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mircea_popescu: how has the adult looking 15 yo girl in the original turned into a retarded looking adult in the "upgrade " ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sentence was a mess, should be fixed, also not the latest article
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 05:09:59; trinque: filesystem is a big farty key-value store
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1261120 << this is actually a good point huh. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: phf: My 120e does with a different wifi card
trinque: apple's a scam these days too
mats: I have a hard time justifying dropping ~1450 on a 13in MBA with 8gb or I would be on the aapl train
phf: i got a refurbished x61, it arrived with a broken fan, literally boots into "fan error" message
phf: a github sticker, a "vegan" sticker, a random hackathon sticker, an "anarchist" sticker and your startup's logo
mats: i had some play time with a 'surface pro 3' and it was p good
ben_vulpes: i have an mbp, 15", only took it out to play eulora once and a while because i got ubuntu on it waaay ways ago
trinque: I am a barbarian, can't be trusted with delicate things
trinque: the "retina" was a piece of shit
phf: ben_vulpes: i'm having a hard time finding a better laptop including later mbp models, which have gone downhill even more
trinque: felt the same way about a pentium 3 thinkpad I had
trinque: but that thing was a tank
ben_vulpes: i dont know why anyone would treat an apple product as anything but a disposable terminal
trinque: I had a 2007 black macbook that lasted 7-8 years
trinque: and a piece of shit one at that
trinque: phf: yeah, this is mostly a mobile terminal
assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 22:18:22; mircea_popescu: the obviousness of all this is inescapable if one actually has at the same time the intellectual werewithal to regard the matter and the emotional disinterest of not giving a shit about the whole lot of it.
ben_vulpes: frame probably has a few strands of cf
ben_vulpes: i ripped a part of the nominal 'metal' out of a compressed air nailgun two weekends back
phf: ben_vulpes: i'm not sure why that would be a controversial point. how does something like trig functions work in python? they don't, they are a call out to system level math library
trinque: ah well maybe more broadly than that; it's gonna be a system you can run c stuff, open files, do socket io, etc
phf: there's cpython which behaves ~mostly~ consistently across the system, but its behavior is part convention/part emergent details of C code and to a very significant part the details of the underlying unix
phf: trinque: anyway, the original distinction was not about hosts not being a python datastructure, it's the fact that you can't separate python semantics from the underlying os, which is unix/posix/x86/ieee combined in various forms
cazalla: mircea_popescu, check it out, aussie artist making a mockery of your countrymen :P http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-03/dancing-with-costica-brisbane-artist-creates-buzz/6746014
phf: but your file manipulation dictionary is speced out to be a somewhat conventional tree like file/directory thing
trinque: maybe the filesystem is just a giant swapfile
phf: trinque: hosts file would most likely be still implemented as a filesystem file
phf: you have to have some set of global variables, even if it's only a state on the first execution of (main)
trinque: filesystem is a big farty key-value store ☟︎
ben_vulpes: what's the difference between "everything is a file" and "global variables" anyways
trinque: like for example in unixland you say "you make a file" for every question
ben_vulpes is not a lisper
ben_vulpes: it's just a file on a server somewhere mang
ben_vulpes: cl is such a delightfully crazy mindset
phf: but there's a pathname spec that lets your implementation answer that question for you
phf: trinque: that's not a particularly interesting question
trinque: so answer the question. where would a lookup table like /etc/hosts go if the system were completely made of lisp?
phf: common lisp specification is written in a such a way that you don't need to know anything about the outside world to fully replicate a ~useful~ computation
trinque: presumably on a lisp machine it would be some data structure in some system
ben_vulpes: how is /etc/hosts a cl data structure?
trinque: ben_vulpes: "doesn't own the machine" sounds to me like "/etc/hosts isn't a python data structure"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: would you elaborate on "own the machine" and a) why it should and b) how python does not?
asciilifeform: this can be a kind of pons asinorum for masochists.
asciilifeform: and ben_vulpes is quite likely to do a cleaner job of it than i
asciilifeform: 'python' on the other hand is more like a less-carcinogenic perl.
asciilifeform: it is a reluctant immigrant to unix
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: partly because cl is a 'heavy' runtime and not fit for use as a 'run ten times a minute' shell script
asciilifeform: anyway ben_vulpes is in luck, because i invented a marvellous pill for folks who had trouble fitting v in head
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'm trying to get a sense of how much sense the thing made to folks
assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 21:39:46; BingoBoingo: Played with qntra CSS a bit, still probably the most modern and compliant wordpress blawg on the interwebz https://archive.is/6kBqw https://archive.is/CKKJa
asciilifeform: (piss-men drive between cars in, e.g, shanghai, with jars, will let you piss for a coin)
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asciilifeform: in usa - almost lives up to its name, a pig.
asciilifeform: my mother's lab had them, and my folks kept one as a pet for a spell, back home. it was small, ratlike animal
asciilifeform: i remember seeing a guinea pig
trinque: people ask me if I feed him enough. of fucking course I do; that's just a cat with muscle, not blubber
asciilifeform: i tried once to keep a cat, in the old flat. he did not like it, escaped, tunneled through a grate and never seen again.
asciilifeform: (they were injured by a trap, but still somehow running, at half pace)
asciilifeform: if it were not for this, might be difficult in a modern flat (with no sacks of grain to lose, etc) to even notice them.
mircea_popescu: oh and acutally, the first time i EVER encountered a rodent as a domicile pest (of exactly three times total) is, iirc, on my blog somewhere.
asciilifeform: early versions had a charge on the grid at all times,
asciilifeform: sorta like a miniature electric chair
asciilifeform: in my old flat i made use of a very spiffy kind of trap, true marvel of engineering,
asciilifeform: where i live now, rat is no less a thing than in any medieval town, i imagine.
mircea_popescu: but it was more like a wilderness sighting of wonder than anything.
mircea_popescu: i had seen a rat, once.
mircea_popescu: had serious problems overcoming the mild curiosity. i don't see them as THAT much of a pest yet actually.
mircea_popescu had never seen a cockroach in the flesh before going to costa rica
asciilifeform: but it would be a mistake to suppose that they are absent from the northern latitudes
asciilifeform: (he would not do well in a ru flat. but allergy is really something you develop from hyper-hygienic conditions anyway. a man with roach allergy was an impossible thing where i come from)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260904 << i recently met a fella who cannot drink american instant coffee. breaks out in hives. and not on account of the coffee, but from having allergy to... cockroaches. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: orwell had a piece concerning this, somewhere
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is in bad taste to kill people but be unfamiliar with the body's path through this world. much like eating cream but never having milked a cow, or eating meat but never having hunted, and so forth.
asciilifeform: (there is a hilarious little book, by some american fella, 'stiff' - about process of decomposition and the practical applications of said field)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260690 << i like how mircea_popescu comes back to this image. makes me often privately wonder if he did a tour of duty as an undertaker when young man ☝︎
trinque: consider the person a specimen and ask questions
mats: truly deserving of a screenplay
asciilifeform: what i really suck at is socializing with generic humans without wanting to eat a bullet almost immediately
asciilifeform: trinque: if i were any good at lying, i would already be working as a professional liar. considering that i live in the world's capital for these
mircea_popescu: a great tragedy it'd be too
mircea_popescu wishes he'd have the poetic skill of at least a tolstoy, to write The Story of Alf,
asciilifeform: 'has never done anything but r&d, will run away after nanosecond when gets a chance'
asciilifeform: trinque: btw i will mention that there was a time when i was out of work and starving, and tried to do all kinds of things. the normal corporate folks could tell what kind of animal i was from ten minutes' conversation and wouldn't touch me with a barge pole.
trinque: I dunno I have a sense of humor about it
asciilifeform: trinque: i bet he works a full shift
trinque: I know a guy that makes like 120k building terrible web-pages
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can not answer for taleb. i can tell you that as far as i'm concerned, a) my ass actually enjoys the company and b) my head actually doesn't much care about the industry.
mircea_popescu: his tragedy, and make no mistake alf is a true tragic figure,
asciilifeform: if i had 'the money', someone would simply whack me with a club & take it.
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
mircea_popescu: and this is purely a subjective problem, no matter what it masquerades as.
mircea_popescu: much like genitalia belong, indivise, to "the other gender" as a group
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't give a tinker's damn per public affairs.. only sleep-ad-libitum.
asciilifeform: he can set alarm clock, as mircea_popescu suggested, to watch a meteor shower.
mod6: not that they're not good info, or good signals in a market place. but if you go shopping and have to think about weather you can afford to buy something, you're not rich.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: but moreover, 'poor' is a matter of emotion strictly. a brick cannot be poor.