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funkenstein_: trinque, lol i wonder what whoever made the poster was trying to tell us.. with the choice of uncle sam
funkenstein_: http://i.imgur.com/oVHUpPy.jpg
lobbes: ascii_field: probably would just be easier to have scoopbot do it, but I got lobbesbot reading Phuctor's rss feed. If you feel inclined, give him a rate and I'll set him up to announce.
mod6: So this is interesting: I was able to use my gcc patch successfully against my AWS instance which has an AMI that utilizes a stage3-uclibc-hardened from 20150510. And meanwhile, trinque was helping me test to ensure I'm not doing something totally retarded, and on his side he was using the Physical hardware steps where it says to pull the latest (which should be 20150610) stage3-uclibc-hardened.
ascii_field: also didn't i give example arguments in ml ?
ascii_field: as i understand, it was meant for 'indoor' nodes
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: i'm a derp and used "connect" instead of "addnode"
mircea_popescu: and i thought you were kidding fml
mircea_popescu: i pay 0.1!
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla can i has http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/eulora-bitbet.jpg banner on bitbet linked to http://trilema.com/cutekittens/buysellads.php?i=1 plox ?
asciilifeform: at ever more negative interest rates, and you will have to go on lowering them, because if you don't I might cut down on my gambling and crash the financial system again. If you agree to these terms, then you might as well also give away your wallet and your car keys—just to see what happens.'
asciilifeform: 'The rate would like to go negative, but it can't. Because, you know, that's the kind of debt even I wouldn't turn down (by the way, I don't have any debt). It's the kind of debt where you give me your money, and then you keep paying me periodically to hold on to it, or spend it, or gamble it away—that's none of your business—until forever, because I have no intention of ever paying you back; I'll just keep rolling it over
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you in reasonable advance when to cancel it.
fluffypony: ok looks like it'll be a subscription, so it's 50 EUR/month that comes off PP automagically till I cancel it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform looks like i'm going to have a (full chain) bitcoin up in a coupla days.
cazalla: mail serv on same ip as qntra because i dont see it in any ban lists yet
mircea_popescu: well, i deleted > 50k messages from queue, the email in question, and hopefully gmail, yahoo and everyone else will at some point forget the fact that i spammed them to shit for the first time in my life.
cazalla: i might've used something weak when creating it but again, it's not something i do so i don't really know what else to say
cazalla: not much new in backups i've made so no new php files http://dpaste.com/1NNK6CK.txt
mircea_popescu: i dunno how i'd make sure of such a thing.
cazalla: nor do i have a passwords.txt sitting on the desktop
cazalla: you'd wanna make sure because i don't, and have not, created my own passwords for some time
mircea_popescu: a) no and b) actually, my server is sending email because somehow someoine signs in as info@qntra and i naively faield to disallow qntra account from sending email
mircea_popescu: you think i keep all that ?
mircea_popescu: i dun have your pws.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, http://i.imgur.com/KjnyoQA.png 8000 or so of those beginning june 14th
ag3nt_zer0: I should probably just keep digging, but in reading the logs dated late 2013 I see concerns raised that another bubble is fine as long as it doesn't go to 1k... and this was not too long after people were getting warnings that btc wasn't worth more than $130... why was it bad for it to go to 1k or past, and given all this craziness, how do I deduce what would be a current fair price to make a relatively wise investment? I
mircea_popescu: i see june 22
cazalla: to the best of my knowledge i've not leaked the password
mircea_popescu: how did someone end up sending spam off qntra server is what i mean
pete_dushenski: i'm sure he'd appreciate it, if for no other reason than as a reminder than the usistan isn't alone in sucking.
cazalla: yeah, i never thought i'd see ham planets walking into costco with my own eyes.. i should snap some pics for BingoBoingo
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 03:11:09; Hasimir: the problem I have with the rarity of black swans is they nest in the lake across the road every spring ...
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: does the node have to be synced already to join the partay ? i have a 0.7.2 at 222'868
ben_vulpes: mats: i do it just to annoy you
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000101.html << well since this thermonuked node refuses to attach to any others, i may as well roll this patch in
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if i'd like to bootstrap a thermonuke off your previously mentioned node, do i need whitelisting?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aw i was going to cut that one out meself
Vexual: i dont see it
thestringpuller: so i'm on this 1000 calorie deficit diet which requires me to burn an extra 1000 calories a day. damn this shit is no joke.
mod6: as soon as I can, i'll be sure to patch everything in the order specified and kick off a full regression cycle.
asciilifeform: btw i will note (in case this wasn't clear) that i test-fire everything i post
mod6: i've read the patches and ben's review on his blog. i'll be writing up a summary of my own in the SoBA at the end of the month.
mod6: im hoping I can figure something out with gcc tomorrow. if I don't get anywhere, perhaps time to cut bait and head in a different direction.
asciilifeform: i would like to ask the fine gentlemen to read this and the antecedents (ben_vulpes has a pretty good review on his www)
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 03:11:09; Hasimir: the problem I have with the rarity of black swans is they nest in the lake across the road every spring ...
mod6: ok weird. same exact error as last time after complete nuke. tomorrow i'll nuke again and see if gcc will compile without the patch.
ag3nt_zer0: ok. but I am under the impression that at the core of traditionalism are simply metaphysical absolutes... for instance, "the greater cannot proceed from the lesser" - there is one absolute source, be it languaged in a number of ways, etc...
mircea_popescu: i imagine that's gavin's wet dream, if anything.
ag3nt_zer0: but i understand that it is used to analyze financial information, particularly in markets
ag3nt_zer0: what am i talking, yes I do
ag3nt_zer0: can't say that I formally do
Hasimir: the problem I have with the rarity of black swans is they nest in the lake across the road every spring ... ☟︎☟︎
ag3nt_zer0: no, but due to reading something you wrote I have started the black swan
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: thanks for the response... I am confused about this: "and the fundamentally flawed proposition that for this reason, it is more important to interpret phenomena through history than through any other lens." -is this how traditionalist discourse treat phenomena? exclusively historically? and also: you say taleb can provide a damaging critique of traditionalism? May I kindly ask, whose? What authors/thinkers
mircea_popescu: post-post-structuralism is in no sense and to no degree a return to "Traditionalism", which is strictly distinct from the humanism the original structuralism was supposedly a reaction to. it is merely the observation of coexistence : the stupid generate their pseudo-meanings out of iteration, the smart (i've called these before language creators) have thei own dictionaries, the two categories interplay in praxis.
mod6: so if we get this one to work, i think that's our best/easiest path, currently.
mod6: so one of the reasons i'm being kidna hard-headed about 4.8.4; i'm worried that with a downlevel version such as 3.7 or whatever, that there might not even exist a set of patches (such as Gentoo/uclibc/PIE) that are required for Gentoo -- might be a whole seperate ball of wax & problems.
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 the entire thing started with the absolutely correct observation that words have i nfact no meanings, not anymore than any one website has google pagerank. a theoretical model was proposed where meaning of all words is produced through iteration, exactly in the same manner pr is calculated (and this is why google used to be notable - it implemented a major tenet of culture at the time)
mircea_popescu: mod6 i didn't know la serenissima had nukes :D
mod6: i'm gonna nuke that machine again and try to compile it again with the patch. see if it works. if not, i'll just see if it'll even compile gcc itself.
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: yeah ok, after looking up structuralism, I was just hung up on the idea that if humanism is constructed on erroneous principles, and is structuralism is a reaction to humanism... then its just doubly wayward...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1173058 << this is idealism. and a very idealistic definition to boot, wtf is "orientation towards". like, when i take a piss i'm orientated towards the urinal ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 23:24:56; ag3nt_zer0: trinque: well I had no idea what structuralism was but read something by mircer_popescu and at the end he said "welcome to the post-post- structuralist world that the internet has enabled" or something to that effect... that got me looking at structuralisma dn post structuralism and I was just confused because what I read was that structuralism was a reaction against humanism -and- tradition,, but as far
mod6: eh, guess i spoke too soon: my patch comiled in nicely... and much much later in the entire compile process gcc hangs on libcpp: http://dpaste.com/3XZH8PZ.txt
asciilifeform: ^ that's what i was talking about re: the deterministic build script
mod6: oh, and I keep hitting an additional problem aside from what the "gentoo sanitiy" resolves. i've been holding off submitting a patch for it until I can get this thing actually compiled and working.
mod6: (basically, I'm just saying those patches should have been included in my list above)
mod6: before we cut a new milestone, i'd like to have this sucker up and running on gentoo with uclibc & patched with the "gentoo sanity" patches as well.
mod6: oh hey, i think my patch built ok...
asciilifeform: again, i'm not about to fire it quite yet. probably needs another evening or two of massage.
mircea_popescu: i'm not going to not name something america because obama.
mod6: well, there isn't a previous version 5.4 -- stops after 5.3 and goes right to 6... so i guess that could work.
mod6: If we add in (officially the following): { Orphanage Thermonuke, TX Orphanage Amputation, { All DNS Thermonyukyooar Patches } }, I'd say that'd be a new milestone. And I'd propose to call it 0.5.3.2
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: yeah i am looking for alternatives that's why I asked about btc and ed... is this question a simple "where does the trust lie?"... btw you know those cuddle-puddle poddies they have all the students arranged in now? You know, the ingenious design that promotes cheating and distraction and love? Those are fucking MANDATORY in some districts... teachers couldn't sit them all facing forward if they wanted
mod6: The patch we got from that mailing list was from a different version for sure than 4.8.4 -- so i've had to hack it in by hand. gentoo is now applying the patch properly. and it's compiling as we speak. there is one caviat that I need to get over before I can test it though.
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/xDGYGZV.jpg << for all the people using cloud as a buzzword
mod6: asciilifeform: 1) don't have anything to add to this discussion atm. although, we can have it again if you like. 2) I don't have anything going atm; The working nodes (on deb6) are down because i'm working on the gentoo gcc stuff right now.
mod6: I am the liquor, bobandy.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: 2 items for consideration: 1) what version string is to be used in the first public therealbitcoin nodes? the current one doesn't seem appropriate 2) anyone have existing nodes (of whatever variety) to 'get a light' from? i'd prefer these to 'wild' mysterymeat
mircea_popescu: since we're making up numbers, i would say he needs to have at least 8megapercent support, or else his support won't scale.
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 23:01:12; ag3nt_zer0: so, if structuralism and post-structuralism are reactions against "traditional" humanism, and "tradition" in general (which seems untenable given that I see Traditonal metaphysics as opposed to humanism), would post-post-structuralism be pro-traditionalism to some degree?
thestringpuller: What's this bullshit I'm hearing Gavin has 75% (supermajority) support of "the community" on his stupid BIP?
mats: for the record i am not a reverse engineer, my interests are narrowly tailored to exploitation
ben_vulpes: i let my thermonuked node run all night, picked up not a single seed
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 19:07:18; ascii_field: which is, i suppose, as it should be. but means that: we need seeds.
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 19:07:07; ascii_field: i will remind readers that 'irc on butcher block' means a 100% reliance on seeds we enter in config. and also on specifying node's external ipv4.
trinque: the best crises are, I'm sure, a nice blend of irl and metaphysical destruction
trinque: I will say that the author's metaphysical end of the world may not be the only one transpiring
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: having read the foreward, looks interesting; I'll probably have it read in a few days
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> so maybe the "doesn't work" vs "worked 3 days ago" is simply that you ran yours for a day and ben_vulpes ran his for fifteen minutes. << it just strikes me as unlikely that a node is going to connect to precisely the room i'm in and then bless me with a usable IP addr
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: thanks, I'll put it in my queue to read
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: this is what's up my butt... maybe I am obsolete but my intellection seems to have plateaued here: http://tohno-chan.com/ddl/src/Rene_Guenon_-_The_Crisis_of_the_Modern_World.pdf
trinque: somewhat; though I will not tell the future students of the republic's university to do otherwise
trinque: I'm just a derpy guy with very little formal education.
trinque: and I tend to interpret it along those lines, rather than there actually existing some transcendental realm where concepts exist, dance about, generating meaning
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: more pointedly, I tend to assume that where someone makes broad generalizations about "being", they've actually given me a command
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: I see roughly what you're pointing at; what do you make of it?
trinque: I tend to be wary of systems that try to provide a taxonomy of human action
ag3nt_zer0: well I suppose one way to english the difference is that a traditional orientation would be vertical (upward, toward the absolute, what not), vs horizontal (man is measure of all things and human contentment and "happiness" main goals)