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n6: The bot is giving me a otp for a subkey 3594E367, that I can't decrypt but its telling me Key 05D01131 is what its sending me im at a loss for how to fix this can anyone help?
mircea_popescu: and yes, i would ghuess the whole pile as it stands atm is just about 1mn loc
mircea_popescu: i was using direct quotes.
asciilifeform: i would pay to see eiffel tower made of dead gavins.
mircea_popescu: i would pay to see this. perhaps not "enough". but still.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for all i care he can put it in narrative form on the fly.
mircea_popescu: "give me the specs" the man says. i have.
mircea_popescu: i thought this is what forth is all about ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would take text based.
mircea_popescu: i thought this forth thing works "on its own os" ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for all i care he can make it work on a forth machine
decimation: asciilifeform: I wish he would have made a slightly-more function version of this thing http://www.excamera.com/sphinx/fpga-j1.html
mircea_popescu: (granted, an 80 yo man, i'm not serving a challenge - merely wondering)
mircea_popescu: what's his "i'm game" mean ?
mircea_popescu: i'd be veri curious to see a forth implementation of eulora client.
mircea_popescu: "But I'm game. Give me a problem with 1,000,000 lines of C. But don't expect me to read the C, I couldn't. And don't think I'll have to write 10,000 lines of Forth. Just give me the specs of the problem, and documentation of the interface."
decimation: I'm merely reinforcing your point
asciilifeform: though i will add that moore operated for decades as a successful consultant, a la the pdp emulator fella
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: most of the settlement, if indeed there was one and it is not disinfo - went, as always and without exception it does, to the bloodsuckers << This is why if misdemeanor if not dismissed at hearing I intend to fire lawyer.
asciilifeform: (i would build different device, yes. but same basic idea)
asciilifeform: same as i would.
mircea_popescu: not really realised much of the settlement, from what i gather, but nevertheless, people love to dream.
asciilifeform: precisely what i would do in his position
asciilifeform: (i.e. fab)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i made 100 bucks today! BETTING! On what?
mircea_popescu: i made 100 bucks today! BETTING!
asciilifeform: and, though i do not, the folks who built my machines - did
decimation: yeah I guess it runs on 'bare pentium' too
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you lose, i got your own damned rng chips here.
decimation: asciilifeform: I thought 'colorforth' was written for winblows
mircea_popescu: i don't either, really.
mircea_popescu: and ALSO, i buy the theory that the principal reason chuck moore is mentioned by name is a successful eight digit settlement iwth intel
decimation: "The only reason I did it was THAT COLORFORTH JUST DIDN'T RUN ON THE THREE MACHINES I HAD AVAILABLE." < my experience too
mircea_popescu: i was unimpressed reading about it originally, and i stay unimpressed.
mircea_popescu: "Then the 18 bits of the GA144. Don't be impressed. It is a stupid design error. At the time 18 bits static memory chips where in fashion." << i happen top buy this btw.
decimation: I was reading another article somewhere - thier point was that if trophy-hunting whites stop coming to hunt lions because of this bullshit, they are not going to keep the wildlife reserves
mircea_popescu: first time i hear about this. consequently, i shan't be going.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> decimation: doubt that it's as complicated as all that. probably just straight mental mapping of the lion in the washington zoo, or even in some cartoon, to the real thing << Last time I went to St Louis zoo they had balding malnourished lions. Surprised local bangers didn't take them as bait for training their pitbulls.
decimation: I suggest anyone who is against lion-hunting: go help guard the lions (without weapons) in their territory. when the lion eats your leg as you sleep, you will know he is doing it with appreciation
mircea_popescu: ok, i lolled.
decimation: this reminds me of that 'anti-nazi' article I found in the frankfurter zeitung
asciilifeform: 'remember, paul, 1940?' 'sure! we were in france! took everything that fit in our hands!' 'ah, i still had hands then!' 'and remember when we ran from stalingrad?' 'ah, i still had legs then!'
asciilifeform: http://loper-os.org/pub/Krokodil_1985_13.djvu << uploaded for this thread. i will let readers decide if mr mold was fair about krokodil
trinque: asciilifeform: I laugh at the gallows, not at any mob power
asciilifeform: 'Many UR readers have had the priceless educational privilege of growing up behind the Iron Curtain. These readers will identify Professor DeLong's tone at once: it is the tone of the Soviet humor magazine Krokodil. I will take the liberty of Anglicizing, and call it "crocodile humor." Extremely educated readers may also be familiar with the Nazi variant, as found in Der Stürmer and the like. The material is different, of cou
asciilifeform: 'Note also how quickly Reynolds resorts to ridicule. There is a kind of pseudosatirical humor, or what would be humor if it was in any way funny, that is an unmistakable product of his time in Moscow. I call the trope "crocodile humor" after the Soviet humor magazine, Krokodil.'
trinque: still I'll have a chuckle at my own powerlessness
trinque: I can see the point; in fact I made a similar one about "satirical" news shows recently
asciilifeform: 'Béraud used to contribute to the Fascist weekly paper Gringoire, which in its later years had become the most disgusting rag it is possible to imagine. I have seldom been so angered by anything in the press as by its cartoon when the wretched Spanish refugees streamed into France with Italian aeroplanes machine-gunning them all the way. The Spaniards were pictured as a procession of villainous-looking men, each pushing a han
decimation: "My excitement was doused when I realized that the lion killer was being painted as the villain. I faced the starkest cultural contradiction I’d experienced during my five years studying in the United States."
trinque: "I'd much rather my kids watch the fuck machine named Big Bird." << oh my sides
asciilifeform: as for mircea_popescu's observation as quoted in qntra, i will say now what i said then:
assbot: I Don’t Let My Kids Watch Winnie The Pooh Because... | ClickHole ... ( http://bit.ly/1K4xvFk )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Jaundiced Pooh update http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/i-dont-let-my-kids-watch-winnie-pooh-because-i-don-2842
decimation: as a long time user of RPN calculators I do indeed find forth pleasing
BingoBoingo: I me probably not going to intentionally acquire cat until possesses farm.
trinque: he challenged me to a game of "lemme try an' cut you" and I lost
mod6: was just derpin i guess.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> them & the grapher. << i can live with this.
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 21:50:41; mircea_popescu: but i guess the consensus is pointing towards, ml gets restated with antecedents, trinque writes a grapher for it all ?
trinque: I actually grow to like the wiki suggestion best for the patch tree
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I get a 404 nao
mod6: but i see your point.
mod6: i just figured it was a neato way to keep the patches that we sign separate from the rest of the heap of stuff.
mircea_popescu: i still don't see why i'd do it, myself.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-08-2015#1226803 << i happen to like forth. i bring up chuck moore as an example of 'yes we can recreate 25 years of electronics on a napkin, and it'll fucking work' ☝︎
punkman: not that I'd mind patch deeds, but can basically deed patch hashes already
mircea_popescu: tbh i don't either.
punkman: I don't see how deeding patches helps with what started this discussion
mod6: so i guess all in all, the deedbot solution, if it can be created, seems better than my initial proposal of 2 mailing lists; one for everything, one for patches accepted only. which seems simple as well, but now we have to manage two lists.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok. i both read this before and i broadly agree with the man.
trinque: neat thought; I can see something useful there for contracts generally
mod6: maybe something can be added? like trinque is saying? i dunno.
mod6: i guess this thought was sort of a work in progress.
mircea_popescu: how do i do "find me all people who signed this" ?
mod6: oh, i think he was saying that he would need to implement accepting a second argument and making it so that the URL contains a hash of the original plaintext patch.
mircea_popescu: i have to know the ascii value of ) to code in forth ?
BingoBoingo: But I am in the process of dancing with university to set up job interview, so may have fiat stream to start burning soon
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It appears years in the future. I imagine Adlai will prolly get an emacs client first. Or I'll get a sacrificial linux machine first (sacrificial linux machine is tiered below box to colo cheap for infrastructure BTC node).
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't think we will ever move that.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I may surprise drop cg less full open Eulora client, but more likely CrystalSpace will hit version 2.2, chetty will build Eulora client against it, and Full Open Eulora client just happens
mircea_popescu: but... i don't design chips!
BingoBoingo flipping through Eulora source can make no sense of what files do what. It is nothing like Bitcoin which is the only big cpp turn I am kinda familiar with.
mircea_popescu: i guess we get to the gist of it
mircea_popescu: this i'd like to see demonstrated.
mircea_popescu: but it does seem to me very much akin to a "hey, if you salt a fresh frog leg you can electrocute it into moving". cool! but instead i order my slaves to read and summarize for me!
mircea_popescu: that's mostly what i make.
mircea_popescu: so i static link
mircea_popescu: why would i want to do it THIS way
assbot: Logged on 20-06-2015 01:37:28; asciilifeform: phun phakt: 'scheme' programming language has its 'call-with-current-continuation', perhaps the oddest and 'most generic' control structure known, which takes the current place in execution and turns it into an assignable (yes) closure (i.e. callable function!) -- typically it is implemented using setjmp().
mircea_popescu: why would i make a "construct" in the language that does i+2
asciilifeform: because i'm a pauper ?
BingoBoingo: I think it makes sense for node operators to come to agreements to make some of their connections through SSH tunnels.
shinohai: My thoughts as well. I'll throw up a webserver or stuff like that on there. But those sorts of postings are a big nope for me.
shinohai: Little wonder I can find any jobs4bitcoin these days: http://redd.it/3a536o
shinohai: nm, they arent the connections I specified.
shinohai: asciilifeform: with the pogo binary from the mailing list I got 3 connections xD
asciilifeform: laugh all you like, but i can't picture things working, long-term, any other way
shinohai: I just commented out my addnode/connect jazz just to run for now :/
asciilifeform: i have a box where some sniveling fucker has been lifting payloads out of tcp, for ~9+ hours now.