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asciilifeform: now, a twist : you don't necessarily need a pyongyang. can instead use network of decisive men with smaller repeaters...
asciilifeform: ( and possibly even moar +ev for opponent, to ~outbid~ than to jam, per-joule )
asciilifeform: betcha auctioning the bandwidth (supposing you're already in the 'fortressing' business and have the tower) is moar +ev, joule-per-joule , than mining.
asciilifeform: e.g. 'send coin to addr A, then wotpaste payload signed with originator addr, and yer 64kB chunk is on the air within 24hrs or we send coin back. signed, yours, kim chen ir'
asciilifeform: i'd be quite surprised if this happened and then the transmitter wasn't booked 24/7.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 08:37 mircea_popescu: that the fucktards stubbornly refuse to do it speaks to the fucktards' utterly incredible fucktardation, not to how hard it is to get.
asciilifeform: incidentally re : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735809 << e.g. pyongyang, or teheran, or any other 'fortress' could easily make btc by transmitting arbitrary bits on shortwave, for coin ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'The signal has a very subtle sound and, if not for the 3-click/delay format, would be indistinguishable from nature's own spark transmitter, distant lighting.'
asciilifeform: '...storage capacitor holds 0.2 watt-seconds of energy... about 90%, 720,000 peak watts, delivered to the antenna... might be heard world-wide, but I don't know that for a fact... while total power in the pulses might be impressive, it's an extremely wideband signal - much less power is present on any particular, say 5 kHz, channel. In other words, the sparker is sending a very crude form of spread spectrum'
mircea_popescu: in other minutia, i'm holding up this well worn pair of cuffs, with red candlewax stains, and i'm thinking.... didn't i buy some pink candles too ?
asciilifeform: ( link in the l0gz somewhere )
asciilifeform: on the shitcoin markets, a 'fork token' or what was it, denominated in heathenbux, fell from 1000s to 100, but then repumped
mircea_popescu: but what is "back to 300" ?>
asciilifeform: pictured item appears to be 'phorq uncancelled!' then few hrs later 'haha, idjits'
asciilifeform: i can picture the wagner, the cyanide, of the handful of gullible folx. might explain the 'back to 300' last night.
asciilifeform: 'We just forked the website ! We didn't mean to fork Bitcoin, thats a lot of work ;)'
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/jsm-bomba-de-costa-rica/ << Trilema - JSM, Bomba de Costa Rica
mircea_popescu: in teh middle of a volcano, ruining everyone's shit an' having tea.
mircea_popescu: yeah. /me and the tree of wisdom.
asciilifeform: it is, with the baobab or whatever that thing is in the americas
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, isn't that one of the better headers ?
asciilifeform: oh hah there's at least 1 actual building in cr !
asciilifeform: ( hence the warning in the fg docs )
asciilifeform: it would even make sense if order was 'make'em all install this here new winblowz turd'. but iirc 2303x did not even ~offer~ a winturd.
mircea_popescu: if the dumb shoe fits...
mircea_popescu: if neighbour's excavator grinds my azaleas, ima not gonna scream at the ~operator~
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but who was managing them ?
asciilifeform: ( and i must sadly note, they will ~continue~ to ship with FG units, unless someone wants to suggest a different chip )
mircea_popescu: so this is the whole point here, asciilifeform : the "obvious why it's enjoyable" is this retroconstructive subjective conceit. no, it's not fucking obvious. at all. why would you think it is.
asciilifeform: well to be fair pl2303x is prolly a work of d00dz in 20s
mircea_popescu: just like if you're still wetting the bed by blair's years.
mircea_popescu: youth somewhat compensates, but if you're still doing it past your 20s there's mental retardation involved.
a111: Logged on 2014-02-17 19:21 asciilifeform: russian blogger, circa '04: 'have you ever beaten a man? had you done so, you would know that it is hard work. no less arduous than turning a meat-grinder. how often do you wake up to the urge to crank a meat-grinder? every day?'
mircea_popescu: ~same thing, more tnt concentration.
asciilifeform: but it isn't a wholly martian thing, where 'why would anyone' question arises
mircea_popescu: spolier : /me spent youth doing ~equivalent, it's incredibly fucking tedious. not specifically "wallets", but, load up car with weaponry and decisive men, visit rural "disco club", scandalously hit on "their" gals.
asciilifeform: i will admit to not having tried it.
asciilifeform: sure, but at least it is clear how beating folx on the street with a club and taking their wallets might be enjoyable
mircea_popescu: understand something : the petty criminal holding you up didn't "find it necessary". petty crime comes with built-in, very lowly set high-pass filter. you have to be THIS fucking dumb to think petty crime is a productive use of your time, and consequently the bar for "necessity" isn't anywhere close to mathematical rigour.
asciilifeform: the '64bitness' is red herring, my 16550 uarts worked ok under msdos 5 and work just same today
asciilifeform: what isn't clear to me tho is why the perpetrator found it necessary to commit this atrocity
asciilifeform: 'The PL-2303X has the same vendor ID and product ID as the older PL-2303, which means that it will be incorrectly detected as a PL-2303 by the driver currently in the Linux kernel. Attempting to use a PL-2303X as a PL-2303 simply results in an inability to transfer data through the serial port. In other words, nothing happens.'
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 15:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735820 << because everyone's preoccupation in fiatlands is how to force people to "upgrade". cars, serial chips, whatever.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 15:11 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735837 << boys go to war or go away ; also, nobody asks you to sell your bitcoin. sell the worthless things, such as tits, not the valuable things.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735903 << ftr asciilifeform has never yet sold ( in the trade-for-fiatolade sense ) any qty of bitcoin . ☝︎
asciilifeform: i dun think i dreamed it. it was somewhere.
asciilifeform: tangentially, asciilifeform has this strong recollection of reading a version where xerx whipped the sea ~as a psyop~, and meanwhile had men crossing elsewhere. but i can't seem to find this in herodotus. so where was it ?
asciilifeform: dunno, people - esp. the very dim -- have quite strong ability to 'animate the inanimate' and e.g. declare 'war on $substance' etc
mircea_popescu: which is why being hated and the force of gravity don't elicit the same emotional response in humans.
mircea_popescu: ("washing off" here has a very strict art meaning -- "i'm the object, not the subject" is the strongest psychological defense yet devised by the human brain.)
mircea_popescu: worse. it's always better to be raped than trapped, the former washes off.
asciilifeform: i suppose being condemned to wish forever it were 2010, is nearly as good a hell as to be stuck in actual 2010
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 19:32 ang-st: well i have some not to be release numbers that would prove you wrong :)
mircea_popescu: if you ever take up bitcoin, you'll find to your surprise it's not that different!
asciilifeform: * forgot to return a tool
asciilifeform: reminds me, asciilifeform dreamed at night that he had a time travel widget, but used it strictly to go back in time to now-defunct labs he worked in, to borrow tools. but one time forgot to return ! and was trapped, forever, in a loop, consisting of lunch break among technodetritus.
mircea_popescu: the low level problem of just how idiotically superficial her arguments were paling in comparison to the incomprehensible levels of confusion involved in "i'll fix amphora, problem with it is that it has a hole" and other fundamental miscomprehensions of function.
asciilifeform: iirc it was Framedragger with the hard
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that mysticalname whatsherface chick from tor that trinque has a hard-on on at some point wrote a "scholarly" (in the wikitardia sense of the term) article about how girl armor displayed in mmorpgs and bad hbo franchises "wouldn't work".
mircea_popescu: as far as i'm concerned, engaging in a "fixing" of the nature of "cut branch underfoot" is a very strong signal of idiocy.
mircea_popescu: well, good thing the "feminist" retards that don't understand anything ABOUT ANYTHING! (paging here Framedragger ) "fixed" the problem of girl armor in cc-mmorpgs!
mircea_popescu: the part that's incomprehensible is why the fuck the content-consumption mmorpg isn't all about tits
mircea_popescu: (play is VERY different from content consumption, the latter is a bovine activity well suited to philosophers and girls of room temp iq while the former is the principal activity of the kitten.)
mircea_popescu: for the purely visual, "let's play movie" non-game content-consuming thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform definitely. tho i did enjoy say rift.
asciilifeform: ( fwiw asciilifeform never played 'normal' mmporgs , but has a vague notion that even there, people eventually made bots )
mircea_popescu: there's a lot to be yet said on the mystical value of rsa. take a "prime" - purely mystical concept, it literally means "was not seen before, virginal." "repetitions can not FOR THAT REASON ever be prime" and so on.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 15:19 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735853 << eulora is a very different kind of game ; not wow at all. it's not cocaine for the clickchicken, keep it glued to the screen clucking away ; it's amphetamine for the thinker, "shit how to make a bot that properly does this".
asciilifeform: aa lol this is the mirrorolade thing again
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think :D
mircea_popescu: ^ incidentally not idle number theory question
mircea_popescu: "which is the count of repetitions before string x becomes prime number"
mircea_popescu: iirc there was an isprime implemented, now i'm curious re 13371337 and similarily appended-1337-strings whether prime or not
asciilifeform: sorta like the vanity btc addrs thing.
asciilifeform: anyway i agree with mircea_popescu , there is no reason to have any of this in the moving gears. who wants a 'text commented e', can take his text, find nextprime(text) himself in such a way that it still human-reads, and use that.
asciilifeform: ( if your e is already prime, nothing interesting happens. but if someone insists of making a text 'part of the key', he can stuff it into the e )
asciilifeform: this would let whoever wants put 'hello world' etc as the e. and if do not want, to do exactly same thing we already discussed.
asciilifeform: actually , the way i'd implement the thing , is to not change the format in any way, other than a condition that 1) e can be any 4096b string 2) but if it fails m-r, nextprime(e) is used as e
asciilifeform: if ~not~ hashing, then it theoretically meets the condition ( for so long as the comment is permitted to be binary garbage if it wants )
asciilifeform: well specifically then
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 16:39 asciilifeform: also gotta show that no prime exists , in the given bitness width, that CANNOT be chosen.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 16:38 asciilifeform: in particular, gotta show that no two inputs will produce the same prime
mircea_popescu: possibly too narrow.
asciilifeform: notion was, why not make e := nextprime(contents of hole) . naturally hole would be (4096 bits) or (up to 4096 bits), take yer pick
mircea_popescu: it is part of the moving parts, "there is a hole here". what one fills it with is his problem, but the hole is.
mircea_popescu: in any case : now that we understand the bitcoi nnoide problem, we can't be excused from implementing it like satoshi did. so : no arbitrary comment field of unspecified size "everyone has to keep" arbitrary to originator.
asciilifeform: so imho if comment is not part of the moving parts ( as in say the proposed exponent scheme above ) then there's no particular reason to mention it in the spec
asciilifeform: well anyone can attach labels to outside of the bottle in his own shelf, regardless of what gets put in the spec
mircea_popescu: perfectrly fine for my key via deedbot and via say your putative deedbot` to come with different comments.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in my spec the comment in e, N, comment is arbitrary ~to storer~, not to originator.
asciilifeform: but this is imho muchly a matter of taste.
asciilifeform: and (m,comment) is shorter, in principle, than (m,e,comment) .
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735920 << may or may not want to bother, but it does give a method of protocolically tying the comment (postage whatever) string to the pubkey , without pretense of 'self-signatures' or anything of the kind ☝︎
mircea_popescu: just when i was starting to think, you know, i have a serious sex-race issue "white or mulatto but nothing else" it turns out that there exists palatable nonwhiteness.
mircea_popescu: pretty hawt, tbh.\
asciilifeform: or at the very least sunburns.
asciilifeform: i also thought it was from red paste or the like
mircea_popescu: i had thought it's a movie prop, but apparently no, can has irl.
asciilifeform: well nao , after tea, and when rubbed in my face -- i see, lel
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it's actually IN the pasted material; that nbits/2 , lol