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andychase: Well BIP66 fixed a consensus fork for miners running 32-Bit and 64-Bit computers, the shitshow happened because miners weren't validating blocks
BingoBoingo: Sure, but the least controversial one (BIP 66) still created a huge shitshow when it was triggered.
andychase: Hm, what do you mean? There's quite a few being considered right now and all the time.
andychase: Although to be honest I had a hard time understanding fully what you were talking about in regards to the flaws in the BIP process. Was it just that the Core Devs hadn't really talked to the miners or understood what was going on?
ag3nt_zer0: kakobrekla: well I used to think I was a decent wordsmith until I stumbled onto trilema contravex and loperos haha... but yeah perhaps qntra is something to aspire to contribute to...
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: should you wanna take care of that literacy, I've got a chick going through that interactive SICP, seems to be working out for her
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ag3nt_zer0: on another topic, I wonder is there anything a programming illiterate, or super noob relative to the experience level in here, can do to make himself useful to the ongoing labors of this group?
trinque spends weeks on a song in Renoise to find it wont export WAVs
asciilifeform: could almost certainly come up with a cleaner one if you just took the algo and wrote own
ag3nt_zer0: if its in a bob marley song maybe
ag3nt_zer0: a good reason?
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: can you give me a good reason to read this ?
ben_vulpes: in other news, i'm off to a baby shower
asciilifeform: and i don't give a flying fuck if the thing has parts made of baby bones and panda fur
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 02:08:18; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones << this is a very valid point, and the one spot where alf's ideas re meta-lizzards sound most persuasive. i do not believe the market is gerrymandered as it is by accident.
asciilifeform: this is also a continuation of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-09-2015#1260662 ☝︎
asciilifeform: this is kinda a continuation of the ancient 'ebay' thread.
asciilifeform: (that is, all 'generations' of patch family tree should occupy a level, strictly)
asciilifeform: punkman: i did a rough version of just that, a few days ago
asciilifeform: punkman: need a smarter toposort
punkman: asciilifeform: I only thought about it for 5 min but it seems like the solution to this would be a bit complex
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: try producing a patch that forks off, e.g., rel1, and see what i mean.
ben_vulpes: and this is why the global state drives me up a wall. because i cannot import one of these functions from the script and then run it without setting up a global environment for it. it's difficult to reason about the code lacks locality.
ben_vulpes: but looky here. you've written a thing that more-or-less must be tested as a whole, and i'm trying to push for testing the bits.
asciilifeform: desc is a table of where a file (represented by its sha512) was born.
asciilifeform: banners is simply a table of what was signed by whom.
ben_vulpes: in all honesty, it is a relic of testing from before i had the args objects mocked out.
asciilifeform: 'cause now if i wanna add a new command, there are THREE FUCKING PLACES to put it in instead of 2
trinque: This preoccupation with what should've happened misses the process by which things *actually happen* by a wide berth.
thestringpuller: reading a paper on cryptosocialism...
kakobrekla: i got a second mircorserver that will be another home node (amd, ecc, raid) that is on my bench waiting to be assembled for a couple of weeks now.
asciilifeform: i will note, for anyone relying on zoolag to transmit time-sensitive things, that it is on a fucking home fiber
asciilifeform: the thing really needs to run on a colo box.
asciilifeform: of a particular file in a pressing (or found elsewhere, aha)
ben_vulpes: so that'd be the hash of a "pressing"?
asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes what were you trying to do ?! 'o' takes a ~tree file's hash~ as argument, and tells you ~which patch~ produced it. looks like you were giving it a patch's hash ??
ben_vulpes: ^^ from a vanilla vdemo tar, unless i'm horribly mistaken.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform `for i in $(shasum -a 512 patches/* | awk '{print $1}'); do python v.py patches o $1; done` returns "No origin found." for all patches. i've not successfully run 'origin' yet.
gribble: What do you think I am, a shell?
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vextor: mircea_popescu noted that the bignum arithmetic often hobbled the machine, and to wait a few hours
vextor: hello, a week ago I reported that Phuctor is broken when new keys are submitted
gribble: The average time to generate a block at 113256481.48 Mhps, given difficulty of 56957648455.0, is 3 weeks, 4 days, 0 hours, and 8 seconds
gribble: The average time to generate a block at 56628240.74 Mhps, given difficulty of 56957648455.0, is 7 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, and 17 seconds
gribble: The average time to generate a block at 11325.6481481 Mhps, given difficulty of 56957648455.0, is 684 years, 48 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, 47 minutes, and 44 seconds
gribble: The average time to generate a block at 1000000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 56957648455.0, is 2 days, 19 hours, 57 minutes, and 14 seconds
gribble: The average time to generate a block at 1000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 56957648455.0, is 7757 years, 16 weeks, 6 days, 6 hours, 23 minutes, and 24 seconds
funkenstein_: It may be possible for a person to know something about history of the America's without reading him, but surely the responsibility is on the person to so demonstrate.the
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: said exe contains (in my copy) a bitwise-unchanged copy of 'mulisp-87' and a savelispanddie image of derive's engine appended after.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: came with a buncha generated crud, for illustrative purposes
gabriel_laddel: nvm - I've just got a bunch of DERIVE files, no sources.
gabriel_laddel: Yeah, I failed at that a while back.
asciilifeform: try that with a modern symbolic maths package.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why didnt you get a symbolics box yo! then you could have fondly remembered maxima instead of derive!
asciilifeform: in '93? 1) symbolics 2) sun 3) vax 4) a few others
mircea_popescu: i could have had a symbolics box ?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: is there anything in particular DERIVE has that maxima does not? I read a presentation on the matter, which had some nice specifics (inequality support) but am curious why you fondly remember the former rather than the latter.
mircea_popescu: they just had a retarded female-centric social system which fell over at the slightest provocation. like every other case in history.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: see earlier discussion re: agriculture being a hell
asciilifeform: and chicken, is a bird !
mircea_popescu: rome had been a million for nine or ten centuries by that point
mircea_popescu: anyway, to take that myth away : tenochtitlan had a populatiuon of 2 or 300k. in any case under 500k.
asciilifeform: esp. in north a.
asciilifeform: (note that this is not a null set, but i don't expect to hear any correct answer just now)
funkenstein_: asciilifeform, remember the bar here is set for - is it worth your while to go slit a throat of somebody not bother you
mircea_popescu: humanity is a thrown curve. what's ok in 700bc is not ok in 2000ad."
assbot: Hai sa facem un exercitiu on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NVtlGi )
gabriel_laddel: funkenstein_: life is ruff, here, have a blanket.
funkenstein_: i cry for mircea_popescu who lives in a society which grew up with no wise elders
asciilifeform: incidentally, i notice that aficionados of crying for the indians for some odd reason cry preferentially for the ones clobbered earlier and more thoroughly, leaving not so much as a wet spot (e.g., arawak) vs the later ones who learned horse and rifle and gave white man a run for his money
funkenstein_: in a dead wasteland
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: the 'magical wisdom of harmony with mother earth' thing won't fly. but my personal favourite crackpottery re: the indians, and one which has at least a pinch of actual historical support, is that they had to be bugsprayed to keep agricultural white man from defecting.
ben_vulpes: lol simply means nature comes by and wallops population numbers once in a while
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 01:09:34; asciilifeform: 'Every nationalist is haunted by the belief that the past can be altered. He spends part of his time in a fantasy world in which things happen as they should — in which, for example, the Spanish Armada was a success or the Russian Revolution was crushed in 1918 — and he will transfer fragments of this world to the history books whenever possible. Much of the propagandist writing of our time amounts to
funkenstein_: go, make a new maize
funkenstein_: at any rate, agriculture is a great example of "whoops - shoulda asked the locals where the keys to safe are before we needlessly removed their tongues"
mircea_popescu: but that's besides the point. being a skilled politician is never enjoyable.
mircea_popescu: i am a very good arithmetician, at that.
mircea_popescu: this is a pipe dream.
funkenstein_: yes, knowing a useful skill and performing it is enjoyable, sometimes referred to as satori 24
asciilifeform: any more than you and i choose to put hand in a bear trap
mircea_popescu: allowing the common man some semblance of freedom and import for a short interval.
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ a lot of talk about that. point of fact is, subsistence hunters with bow and arrow.
mircea_popescu: basically, argentinian : tribute band that is not a band and no tribute, in a bar that sells no drinks to some kids that are there because they got out of the rain.
mircea_popescu: you should have seen this thing. a space too small to keep a woman with her sister ; 5 dollar drinks ; buncha teenaged derps dressed like pizza delivery boys, backpacks i compris. which ius why nobody had a drink.
mircea_popescu: in other news, went on a lark to this "power dc" ac/dc tribute band in some "rock bar" here.
funkenstein_: thestringpuller, a show of new school crew George tours with these days : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tk9j00wyVQ
funkenstein_: there was no indian problem. There was a somebody gave retards weapons and they appear to be killing everything in sight problem.
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 00:27:19; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-09-2015#1263340 << the proposition that the library of alexandria has anything to do with a bunch of bronze-age derps is ridoinculous. that event was a clear cut case of the elites of one culture wiping the elites of another culture it had defeated. this happens to be right and proper. the solving of the indian problem is nothing of the kind, but simply the elit
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VariaVarietatis: If not out of the wot could someone recommend a good webhost?
VariaVarietatis: mircea_popescu Need some webhosting and a domain are you still selling hosting?
pete_dushenski: "Thanks for not setting a reasonable restriction on transaction fees blockchain.info!" << "it's all your fault i'm a flaming maroon!"
thestringpuller: and that's the last time I click on a link from mircea_popescu
assbot: On how the factored 4096 RSA keys story was handled, and what it means to you. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1VFXivr )
Bingo_VACAY: In a pretend lunix
thestringpuller: Bingo_VACAY: you didn't bring a laptop with you?
mircea_popescu: if he hangs himself by the ears with a rope made out of state, that's his problem. but saving the thing is not that yet.
mircea_popescu: you're making the jump and presuming nonsensical usage, which may be a fair assumption in general, but not necessary here.