asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-21#1486041 << it ☝︎

asciilifeform: i could say a number but it will be misleading, for same reason as the private jet thread

asciilifeform: poorfags - not.

asciilifeform: ... conclusion being, ~other~ folks, with serious economic weight behind them, can and do indeed launch sats.

asciilifeform: whole experiment went precisely like my 'what would it take to launch a satellite' thing.

asciilifeform: cellar was not very large tho.

asciilifeform: potentially.

asciilifeform: ^ quite pertinent !!

asciilifeform: incidentally i factored in cost of NOT going to 'food depot' etc. and it is quite high.

asciilifeform: (notice i said 'go sailing' not 'build boat')

asciilifeform: from them.

asciilifeform: and learn to breathe water.

asciilifeform: when i go sailing i will be sure to also ask her to pick up some fish so we can learn from them how.

asciilifeform: apparently

asciilifeform: if you can call 'food depot' etc. living.

asciilifeform: srsly

asciilifeform: wtf do i need the local fauna for.

asciilifeform: mega-project.

asciilifeform: and bear in the woods.

asciilifeform: why not send to fuck monkey in the zoo, also

asciilifeform: ick

asciilifeform: hm?

asciilifeform: vs armchair.

asciilifeform: hey i enjoyed experimental test for a change

asciilifeform: because what else.

asciilifeform: at any rate, caterpillars are not find cuisine but that's what i'm gonna eat on this here island.

asciilifeform: plenty of folks did

asciilifeform: y'know, the thing ~100% of our ancestors managed to do.

asciilifeform: testing hypothesis 'it is possible to build box to keep the rain out, with own hands and minimal expenditure'

asciilifeform: much more modestly.

asciilifeform: before - it was army-in-being.

asciilifeform: whatchatalkingabout, moses had mega-meat-army

asciilifeform: (and 1 set of pet)

asciilifeform: working with own hands.

asciilifeform: anyway, asciilifeform is not a jew in the sense contemplated in the quote. this requires 'heritage' to stand on the shoulders off - uncles who will invest in your schemes, etc. -- but instead is more of crashed flyer.

asciilifeform: dafuq

asciilifeform: supposedly.

asciilifeform: mine bakes cakes, etc.

asciilifeform: maybe BingoBoingo's kitchen. not mine.

asciilifeform: not even certain that i would know how to operate it if it ~were~. etc.

asciilifeform: not available, not gonna be available, not worth considering

asciilifeform: army of meat robots may as well be cern's particle accelerator as far as i'm concerned.

asciilifeform: 'water water everywhere, and still the boards did shrink'

asciilifeform: asciilifeform's position is considerably closer to that, than to the egyptian paterfamilias.

asciilifeform: crashed pilot on pacific island, eating caterpillars, also lacks meat robots.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: meatrobots.

asciilifeform: possibly it can be done, but ~not~ on shoestring budget.

asciilifeform: well that was my tentative conclusion.

asciilifeform: i have 0 use for the latter.

asciilifeform: the former.

asciilifeform: makes sense.

asciilifeform: or much rain.

asciilifeform: worx great in latitude without snow.

asciilifeform: ah yeah those

asciilifeform: ~nothing without crew

asciilifeform: lemme guess, it is more of jet fighter to them

asciilifeform: probably not ?

asciilifeform: hm?

asciilifeform: i like the idea of slowly building 'dirigible' ☟︎

asciilifeform: which is why i contemplated the bmore thing

asciilifeform likewise

asciilifeform: i suppose, the same folks who build ships in bottles

asciilifeform: (either that or you have to ~like~ shoveling shit)

asciilifeform: for it to even begin to resemble making financial sense.

asciilifeform: and yer time has to be worth ~0

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but not the bmore house's.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they are such in the place i live now.

asciilifeform: but i dunno if worth the bother.

asciilifeform: the real estate agent, an old woman, send me long list of similar properties i could look at.

asciilifeform: vs 'build house'

asciilifeform: whole gedankenexperiment was predicated on 'fix carcass'

asciilifeform: cheaper to dynamite the carcass and build new, than to replace plastered-in ducts.

asciilifeform: havefun

asciilifeform: tear up remaining walls, floors ?

asciilifeform: replace !?

asciilifeform: l0l!!!

asciilifeform: scrubbing surfaces is something one can do, if pressed, personally.

asciilifeform: to remove rubbish from forced-air ducts

asciilifeform: it is typically a trailer-sized blower/vacuum

asciilifeform: do mircea_popescu's slaves have a duct cleaning machine handy ?

asciilifeform: not all of which can be done with own hands and simple equipment

asciilifeform: nor rubbish removal

asciilifeform: $s from:asciilifeform attic

asciilifeform: it looks almost exactly like this.

asciilifeform: lel for a second i thought mircea_popescu dug up the photo of asciilifeform's attic posted last year !!

asciilifeform: where? in the new houses ?

asciilifeform: shit-age houses, just like shit-age b00kz, have 0 smell, or unpleasant faint petro smell.

asciilifeform: prolly comes from civilization-era construction material.

asciilifeform: it was quite astonishing.

asciilifeform: the smell! some of the bmore houses have it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didn't go well how

asciilifeform: folks buy to celebrate something, remember old civilized times

asciilifeform: phf: i found it interesting that EVERY ru store in dc area stocks it

asciilifeform: from sturgeon caviar to cars made of actual iron

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: from mircea_popescu's felt top hat to the bmore brick house.

asciilifeform: as result of the march to ant-civilization.

asciilifeform: my point was that much of what was ordinary or even commonplace then, is scarce and precious now

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