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ascii_field: i will borrow
a page from mircea_popescu and say 'i don't give
a fuck HOW' it is done
trinque: so make
a lisp data structure and then derive your argparsing code from... oh wait
ascii_field: as in, why the fuck do i have to change something in 3 separate places when adding
a knob
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: in principle i object to repetition in
a proggy
ascii_field: my initial 'v' presses rel1 and the bleeding-edge rel2, yes, but it ought to be regarded as
a proof-of-concept
ben_vulpes: mike_c: i posted
a tarball, as i did some messy surgery and expected brutal diffs. if you can get cleaner diffs, that'd be great.
mike_c: ben_vulpes: you want me to post
a full tarball or diffs to mailing list?
ascii_field: 'v' is far too necessary to remain
a me-thing (much less
a python-thing or pc-thing)
ben_vulpes is struck by
a lightningbolt of understanding
ascii_field:
a valid packet is necessarily 1) rsa'd to the node's ephem-key 2) signed by originator's ephem-key
trinque: *garbage arranged to look like
a sig to
a dumb parser
trinque: was imagining
a network device connected in three directions, outside world, sig checker, and inside world
ascii_field: the thing to understand is that 'hardware gosspid' nodes would form an impenetrable skin around
a p2p sane internet.
trinque: what if it didn't verify the sig; it just verified that it looks like
a sig, and hands off to something that can
ascii_field: jurov: basic principle, at least in my variant of its statement, was that an unknown endpoint is to be listened to STRICTLY for as long as it takes to establish that it can sign with
a key that you wot.
mircea_popescu: because cpus are so much better than pipes these days,
a dirty little secret the us telcos have managed to hide from their market like they managed to hide the fact that NOBODY CHARGES FOR INCOMING CALLS!!11,
trinque: seems I could have whatever shitty computers I like behind such
a device, and could be relatively certain that no command and control messages are making it in
ascii_field: or rather, doesn't end, but becomes
a voluntary idiocy like running winblowz
ascii_field: trinque, jurov: if device which silently drops unsigned (or signed by unblessed) packets straight on the floor were mass-produced and inexpensive, ddos as
a thing ends.
ben_vulpes: this is
a thing i do once per project and always forget how it's supposed to go.
trinque: and that seems
a far smaller target to build than
a whole new arch
ascii_field: trinque: imho it is the only correct way to make
a network at all.
trinque: I have
a question regarding this. Would
a device operating at the network boundary, parsing packets and only permitting some signed wad in, only signed wads out be valuable in any way?
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> my point was that b-
a browser demands b-
a machine << TI-92
ascii_field: my point was that b-
a browser demands b-
a machine
ascii_field: iirc this was
a theme in 'lord of the rings' aha
ascii_field struggles to think of even one useful tool that doesn't have
a retarded usgized variant - e.g., gpg
mircea_popescu: for the same rason disinfo agent is stuck discussing "quiantum hjardening" and "cpu arch based attacks". ie, he is NOT ALLOWED to give even
a single inch. which terribly boxes him in.
mircea_popescu: (it will be. and to THEIR detriment, because it's very much
a poison pill for that entire industree)
mircea_popescu: "the xt is not
a huge privacy hole because you can recompile it not to be. we're banking on thefact the fucktards in usg-zoo won'tanyway. we don't sign binaries but it could be done if needed except we're banking on idem"
mircea_popescu: (and
a forced mistake, too. in odrder to avoid noticing the isomorphism between yourself and turd in the sun, you're stuck breaking the isomorphism recognizer)
ascii_field: BingoBoingo:
a) enemy reads the logs, mega-surprise aha b) this is roughly isomorphic to the old behaviour, 'crash when full'
trinque: mircea_popescu: yes I think using "the logs" has
a lot of fruit left to give
ascii_field: what happened when tmsr didn't have
a foundry?
mircea_popescu: trinque i woke up last night to the fact that email only persists because we havewn't fully groked the importance and effects of b-
a yet.
trinque: I would use
a text-only computer all day provided it had something of
a net connection
trinque: want to send me
a real message? gpg-gram me
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 12:36:35; asciilifeform: b) want graphics. WE DON'T HAVE
A SANE GRAPHICS STACK
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 12:35:42; asciilifeform:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1267767 << this is
a CATASTROPHICALLY bad idea, because any attempt is simply asking for self-delusionary masamunification (sorry gabriel_laddel, but you know precisely what i mean.) -- this being, 'aha this is
a turd, but WE made it and therefore doesn't stink and is somehow edible'
mircea_popescu: but i'd note that if there was
a #derive-assets where i could get
a half hour's window, this would be
a non problem.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i suppose it is
a win then that i cannot ask stoutemyer anything. after all, my only qualification is 'can walk', aha.
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 12:26:49; asciilifeform: this is not
a win.
ascii_field: which is why i was
a little surprised when thought it was mentioned
ascii_field: the one where you were
a lone diversant sent behind enemy lines, and had to choose whether the weight of, e.g., extra demo charge is worth losing three frags or five pistol clips, etc
mircea_popescu: in
a distopian future with
a very gritty burnished steel look and feel about it, you built all sorts of tanks, helicopters etc,
mircea_popescu: ascii_field hey, i dunno if you ever played this, but there was
a GREAT, an absoluterly fucking fantastic game in the pre-windows days
mircea_popescu: that'd kick ass btw. "our fleet consists of this flagship that is
a tank factory. it outputs tanks in continuous motion (60mph) 4 thick."
mircea_popescu: if you just have it hover on water, you should be able to move
a fucking tank plant.
mircea_popescu: the hercules moves like
a dozen planes, and actually flies.
trinque: the largest one seemed capable of moving more than
a few tanks
ascii_field: trinque: 'экраноплан' - but think of it as
a very fast gunboat, rather than
a plane
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: self-steering projectile ~really~ wants to be
a rocket, not only because guidance apparatus costs and so may as well include large warhead, but also because changing direction kills velocity if all you got is the acceleration in the barrel (classical bullet)
trinque: gonna be
a sad thing when we try to field whichever f35s can fly
mircea_popescu: (/me vaguely suspects that much like the french get the trophy for "last and therefore best supersonic air transport", the ru may get the trophy for "last and therefore best" fighter jet. i somehow doubt
a better one's ever getting made, by anyone)
mircea_popescu: is this
a latin influence in russian, is тивник anything ?
mircea_popescu: what the word describes is
a purely intellectual situation, today.
trinque: I eagerly await the overturning of the world, as it has been chewing the back of my mind
a long while.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field btw, i started
a measuring, my node pulls ~600 blocks/hour
mircea_popescu: and have
a airgapped system with the full history etc that's not exposed to the internet.
shinohai: K jurov. mats sent me sufficient btc to purchase
a pogo, but I only got an inferior drive with it. Planned on getting something
a little more robust
BingoBoingo: But as
a point, properly made furniture does in fact not include nails
shinohai: Thx jurov. On my list of items to purchase when I actually get
a working pogo binary.
mircea_popescu: try telling that to as-saffah tho, "i've lost baghdad once
a week"
mircea_popescu: for austin, "taking baghdad" once
a week for three years straight would have been an excellent outcome : over one hundred allied victories!!11
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 11:41:49; asciilifeform:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1267274 << gabriel_laddel: you are speaking mostly to folks who haven't grasped lisp. sorta like showing
a modern army base to medieval commander - he will not be able to see past it being '
a terrible castle, where the fuck are the walls and moats'
mircea_popescu: so wait. carrying water not being difficult (when one is not obese) is somehow
a detraction from plumbing ?
assbot: You rated user shinohai on 03-Jul-2015, with
a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: New blood..
ascii_field: 'You see, not only are they trying to get us to pay them for using
a few ink splotches, but as it turns out, the ink splotches don't belong to them in the first place! Our cover artist happened to keep meticulous records (probably not something they anticipated) and traced the source of the ink splotches to
a Finnish artist...'
punkman: ascii_field, I wouldn't think fake capacity numbers are
a problem, but yeah I guess you gotta write $x GB of data to it that can't be compressed away
☟︎ jurov: that it isn't such
a scam as the price indicates and can probably bear the blockchain
jurov: punkman i got
a crate of pogos, doing some research about matchin'them with cheap ssd's
VariaVarietatis: Never been to
a chinese gadget site, where do you look for such
a thing?