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ThickAsThieves: +$5k?
ThickAsThieves: whats that go for these days?
ThickAsThieves: interested, sure, just not interested in insane premiums it probably comes with
ThickAsThieves: and liquidity
ThickAsThieves: does it haz leverage?
ThickAsThieves: i think part of the bfx shenanigans lie in how they display one decimal place for USD in orderbook, but allow orders to specify 2 places
ThickAsThieves: hehe
ThickAsThieves: miles better than any other exchange
ThickAsThieves: i do like bfx otherwise tho
ThickAsThieves: often limit orders not filling
ThickAsThieves: bfx has some kinda sneaky something going on
ThickAsThieves: china def fakes/washes
ThickAsThieves: kolinko its hard to tell real exchange volume
ThickAsThieves: i wish you offered BTCUSD trading in some capacity
ThickAsThieves: cmon now
ThickAsThieves: and now offering bonds
ThickAsThieves: all the chinese exchanges are no-fee
ThickAsThieves: i watched these new chinese futures a lil and its basically being traded like btc, no real future sentiment at all
ThickAsThieves: yep
ThickAsThieves: the margin and futures scene is heating up tho
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> you know what wash trading is ? /// still happens quite obviously in btc exchanges
ThickAsThieves: well, youre welcome society, for my earlier transgressions!
ThickAsThieves: people wanna do things like circuit-breakers, and curating the data somehow, it's all shit imo
ThickAsThieves: you gonna dictate the mkt now?
ThickAsThieves: what if its real?
ThickAsThieves: so one glitch would indeed have implications
ThickAsThieves: any notable movement on any of the 4 or so top exchanges will cause movement on the rest
ThickAsThieves: it's worse now actually,
ThickAsThieves: you see glitched trade feeds in an exchange every few mos
ThickAsThieves: it happens
ThickAsThieves: indeed
ThickAsThieves: and then the Bitfunder thing is still a total mystery
ThickAsThieves: all i'm saying is if BTCT didnt close i woulda sold them shits!
ThickAsThieves: with no real gain
ThickAsThieves: i suppose itd just be redistribution of whatever actuall btc were in the systems
ThickAsThieves: as in if bf and btct werent shut down by USG, the lie may have played out to less loss
ThickAsThieves: customers getting more bitcoins out
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if more loss was caused by gov influence to shut down btc exchsnges, than if they remainded open
ThickAsThieves: something like that
ThickAsThieves: lessons
ThickAsThieves: i never intended to hold the bonds long term, it was just a risky trade. btct closed while in the process of selling em off...
ThickAsThieves: she does seem to have assets
ThickAsThieves: unsure whether legal pursuit would be worth it
ThickAsThieves: not that i expect to see it
ThickAsThieves: owes me 150btc
ThickAsThieves: yes
ThickAsThieves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=286634.msg8732682#msg8732682
ThickAsThieves: it continues to say shareholders get to vote on this move, (not bondholders)
ThickAsThieves: CM's debts, including the 'Bond'. It is therefore possible that 'bondholders' may seek to take legal action against CM's 'shareholders', including yourself, to seek to recover that debt. However, if 'bondholders' accept the restructure plan proposed below, that risk might be mitigated."
ThickAsThieves: get this: "CM was described as a "virtual company” by LTC-Global (and accordingly referred to as such in the CM Business Plan). However, as a matter of English law, CM may be considered a general partnership. If that is the case, then the 'shareholders' of CM - which includes yourself - would all be considered partners. As partners, they would all be jointly and severally liable for
ThickAsThieves: looks like some gnarly stuff
ThickAsThieves: http://brianmatthews60.blogspot.com/2014/03/ilsa-she-wolf-of-ss.html
ThickAsThieves: last div was in March, heh
ThickAsThieves: does AM even pay divs anymore?
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> anyway, ThickAsThieves The Strategy of Conflict, old book. /// will check it out
ThickAsThieves: <+punkman> if only we had 14 spare MPs sitting around /// oh lord!
ThickAsThieves: house, nurturing powers like overgrown weeds that now appear to make up the whole lawn.
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> kolinko no. the system can break itself, too. it doesn't need a mustachioed antropomorphised enemy. /// glad to see you say so, it's a point often missed in many circumstances. for example, some want to paint USG as a hyper conspiracy and assume all its evil/scammy actions are fully intentional. More likely, it just evolved to be a broken shit in all corners of its
ThickAsThieves: i know the concept, but how do i see the point?
ThickAsThieves: only light exposure
ThickAsThieves: so at first i was frustrated at this 1bTCXE trading challenge because basically what it is is they gave everyone a fake account with half BTC / half USD credits and people are set wild to trade the assets. However, there is no tie to the real market so it's mostly a psychological/economical experiment. In this case, is there theory on how such a market would play out?
ThickAsThieves: people will try anything if youre wearing the right clothes
ThickAsThieves: not ideals or such
ThickAsThieves: these are just system design factors
ThickAsThieves: for me, arguing against centralization as a broad value is silly
ThickAsThieves: hehe
ThickAsThieves: but arent we discussing sustainability of a system?
ThickAsThieves: fair enough
ThickAsThieves: til a nuke lands on your head at least
ThickAsThieves: which in turn is just order against chaos
ThickAsThieves: decentralization as an ideal doesnt really exist, it's just a degree of centralization
ThickAsThieves: why are we making lists and giving things to 15 people? i guess i better read the logs, is this OT or something?
ThickAsThieves: :/
ThickAsThieves: collusion + pollution = collution?
ThickAsThieves: just sometimes the price aint what it seems
ThickAsThieves: it can be sold out anytime
ThickAsThieves: trust is a commodity
ThickAsThieves: that almost makes sense
ThickAsThieves: !up truffles
ThickAsThieves: means they won't let anyone named Mark have an account
ThickAsThieves: has*
ThickAsThieves: NDA that greenaddress gas with NSA
ThickAsThieves: moved*
ThickAsThieves: i rented a trailer when i first moced to fl
ThickAsThieves: good tshirt for a porn actress
ThickAsThieves: cock must be this big to ride
ThickAsThieves: well, the goal is to be entertained, not impressed per se :)
ThickAsThieves: word
ThickAsThieves: mp you should watch it
ThickAsThieves: ever seen than movie?
ThickAsThieves: like Gattaca
ThickAsThieves: i think eating frequency is a factor as well, metabolism
ThickAsThieves: i do get tired though
ThickAsThieves: i rarely sleep more than 5 for a long time
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if people who only sleep 3-5 hrs a day, live more or less waking hours than those sleeping 8+
ThickAsThieves: hours*
ThickAsThieves: who wants to spend their waking ours managing their sleeping ones
ThickAsThieves: maybe we're always sleeping
ThickAsThieves: maybe humans have a built in hibernation function we dont know how to work yet
ThickAsThieves: maybe we need to go on life support when we sleep