asciilifeform: nor is effective army a thing if he gets to cut.

asciilifeform: nor is 19 y.o. ru boi going to personally cut apart 'paint the snow piles white and grass green' from 'effective army'

asciilifeform: tru!

asciilifeform: i see cult as less of a religious mechanism and more of effective form of military organization. historically - misused.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you may have mistook the address, the 'let's pray to goddess of reason' folk are in the kako house

asciilifeform: in what sense is, say, mircea_popescu's terrarium, where six gurls spin on cock like a peculiarly inverted set of propellers of 6-engined junkers, not a 'cult of solid'.

asciilifeform: no reason why not with open eyes

asciilifeform: cult on something solid.

asciilifeform: so dun gods, problem solved.

asciilifeform: i never subscribed to 'cults' as being intrinsically wrong. they are only wrong when their gods don't actually exist.

asciilifeform: so doesn't worm in.

asciilifeform: i could even see an argument that 'screaming - you build a force field wall against, subtle - worms its way in' but mircea_popescu isn't sitting there with cheap beer watching industria argentina filmz, is he now.

asciilifeform: hey it beats the screamingly-idiotic

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i witnessed folk actually trying it at the range !

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for some reason i am reminded of 'gangsta pistol grip'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l!!

asciilifeform: even supposing the iron were...

asciilifeform: it is a great multilayered gag - what is even there to solder on component-side of pc mobo.

asciilifeform: where did this gem come from shinohai ??

asciilifeform: sizzzzzzzl

asciilifeform: holyshit waut

asciilifeform: prolly theatrical rifle made of plastic.

asciilifeform: because think, how heavy a fishing pole !

asciilifeform: from mircea_popescu's article

asciilifeform: i always liked this example

asciilifeform: 'take the rifle fishing' aha.

asciilifeform: this is problem.

asciilifeform: but no, it is not profession, nobody has ever been paid ~to do it~, any more than invention is profession.

asciilifeform: all i care is to get the schwartzes together so they can burn the world.

asciilifeform: i dun think in the language of demoocracy, and NEVER did, and these pieces are neither here nor there.

asciilifeform: again no.

asciilifeform: fuck pbs.

asciilifeform: nah but if folks with actual brainz got a hold of it - then ~possibly~ something.

asciilifeform: it dun go around or do nuffin'

asciilifeform: kinda the definition of dead

asciilifeform: problem is that it is dead !

asciilifeform: bottom of the sea.

asciilifeform: same place majorana's unified theory sits.

asciilifeform: there it sits.

asciilifeform: well he did end up writing 'into the void'

asciilifeform: understand, the circle of folks with actual education is ~small~

asciilifeform: the only folks who will read are the idiot grade-school educated 'physicists' who contemplate 'chemtrails'.

asciilifeform: no one will read, use, extend, whatever.

asciilifeform: the logic is that the result of 50k eotvos goes straight to /dev/null.

asciilifeform: a 'mircea_popescu institute of physics' or whatnot.

asciilifeform: there is not yet a 3rd planet.

asciilifeform: because that is ~where you go~ when you're drummed out of mainstream physics.

asciilifeform: he did not see anywhere to go other than ~to them~

asciilifeform: well it was a problem in the sense that

asciilifeform: putting 10,001 kinds of pretentious idiots in their place

asciilifeform: he spent multiple hours, every day, unpaid, spraying pesticide in sci.physics etc

asciilifeform: it was that his relationship with physics crackpots for last 30 yrs is ~same as mircea_popescu's - with bitcoin scammers

asciilifeform: he had a very particular problem

asciilifeform: sorta what i said to schwartz !

asciilifeform: that 'adelberger's torsion balance or it didn't happen'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu earlier conceded that the 50k calorimeter would not constitute proof... iirc

asciilifeform: 'his' in the same sense a usg carrier is the captain's.

asciilifeform: would have 0 power to prevent schwartz.

asciilifeform: adelberger would be ~nothing~ without his $B toy.

asciilifeform: because creates priests.

asciilifeform: 'having 3 computers is worse than none'

asciilifeform: this is PRECISELY mircea_popescu's argument in favour of 'symbolics died and it was good, we dodged a bullet'

asciilifeform: is the presence of the 2 eotvos balances a net positive? or would we actually have a handle on schwartz's result if everyone was STUCK with my $50k version of the experiment (calorimeter.)

asciilifeform: consider how the eotvos thing went.

asciilifeform: the other thing is that the presence of the costly detector may very well subtract more from the field, in its adelberger gatekeeper creation, than it ever could add.

asciilifeform: and likewise that schrodinger et all were able to get pretty far without costly detectors, and i do not regard it as 'they had low-hanging fruit'

asciilifeform: but that it is ~all~ we have.

asciilifeform: my objection is not even to expensive detectors.

asciilifeform: where are the massive piles of burning paper, topped off by 10,001 hog-tied lifelong string practitioners ?

asciilifeform: they EXPLICITLY rejected testability as a value.

asciilifeform: and that 'strings' are bunkum, and until the last 'strings' proponent is purged, there is no physics.

asciilifeform: that there is no synthesis.

asciilifeform: actually i understand pretty well how the thing works.

asciilifeform: and physics is what, e.g., schrodinger, did.

asciilifeform: but something else.

asciilifeform: my contention is that cern is not doing physics.

asciilifeform: logic being that icbm was not a pure 'let's build pyramid to show how massive the imperial cock' exercise. it had measurable goals, like building bridge.

asciilifeform: all modern icbm are of this type.

asciilifeform: (which has 0 space exploration potential)

asciilifeform: and in fact korolev suffered when yangel offered to solve SAME problem 100x cheaper with solid fuels.

asciilifeform: icmb was not research tool, it solved specific problem.

asciilifeform: and they build massive pyramid and 'physics is happy'

asciilifeform: and their students.

asciilifeform: so they give it to 'physicists' which is 10,001 bob becks.

asciilifeform: the item in question is 'benevolent inca empire wants to give $billion to physics' but you can't give 'to physics' because that's somewhere between 0 to 3 guys and nobody's gonna give some unwashed weirdos a $b

asciilifeform: when you pile up usgola, you get megalomaniacal constructions with 0 insight. precisely the calutron from the previous thread.

asciilifeform: 'tesla-style' works with lone crackpot and limited resources. because he has the incentive to ~synthesize~

asciilifeform: massive employment program for adelbergers and their catamites.

asciilifeform: it is flagship example of physics's rotting corpse.

asciilifeform: because 'big data'.

asciilifeform straps on fresh gas mask

asciilifeform: difference is that one you can actually do. in 10,001 entirely different but isomorphic ways.

asciilifeform: i could connect cable to tape and view tape with iron filings, and in fact have, and get same effect.

asciilifeform: but it is! shows me the bits that are there.

asciilifeform: 'we forgot how to synthesize so let's collect shiny shings, like a crow'

asciilifeform: 'science by machine' is merely nsa datacentre by other name.

asciilifeform: automated proofs are usg crapolade, i speak as a reformed and repented purveyor

asciilifeform: even if only 1 head, anywhere.

asciilifeform: the only actual knowledge is what fits in heads.

asciilifeform: that's a surrender, may as well go back to trees.