted to point out is that the hall only goes a yard whereas the stage goes on for miles. out of the building, and into the mists.
mircea_popescu: there's more scene than there's audience chairs, see.
concernedscaling: He even resorts to scam pumping of dash
mircea_popescu: yes, in the strictest of senses, the obscure masturbatory activities of desocialized youths "exist". but they do not socially exist, and for a very good reason : they're asocial to begin with.
concernedscaling: haha, I see. I do remember max keiser, and I see him still very involved in the bitcoin scene to this day
mircea_popescu: conceivably someone somewhere modified his bitcoin client to read "Hakked by CooLbOy" and recompiled. this is mutation now ?
mircea_popescu: has toyota "mutated" or wtf is the argument here. aftermarket modifications are marginal by their fucking definition. the people involved wouldn't be involved otherwise.
mircea_popescu: you ever seen one of those old toyota trucks people deleted bits off so they read YO ?
concernedscaling: Segwit is on the real bitcoin, no?
concernedscaling: At what point can the real bitcoin continue to mutate until something bad happens
mircea_popescu: you're probably too young to remember max keiser, and his amusing "expertises" in bitcoin years ago ; nevertheless a good helping of http://trilema.com/2017/cezar-petrescu-file-dintrun-caiet-de-amintiri-mateiu-i-caragiale/#footnote_25_75738 woul;d probably help.
mircea_popescu: this is not the real situation. bitcoin exists. "bitcoin cahs" DOES NOT EXIST. the various people that talk about things similarily do not exist.
mircea_popescu: you see some labels, and take out your chinese set, and lay out the pawns, these red ones to label1, these blue ones to label2 etcetera
mircea_popescu: right. so this is also the problem here : you keep trying to make sense of the situation left after a division by 0.
concernedscaling: Why is this relevant?
mircea_popescu: hm. problem might have been larger than originally thought.
concernedscaling: doesn't this make way more sense?
concernedscaling: Thanks. I guess I am just trying to make sense of all of this, and couldnt find it in the logs. Instead of bcash forking from bitcoin, what was stopping them from just mining and rejecting segwit transactions on the the real BTC?
mircea_popescu: the stubborn insistence of the "reading public" to read old newspapers is very much the chief ideological point of the journalist "profession", as it keeps them in print.
davout: concernedscaling: i don't think there's much to be said about this whole "issue" that wasn't said in 2014/2015
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 17:30 davout: so apparently the segwit2x derps finally yielded https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-segwit2x/2017-November/000685.html
concernedscaling: g it was a fork (it's like Litecoin in my mind, which "scales" as well). But even more concerning is Bitcoin with segwit, and my current BTC on this upgraded protocol. I have not seen much talk about these issues in here lately, is there a reason for this? It seems like most are underestimating the threat of this fake bcash and segwit.
concernedscaling: Hi everyone. I'm trying to make sense of all this scale talk and I want to keep my BTC safe. My first mistake is probably getting information from twitter and redditard. We have Dr Craig W going on (and quite convincing) about BCash being the real bitcoin as it is able to scale like satoshis vision. However, this makes no sense to me considerin
mircea_popescu: i can almost see the local charge d'affaires, "if you don't get taller hookers ima have your hotel del ray added to index!"
mircea_popescu: sooo obama lifted all-cuba ban, to be enforced instead on a hotel-by-hotel basis ?
shinohai: Likely, so "we gotta make sure and ban you 'muricans from these 80 hotels, just to be sure"
mircea_popescu: shinohai did it come alive at night and fuck their wife ?
shinohai: This whole US/Cuba row over the "sonic wavez" thing gets more ridiculous by the day: http://archive.is/Xhr6w
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 02:18 trinque: girl and I are looking seriously at singapore
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1734898 <<< housing looks like a nightmare there ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ruined coffee grinder i had to import all the way from switzerland. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and in other "god fucking damn it", i used coffee grinder to grind down some clavo de olor, which was so fucking juicy and fresh it ACTUALLY DISSOLVED the god damned plastic.
mircea_popescu: anything but suck the cock of your betters, it is teh modernity after all, french revolution relevant 4evar!!1
mircea_popescu: anyway. mildly amusing that in 2017 rando still don quixoting with the same windmills as in 2014. who knows, maybe if he wastes his ENTIRE life at this, "how he thinks normal debates work" will matter.
asciilifeform back to bed
a111: Logged on 2014-08-12 02:19 TimSwanson: Because that's how normal debates work
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the lulzy tim swanson has a blog, on which he uses trilema notes, and derps insistently. i'm taking a bet nobody ever heard of it.
asciilifeform: 'The Commission has determined not to pursue an enforcement action in this matter based on the conduct and activities known to the Commission at this time' << lol!
mircea_popescu: aaand in other "united states government what ? who are these schmucks nobody heard of ?" https://www.sec.gov/litigation/investreport/34-81207.pdf
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> neither is a toyota's worth of orcland << Toyota's worth of orland in Thailand will lack any centrality
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> bits of rural costa rica look nice, was briefly looking at chile before i realized i'd probably end up at the same miserable latitude << The problem with Chile is poor internet transit capacity.
asciilifeform: 40s usa was afaik by very long shot the best looking horse in the glue factory.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 02:41 asciilifeform: where would you rather they had gone in 40s , lol
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1734945 << not terrible choice in the 40s, the damage roosevelt was doing was neither obvious nor its staying power clear. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 02:40 trinque: oughta do it somewhere you can see yourself staying, or do without. or so the logic goes
asciilifeform: revisiting upstack, the other side of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1734943 medal -- asciilifeform's ancestors, had fruit trees. but asciilifeform does not get to have fruit trees, and it makes him slightly sadder. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i say tis all in teh relationships. otherwise, ownership is illusory.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 02:36 asciilifeform: unlikely to get this level of service from orc landlord, unless you're mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1734932 << landlady at one place bought me proper showerheads on her own initiative during her own trip to teh civilised world. ☝︎