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mircea_popescu: i had no idea just how iconoclastic i actually am, before b-a
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am not even convinced yet. just, not particularly convinced of the contrapositive.
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: I watched that last week.
funkenstein_: i think i saw him on sci.physics.relativity a decade ago
mircea_popescu: he should be here, i'm sick of being the most lines.
asciilifeform: i guess his isp finally stopped carrying usenet..
mircea_popescu: i mean of all the places... no wonder it took forever to find him.
decimation: asciilifeform: I think at least one use is utility meters
decimation: I think the 3231 is end of life, probably trying to ditch stock
asciilifeform: what i wonder is where these are typically used.
asciilifeform: 'Anyway, it is my considered opinion (along with, I wager, most everyone else's) that positively the ONLY way that's getting show to be inconsistent is by some intoxicated kids during having sex or somesuch. Everything else was tried to death.' (from mircea_popescu's www) <<<< 'ftl drive will be discovered by an ee student on the verge of flunking, designing stero amps.' (al schwartz)
mircea_popescu visited one such thing, in costa rica. it is the closest i ever got to a medieval hospital.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: y'know, all kinds of folks spent whole lives 'lala i can't hear you' to cantor's diagonal.
mircea_popescu: i don't readily see it.
mircea_popescu: kinda why i do not actually regret golden antiquity.
mircea_popescu: i propose that gcd is one of the few smart things we know.
asciilifeform: back to the miners, i say that if money were the handy iq test mircea_popescu suggests it is, this kind of situation would be quite impossible.
asciilifeform: i suppose - geologically...
asciilifeform: so what i'm saying is, pluto is sitting there, made of priceless unobtainium, and schmucks are schmucking around
asciilifeform: i'll name just one (because i am not in the business of handing out free advice to derpatronicists) -
mircea_popescu: i am not unaware of this possibility, yet i apparently discounted it, preferring a divergent approach. maybe i'm just that dumb.
mircea_popescu: hard to explain, but i will give the anecdotic.
mircea_popescu: i am merely pointing out that if both things you discuss exist, then both necessarily, by definition of existence, are approachable.
mircea_popescu: i am doing no such thing.
asciilifeform: it's more of a 'i can lift rocks but not porcupines'
mircea_popescu: "oh it can be the case i can lift rocks but not railroad metal"
funkenstein_: i have found fiat wealth correlates linearly with a broad integral of stupidity
asciilifeform: whereas i contend that it is possible to be 'napoleon' with theorems and 'spineless piece of shit' with girlz
mircea_popescu: i dun think i do.
mircea_popescu: i dub it "derp" and rename your will intelligence.
asciilifeform: will is not a scalar. perelman has will, mircea_popescu has will, i have will, and napoleon had will, and comparing magnitudes alone is rank nonsense
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well, the impression i get is that you think 'will' is a scalar
asciilifeform: decimation: i'd have bitcoind snarf time straight from the rtc chip
mircea_popescu: i don't expect technologee changed these much since the 90s
asciilifeform: l0l i think ~it~ is on my mobo
decimation: also I'm not sure if pogo has i2c bus
shinohai: I got a really old SATA with debian wheezy on it
decimation: I know :(
asciilifeform: and i've had ones die after <5
asciilifeform: i have a 15 yr-old one that's still going
mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised. those damned things... i've had one for a decade.
shinohai: Fer crissakes I forgot to partition fr.
shinohai: I could send to deedbot or something?
shinohai: but not trilema, and nothing in spam folder so i dunno :/
shinohai: I dunno. I get the dev mailing list.
shinohai: I am sorry to report that I have not yet received an email from trilema with a deposit addy
shinohai: whelp I hve a pogo now. A blank canvas, if you will.
asciilifeform: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pedrib/PoC/master/generic/i-c-u-fail.txt
asciilifeform: incidentally, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1191327 << this thread fell through the cracks, i think ☝︎
asciilifeform: (though it's been a while since i looked at the turdation's tree - perhaps they do ?)
kakobrekla: or the need for one. can service others in yurop i guess.
kakobrekla: i have a soldering station, but no pogos. ☟︎
asciilifeform: but overall i'm much less allergic to the idea of letting ntp adjust a running clock by a percent now and then
asciilifeform: i also learned last night that chinese rtc modules, complete with battery, are about fifty cents in quantity
asciilifeform: i've also thought about personally retrofitting the pogos with the crystals
jurov: (provide, i mean)
jurov: if we agree to ship with pogos also 100 of authed ntp servers, I'm all for it
jurov: and i keep telling you they already do cuz internet *is* usg institution
asciilifeform: i am only dreaming up specifics because asked to
asciilifeform: i believe that it is wrong for a large network of bitcoin nodes to depend on a usg institution.
asciilifeform: decimation: i can't comment on what's in the other '641a's.
asciilifeform: i can envision other scenarios
punkman: http://i.imgur.com/PHjb0ah.png
punkman: "I wish I had the money to setup enough miners myself to get 95% hashing power and just freaking fork already." ☟︎
thestringpuller: ;;later tell mircea_popescu On Qntra you said, "This is a resource war and you people are poor." Well some poor redditard was venting this morning and in his rage said, "I wish I had the money to...do xyz". Ironic how denial turns to anger, almost like stages of grief.
shinohai: I fergotI forgot i was laughing so hard BingoBoingo
decimation: he decides to be a hobo for fun I guess
decimation: I'm watching a youtube of some uk guy who decided to hop freight trains in canada
funkenstein_: could also be who i was rolling with at the time
funkenstein_: read my mind; i was just going to ask about when will squat culture arise
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 03:21:46; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194169 << i didn't misunderstand it. i simply do not credit it at all, just like i don't credit that an object could be arbitrarily pink but shapeless.
decimation: I think "absolutely trivial" is a bit of an overstatement
asciilifeform: at any rate, down in the log, i point out that it would be absolutely trivial to serve diddled ntp solely to known btc nodess.
asciilifeform: btw this is not uncommon where i live
asciilifeform: i'll bite. what else will perma-wedge if usg clock moves 2h into the past for a day ?
asciilifeform: at some point i ~will~ locate the pieces to make something like pogo en masse
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha i know
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as i said, this wasn't to my mind related to the p2p relay thing
asciilifeform: i suspect that perhaps 1 in 5 pogos will actually run
decimation: if we were to ditch leap seconds, I would need to know the 'current delta' to predict cesium from sunrises and vice versa
asciilifeform: i must confess that i'm not 100% clear on the primary mission. but did have the distinct impression that it involves making use of net jacks that don't have literate and attentive humans attached to them
decimation: yet, I can use cesium to predict sunrises and use sunrises to predict cesium
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194235 << i really don't think that's the primary mission for it ☝︎
asciilifeform: i described the 'death ray balance' envisioned by tesla.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194577 << if mircea_popescu has figured out how to 'reject usg time', i'm all ears. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << the going rate in that market is a few hundred. << I read the original message as hope for a winning "ticket"
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 03:17:08; mod6: asciilifeform: what did you do to bypass this, i thought i read you reconnected with -addnode or did you just /wait/ for a long period?
BingoBoingo: <trinque> close enough to drive to seattle shortly, but far enough to not know it << I would not mind life in Duquoin Illinois if I could support myself there. Trains to Chicago and St Louis, bars walkable. Secondary State Fair. Just everything else... ick
mircea_popescu: decimation there is no "sun does" immediately. sun doesn't. what there is, is, "here's what i say the sun does".
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194169 << i didn't misunderstand it. i simply do not credit it at all, just like i don't credit that an object could be arbitrarily pink but shapeless. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 01:17:38; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-07-2015#1193950 << i keep own time, and usg introduces leap second. now what
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 01:17:02; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-07-2015#1193949 << virtually all of them do, however. whether ~i~ choose to run ntp or not does not change the fact that the bulk of the network (including - though i can only suspect! - the mining bulk) does.
mod6: asciilifeform: what did you do to bypass this, i thought i read you reconnected with -addnode or did you just /wait/ for a long period? ☟︎
mod6: I don't see any attempt to reorg... but i'm gonna increase the db locks * 2 and see if that changes anything.
Vexual: few years back, i forget
Vexual: no, i din't even yell out
phf: Vexual: kodiak bears stay away mostly. sometimes you get teenage bears looking for trouble, but i've only heard second hand stories
Vexual: hey funk i saw clinton play, guy made ozone, ya could smell it
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 20:42:45; bagels7: i'll be your slave for a million dollars on a 5 year basis
Vexual: and the inverse i guess