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cazalla: blem-for-entrepreneur-living-in-
a-van/article25982115/
mircea_popescu: anyway, if anyone got
a github account, leave
a link to this convo on there, curious if sipa/anyone groks wtf's going on.
mircea_popescu: but anyway - the fucking magic number should have been in block headers not in
a c file.
mircea_popescu:
a noob saved
a word ("who would need 1000000 repeated each block!!!") and in the process made the design much dumber.
mircea_popescu: only sane way to have
a data struct is if it begins with "hello, this is
a struct, will take no more than x of your space kthx"
☟︎ punkman: why have
a bytecount in the block?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck looks at
a list and goes "
a it's ok, don't need header referencing the size, why would you."
mircea_popescu: (why the blocks were designed to not contain
a summary bytecount of their own variable content i nthe first place is yet another example of the "satoshi was not much of
a designer" thing)
mircea_popescu: irrespective of what "the very talented" "core developers" think, this will not be
a simple or easy change. it will require
a lot of touching,
mircea_popescu: it'd have to look
a lot more like the above than like anything i've seen,
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but, if
a solution to this problem, admitting it is
a problem, and admitting
a solution can be had, is to be had,
Adlai:
a constant is
a lot less state that max(constant * average, variable)
mircea_popescu: but it horribru or not horribru -
a) we are currently keeping state, just, as
a constant and b) there is no way to make pie-in-the-sky arbitrary values work.
mircea_popescu: that's the biggest problem with it, it introduces
a state.
Adlai: or does this have
a "memory"
mircea_popescu: (in case it wasn't obvious - this wouldn't allow
a decrease of blocksize. increase only)
mircea_popescu: there has not yet been as much as
a signle day of straight full blocks.
punkman: but yes this might be
a sort of sane way to handle block size
mircea_popescu:
a function that, after each retarget, allows blocks as large as say 1.01x the average actual size of the blocks in the 2k batch for instance.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "Attempting to buy time with
a fast increase is not wanting to face that reality, and treating the system as something whose scale trumps all other concerns.
A long term scalability plan should aim on decreasing the need for trust required in off-chain systems, rather than increasing the need for trust in Bitcoin." etc
punkman: "It implements
a series of block size steps, one every ~97 days, between January 2017 and July 2063, each increasing the maximum block size by 4.4%. This allows an overall growth of 17.7% per year. "
punkman: "“Not everything is for everyone and that’s the way it is,” he said, teeth gleaming indifferently. His theories about shoes were tinged, predictably, with
a seeming misogyny. They come, he insisted, with
a great deal of “sexual energy” – which is perhaps just as well, as the only thing it’s possible to do in
a pair of his heels is lie down."
punkman: "
A mischievous fellow who counts among his friends the queen of Bhutan and Catherine Deneuve, Louboutin has perfected the art of the glacial smile when faced with awkward ethical questions. What does he make, for instance, of the fact that in India,
a market into which he is expanding, there are lots of people who own no shoes at all?"
ShawnLeary: you can become
a VIP Donator with
a small gift of 50 BTC to theymos
ben_vulpes: i'd dearly love
a css pass on logs.bitcoin-assets to colorize by speaker and with
a mobile breakpoint
assbot: You rated user lobbes on 06-Feb-2015, with
a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: #eulora logs bot.
assbot: Adam Back on Twitter:.@twobitidiot someone mentioned hypothetical: if you lost your Bitcoins as
a result of Gavin network split - would you hold him accountable? : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1TMuPqj )
trinque: shinohai | ;;later tell trinque got the script to tun, fails to compile BxImage:
https://transfer.sh/rkCI7/genkernel.log << that oddly is
a failure building the kernel, which is unexpected and should not be gentoo-specific
BingoBoingo: "This version is indistinguishable from Bitcoin XT 0.11A except that it will not actually hard fork to BIP101, yet appears on the p2p network as Bitcoin XT 0.11A replete with features, yet at
a consensus level behaves just like Bitcoin Core 0.11. If it is used to mine, it will produce XT block versions without actually supporting >1MB blocks."
mats: if only 'satoshi' went to the effort of signing
a message with an addr from his hoard
mircea_popescu: "Imagine that happened when they thought they had 75% but actually only 10%..." <<< no need to imagine anything. simply recall the event
a few weeks ago when they who thought they had 90% actually had <40%.
mats: that sounds even more difficult to sell than
a n-day exploit
mats: lol it appears based on those Cohen tweets that weev has
a sensible position on the fork
punkman: cohen is
a king among the autists
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i dun have vlc on this machine and i don't usually care enough to check some vid on
a dirty box
mircea_popescu: the b-
a node could do this since forever, if anytone gave
a shit to bother.
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assbot: Logged on 08-09-2014 22:35:52; mircea_popescu: "Thank you for this clarification Mr. Nakamoto. It has been an honor to be labeled by my friends as "Satoshi's Drunk Uncle" and it's
a moniker I'll wear proudly until the day I retire from Crypto. The Goldcoin (GLD) developers truly admire your work and strive to continue improving upon its design as
a tribute to your unparallelled genius. Your admirer and relative in spirit, MicroGuy."
mircea_popescu: let gavinhearn come out with
a "hey it's notrly satoshi" first.
assbot: And Gavin moves on to the dark side. The Bitcoin project is officially hijacked on Trilema -
A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1MvB8Kx )
btcdrak: yeah reddit is
a mess atm.
mircea_popescu: obviously all i see in there is "Hearn is
a shitstain, MP is right, fuck reddit. Love, Satoshi". but that'd be me.
mircea_popescu: If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what "Bitcoin" is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through the use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoin
a failed project. Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and socially robust. This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold.
mircea_popescu: l problem, and we should take more time to come up with
a robust solution. I suspect we need
a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism.
mircea_popescu: They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed to be. However I acknowledge that
a lot has changed since that time, and new knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions. For example I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security of the network. Making Bitcoin
a competitive monetary system while also preserving its security properties is not
a trivia
mircea_popescu: hi Nakamoto. Nearly everyone has to agree on
a change, and they have to do it without being forced or pressured into it. By doing
a fork in this way, these developers are violating the "original vision" they claim to honour.
mircea_popescu: The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original vision, but nothing could be further from the truth. When I designed Bitcoin, I designed it in such
a way as to make future modifications to the consensus rules difficult without near unanimous agreement. Bitcoin was designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, even if their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satos
mircea_popescu: I have been following the recent block size debates through the mailing list. I had hoped the debate would resolve and that
a fork proposal would achieve widespread consensus. However with the formal release of Bitcoin XT 0.11A, this looks unlikely to happen, and so I am forced to share my concerns about this very dangerous fork.
pete_dushenski: "I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security of the network. Making Bitcoin
a competitive monetary system while also preserving its security properties is not
a trivial problem, and we should take more time to come up with
a robust solution. I suspect we need
a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism."
pete_dushenski: "Up for an adventure but can’t decide where to go? This app randomly picks
a top bar on Yelp, picks you up in an Uber and takes you there — without you knowing the destination."
pete_dushenski: "Bar Roulette uses the Yelp and Uber APIs to find
a place to go and doesn’t tell you until you arrive. It’s one of the first cool integrations I’ve seen using the Uber API that I’d want to try out."
pete_dushenski: "Bar Roulette uses the Yelp and Uber APIs to find
a place to go and doesn’t tell you until you arrive. It’s one of the first cool integrations I’ve seen using the Uber API that I’d want to try out."
mircea_popescu: it makes money like "i'm going to be
a star" makes money.
mircea_popescu:
a week at least, with dedicated servers and ips, derp's been derping.
pete_dushenski: "Hilarious and inspirational, You're Never Weird on the Internet (Almost) is proof that everyone should embrace what makes them different and be brave enough to share it with the world, because anything is possible now - even for
a digital misfit. "
pete_dushenski: "
a funny, quirky, and inspiring memoir from online entertainment mogul, actress, and "queen of the geeks" Felicia Day about her unusual upbringing, her rise to Internet stardom, and embracing her individuality to find success in Hollywood. "
jurov: uf, how and when i got
a "particularly promising branch criterion"?
jurov: Hearn has in the past been
a consistent advocate for having more Bitcoin users pushed onto less reliable SPV wallets instead of fully validating Bitcoin nodes,
a move that // something missing here? // in an environment with substantially larger blocks and
a higher orphaned block rate.
fluffypony: then they're two steps away from being
a Monero clone, goddamn altcoins
fluffypony: punkman: I don't have
a problem with
a very conservative dynamic increase over time, bearing in mind that my baseline is "can I run
a node on an entry-level South African DSL line"
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: The maximum size shall be 8,000,000 bytes at
a timestamp of 2016-01-11 00:00:00 UTC (timestamp 1452470400), and shall double every 63,072,000 seconds (two years, ignoring leap years), until 2036-01-06 00:00:00 UTC (timestamp 2083190400). The maximum size of blocks in between doublings will increase linearly based on the block's timestamp. The maximum size of blocks after 2036-01-06 00:00:00 UTC shall be 8,192,000
shinohai: ^ "I declare
a 25 BTC bounty to the first pool that will mine
a block with Bitcoin ХT."
ben_vulpes: drinking myself into bed during
a death march weekend
cazalla: but i continue to use google so bit of
a hypocrit in doing so
pete_dushenski: #1 : "that's
a great question little girl. what face would've kept my husband from messing around with that fatty lewinsky ? this one !"
ben_vulpes: i try to only use it as
a scripting language for my 'editor'
phf: i remember
a bar in old san juan, and their bar food selection consisted of
a spicy soup and oysters. i'm pretty sure those were best oysters i've had