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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re ru -- also looked into. has certain problems (planet's most fascist customs; and chinese-style 'national firewall' among'em) but dunno how relevant in practice, a local with good social engineering acumen could prolly finesse, to some degree. (problem is that we aint got one such)
asciilifeform walked coupla 100 km in timis & bucharest , in <week
asciilifeform: usa is the 1 place where folx go around in motorized fatchairs errywhere
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: eh, that's in erry orcistan
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 19:53:18 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938406 << in positive news, this is possibly the best thing for a human. each year with >500 miles on the odometer under age 50 adds 6 months of ~mobile~ life after age 70.
BingoBoingo suspects Montevideo has forever spoiled BingoBoingo on the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-27#1938739 axis
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ro was to at least host the fiatola-interface end of the affair (rather than machines) at that pt.
asciilifeform bungled the expedition and still owes mp_en_viaje coin
BingoBoingo: Only one site in Serbia responded to the initial solicitation and failed to follow up
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: back in '17 when dulap-I crater was still smoking , asciilifeform wanted to try ro . but mp_en_viaje said that it was poor site, and i'm inclined to think that he had good reason to say this.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho we oughta try e.g. 2nd pipe, before airlift to ambodia. cheaper.
BingoBoingo: And doesn't change their lack of response to inquiries
BingoBoingo: Not Equinix, but indistinguishable to my eyes
asciilifeform: aa, these.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In the second scrubbing of Asia, they advertised datacenters turned out to be NTT, an international thing
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: outta curiosity, didja in fact discover that a dc exists in cambodia ?!
BingoBoingo as he waits a few more minutes for the rain to stop before taking a walk anyway feels he has to interject that at least Cambodia's Soviet wears a uniform advertising his Sovietness
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-05 01:47:24 BingoBoingo: hasn't given thought to an alternate universe where Cambodians respond to commercial inquiries in at least a year
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940483 << iirc last go around BingoBoingo found that asia has laffably narrow pipe to rest of planet. ( which makes a sort of sense, when's the last time you reached for a www on a vietnamese box ? chinese ? )
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-05 01:38:54 BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Criteria 1 was no nato, russia, or china. Asia sucked and charged incredibly for international conenctivity. Africa is Africa. Inside Latam the options with independently owned datacenters were Brasil and Uruguay. Brasil's paperwork culture appeared even more soviet than Uruguay's with additional visa/residency hoops.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940481 << the basic headache with these seems to be that to distinguish sane from batshit pipe provider requires to bake a BingoBoingo , populate a rack, and run for yr+
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-05 01:27:12 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i suppose the next step is to go through the list of ixps see where you can sit.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940478 << it's been 2+y since the last dig. there's gotta be ~something~ resembling competition, at the level below the orcish national thing. ( fwiw the dc routing cabinet was a glass item and there were defo several groups of panels in it, hanging off what seems like physically distinct fibers to street )
BingoBoingo: A number of Hong Kong operations ended up appearing to be the same operation, while another's major branding was hosted software for the Chinese laundry industry.
BingoBoingo hasn't given thought to an alternate universe where Cambodians respond to commercial inquiries in at least a year
BingoBoingo: Some insane criteria lead Amazon to announce a future Argentine datacenter this week https://archive.is/s0809
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Criteria 1 was no nato, russia, or china. Asia sucked and charged incredibly for international conenctivity. Africa is Africa. Inside Latam the options with independently owned datacenters were Brasil and Uruguay. Brasil's paperwork culture appeared even more soviet than Uruguay's with additional visa/residency hoops.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 17:48:11 asciilifeform: ( evidently somewhere do exist 'serious adult' carriers, i.e. where mp_en_viaje parks his box. but for some reason he sent BingoBoingo to uy, and not to there )
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i suppose the next step is to go through the list of ixps see where you can sit.
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/10/wednesday-in-wien/ << The Whet -- Wednesday in Wien
mp_en_viaje: but you also can't continue in this vein, what, whenever random internet dork sends half a quarter of an eight gbps your way you're croaked for the evening ? tis ridoinculous.
mp_en_viaje personally has no intention of pulling the plug over diana_coman 's inability to do smg work today because of this for instance ;
mp_en_viaje: it's not like ~you~ did it , you know. take it easy.
BingoBoingo: Thank you. I guess I'm going to have to do the only things I can right now. 1. eat some food 2. Take a walk, etc and try to have burned more calories in activity today than stress 3. Go to sleep sober
mp_en_viaje: kinda the wisdom of not doing that.
mp_en_viaje: problem is that after you sent the previous yokel text, there's nothing that you can say to deyokel self.
mp_en_viaje: so far the situation here is that you stumbled on the cable and took half a day to plug it back in. got anything that can actually move us past this ?
mp_en_viaje: on any kind of radar, i feel like an idiot showing people a trival example of a saturated pipe and pretending like they should be impressed.
mp_en_viaje: nevermind questions. 1. i am stuck with customers correctly pointing out that my uptime this month will ~maybe~ reach two nines. it'll be a wonder if this outage doesn't put me entirely out of business. 2. do you have any actual substantial anything to point to, because brandishing about "hostile" and "attack" and etcetera empty wordage isn't doing anything for me. in particular 20mbps for a few minutes doesn't even register
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 21:34:03 mp_en_viaje: "either you get your shit together or i move on, pick exactly one."
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Thank you. I am wondering if there's any questions I missed short of going straight to http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940463
mp_en_viaje: 3. What carriers run fiber to the datacenter? I would like to know what all the connectivity options available are. << dawg ffs, i showed you them.
mp_en_viaje: "either you get your shit together or i move on, pick exactly one."
mp_en_viaje: "I would like to know what options are available going forward" is about 500 words too many for the simple concept of
mp_en_viaje: the reason i asked about the graphs was because, eg, "Oscar helpfully shared graphs showing particular IP addresses being hit with substantial, apparently hostile incoming traffic with targeted at a few IPs in the IP range." is entirely false.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, if you're gonna send as is anyway, why the fyuck am i reading it
mp_en_viaje: so basically, 20mbps sustained over... looks like 10 minutes or so = too much ?
asciilifeform goes to eat, bbl.
asciilifeform: ftr this is longest dulap outage since dulap-I was blackbagged.
asciilifeform has to go eat soon
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: didja send that reply or still waiting for sumthing ?
BingoBoingo: I have no idea what te vertical represents
asciilifeform: presently i suspect that we would not have even ~noticed~ this nonsense if they hadn't unplugged
asciilifeform: 2nd pic dun look like any kinda ddos at all, simply saturated incoming pipe, happens erry single time anyone uploads a coupla GB of db dump or whatnot
BingoBoingo: Sarcasm with respect to the graph's utility may have been a bit too subtle
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in what units is the vertical in the 1st pic ?
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I did not post the graphs yet, will post
mp_en_viaje: wtf is "apparently hostile", what gave the appearance ? was it the coloring ? something else ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ^ can haz these plox ?
mp_en_viaje: Oscar helpfully shared graphs showing particular IP addresses being hit << were these in here and i missed ?
asciilifeform: i've had industrial pipes cut out for whole biz day on acct of backhoe. but this aint a backhoe, backhoes make some sorta sense. this dun make sense.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and we'll have to credit subscribers for the lost time. with substantial adjustment.
asciilifeform: this was ( and continues, dulap still dead ) a maddeningly sovokesque experience, where we pay vendor for fish 'that's what they don't have at the fish counter' but short of borrowing mp_en_viaje's freighter and laying own fiber i can't presently think of a final solution to it
asciilifeform: unless mp_en_viaje contributes an idea for moar bite, let's send this.
asciilifeform: ffs BingoBoingo . does that looklike a 'NO NULLROUTES' and 'PLUG IT THE FUCK BACK IN' to you ?
BingoBoingo: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=maNq << Second draft reflecting the receipt of the offer for a firewall phone call
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: erry letter to latech, starting with this 1, oughta start with equiv of 'NO NULLROUTE FOR ANY REASON' omfgalready
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> what's a firewall gonna do in this context ?! << I have no idea wtf a firewall is supposed to do against an inbound DDoS
lobbes: in other lulz, my VPS that hosted the old #e logs is finally back up; connectolade city
lobbes: asciilifeform, heh I saw. Though I'm just a customer; I'll respect BB's wishes if he wants to ban naked joins for the time being
asciilifeform: it's sitting in all 6 chans, too
ericbot: (asciilifeform) 2019-10-04 baitbot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 0d 2h 8m
asciilifeform: lobbes: the cloaks thing is 100% red herring, i have a deliberate bait running for 2+h nao naked, and 0 floods
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-04 21:23:32 BingoBoingo: !Q later tell lobbes You seem to have a naked bouncer running on your Rockchip. Let me know how you want to move forward with getting the machine back online.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940398 << this would be auctionbot. I dun presently have a cloak for it, so feel free to just kill the process (it is running in sbcl) and that should prevent any naked joins. I can move bot to a non-piz box in the interim
mp_en_viaje: was their concern that your boxes were catching on fire ?
mp_en_viaje: what's a firewall gonna do in this context ?!
asciilifeform: omfgholufuq the idiocy. what 'firewall' . the only ddos problem we have is THEM!!
lobbes coming live from a fresh ZNC install on another box... goes to catch up on logs
BingoBoingo: I also just received http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=4nFG "We can have a call next Monday, if that is OK with your schedule. We think that a firewall will help you with this type of problems."
BingoBoingo: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=MHHw << Here is a draft of what I have so far to send. asciilifeform mp_en_viaje I would like your input. Please let me know if anything is missing.
BingoBoingo going to keep compiling the pointed questions
asciilifeform: i'ma take a walk an' come back.
BingoBoingo: I keep playing this fucking game of telephone with Latecho/Antel
asciilifeform: what's the answr to the 2nd half ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Duplap and three Rockchips including mine are left in the cold atm.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: is dulap the last 1 left in the cold ? what's the obstacle to gettin' it plugge in atm ?
BingoBoingo: We can put to rest the idea that was done in a completely automated way corresponding cleanly to joins
asciilifeform: so BingoBoingo , can put that hypothesis to rest finally ?
asciilifeform: hrm, lemme put it in all the usual chans & reset.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm starting to suspect that your theory re irc bots dun hold water
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Q later tell lobbes You seem to have a naked bouncer running on your Rockchip. Let me know how you want to move forward with getting the machine back online.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Q later tell billymg You seem to have a naked bouncer running on your Rockchip. Let me know how you want to move forward with getting the machine back online.
asciilifeform: http://thewhet.net appears to load. hanbot can write that article nao...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm working on putting together a draft for that. Before I send it, I will paste it in channel because I would like serious feedback to make sure I am putting the right questions and pressure on them.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: can you drive through the thick heads that 'getting ddos' aint a violation of the service terms, and that the fuckers are obligated to provide service, on whatever level available ?! what is this nullrouting bullshit anyway?
BingoBoingo: I suspect 1. blip in Pizarro network causes big batch of IRC reconnects, 2. Pretext to walk IPs emerges, hitting ips from /join messages during window
asciilifeform: it is difficult to argue with his example. his box -- stays up.