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mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492031 << there is this. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: take any girl, stick her in the "modern democracy" box, she becomes fat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and it's not even fucking inborn, it's TRAINED! whip "lazy" girl that got to 20 and never achieved anything, she becomes in a year or two as self-driven and capable as you'd like it.
mircea_popescu: the temptation to vegetate is great. absent a driver, plants will plant.
mircea_popescu: trinque no, because sucking is gross.
mircea_popescu: and the shit they netflix isn't even fit for in-flight entertainment, admittedly a low bar.
mircea_popescu: you should see the local herps. "i like staying home and netflix".
mircea_popescu: trinque no, they're saying "i got all the food i could possibly need and this clicker thing. wut ?"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller has little to do with redditor per se, they find everything creepy for the reason and in the way pig finds everything too tall.
mircea_popescu: ie, "they want consensus".
mircea_popescu: in short : salvation can not come from the mass of people. the mass of people is here for one thing only, and that is to supply holocaust fuel.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform point being, idiots are idiots, and if their favourite idiocy is denied in bitcoin, they reddit desperately until they find a doge/ripple/ether replacement.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this exists, obv. as much as a backup chain store is "dark node" after all.
mircea_popescu: oh, "the state attacks the family" no dude. the state moves in a vacuum you made.
mircea_popescu: see something as "benign" as http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492039 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: they have the option to spurn bullshit. they don't, they seek bullshit.
mircea_popescu: so : they have the option to be varied in hardware. not only they don't take it : they AMPLY eschew it.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the existential, fundamental, first and foremost threat to bitcoin is emerging to be, the essentially centralizing nature of the modern human. slave's born to live in empire, so if there's a lot of slaves, there'll be an empire. once nero died it wasn't a case of "ah fucking finally, now we can go back to republic". no, it was "WE MUST HAS EMPEROR! EVEN GALBA!"
mircea_popescu: that sort of thing.
mircea_popescu: but, factually, there COULD be other reasons behind it. such as you know, hosts offer centos 7 prestamped on dedicated boxes, and so therefore, everyone runs centos 7
mircea_popescu: it didn't look terribly good. for bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: mno.
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492029 << because nobody actually did it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the fact remains it's trivial to run gluster/galera on 5000 boxes and have what appears 5000 independent nodes that neverthelss have all the solidity of a puppet install.
mircea_popescu: after the shocking revelations earlier this year, that really many things which seemed actually hosted properly (ie, own box etc) and on this basis assumed independent were really THE SAME ONE ITEM, i think even the 50 figure is generous. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: best thing you can have about a large UNSPECIFIED construct is a guess.
mircea_popescu: well ? sad but tru!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you'll still be waiting for "proper" anything and everything. heck, we're still waiting for proper asciilifeform .
mircea_popescu: what is and what is not ; what can or can not be done ; how things should be done etc experimentally benefits little from importing reasonable_expectations.h
mircea_popescu: 96." | L4 : "there's no rsa collisions in the wild" ; R4 : "if you don't count the 300 or so phuctor found" and on and on and on it goes in this vein. at this point i do not expect any "common sense" held truth about any network to be any closer to reality than what miss america thinks on the subject.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger what i'm more and more discovering is that the legends about the internet and the facts about the network (not just the internet, network in general) are very much at odds. consider a few examples : L1 : "many eyes means better code" ; R1 : "many eyes means bikeshed effect" | L2 : "Bitcoin has many nodes" ; R2 "yeah, like less than 50." | L3 : "there's many weak consumer grade boxes out there" ; R3 : "maybe in 19 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i personally doubt it.
mircea_popescu: so then your q has pretty good answers.
mircea_popescu: i suppose isps filter incoming for the domestic space (not out of any safety concern, just, to not sell a useful service, which is anathema in usian style economy)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for the record, i just tried to ssh to a few known home routers. no answer. try it yourself.
mircea_popescu: possibly same garbage dump cisco went
mircea_popescu: comrades, your production of failures per hectare is insufficient! comrade kosygin is displeased!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492022 << bwahahaha ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492015 << i wonder if this is true, even. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492008 << it seems rather improbable. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway. yes dingledine & other sleepers (reilly, whatever) push for chasteen and whoever the fuck else to "be hired", because that's how their job goes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no patience to read, but by now, "at MIT" is damning. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nuts, teh "technology" an' its effects on the herd.
mircea_popescu: so apparently reddit has selected for this large-ish population of chicks that want to post selfies "anonymously". because they're THAt desperate for male attention and THAT incapable of handling male presence. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: then again it's rather common for people to do something smart early and then be shockingly stolidly dumb for the rest of their lives.
mircea_popescu: maybe
mircea_popescu: phf anyway, it's a very reasonable way to waste one's life. it can live on a server(s), connect via chatbot, solicit payment which'll work once trinque gets it added to deedbot... it's an actual biznis.
mircea_popescu: lol the greatness of machinery.
mircea_popescu: all the weird shit you care about...
mircea_popescu: yeah, agreed, unlike cyc bs, that is a credible starting point
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-26#845518 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i recall this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how does this happen to people!
mircea_popescu: apparently only some people outgrow being 9, and lenat isn't one of them.
mircea_popescu: distinctly reminescent of 9yo me writing "utility programs" consisting of pre-selected arbitrary aditions and their results.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cycstupidity.
mircea_popescu: machine does its own thing
mircea_popescu: you do not. and more improtantly : you need no human anything in there. you wanna succeed in your own terms, go, succeed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no.
mircea_popescu: sigh.
mircea_popescu: seriously, they're going to put the rules in by hand arbitrarily and expect the machine to do something with that ?
mircea_popescu: (#$implies (#$and (#$isa ?OBJ ?SUBSET) (#$genls ?SUBSET ?SUPERSET)) (#$isa ?OBJ ?SUPERSET)) << wouldja look at this inept shit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it largely did work, out of thousands of tries a few successes. machine has space for many thousands.
mircea_popescu: "some notion" carries no water ; definitely early navigation was bereft of either understanding motion or destination.
mircea_popescu: this is a tenuous view, historically.
mircea_popescu: "Dead reckoning dun work without gps". see, this is why cyc fails. this mindset.
mircea_popescu: deltas, not absolute values.
mircea_popescu: the machine played dead reckoning not some sort of absolute evaluation of the eternal positions
mircea_popescu: even chess is dubious. go - forget it.
mircea_popescu: nobody can look at a go set and give you a position value. nobody.
mircea_popescu: sedol lost to a machine that doesn't even know what beans are.
mircea_popescu: sedol lost.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's easier for me, i wrote it all anyway!
mircea_popescu: anyway. some sort of pcfg.
mircea_popescu: that's what electronics ARE FOR.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform english-russian
mircea_popescu: phf and the third is that it absolutely should not make any concession to the finite nature of the universe. three billion trillion parameters ? OK!
mircea_popescu: if you've noticed, all valuable engineering comes out of filth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite so. it's palpably an elephant cemetery. won't do anything ever, because it's done by an ocd clean person.
mircea_popescu: now 2 and 3 are iffy, for instance english-chemistry vs english-genre-fiction and english-trilema may be a more practical split than english vs french.
mircea_popescu: the other is, that it should keep context of "this text" ; separately context of "everything i ever saw in this language" and yet separately "everything i ever saw".
mircea_popescu: phf there's two (or perhaps three) aspects here. one is, that it should first pass through the entire item (book or w/e), to adjust itself, and then go once more through it, on the basis of that, and then again. similar to how "page rank" works, once the result is stable it thinks it's done.
mircea_popescu: ftr, i wouldn't take cyc for anything other than a fine guide of what not to do.
mircea_popescu: use the fact that the machine as is, runnign whatever crap it runs, can still do millions of cycles a second, and can store billions and trillions of bytes.
mircea_popescu: this is what's contemplated here exactly.
mircea_popescu: anyway - this is a correct wiki. a proper notation engine backed by a self-training, probabilistic model of language.
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sedol lost.
mircea_popescu: that we don't have this in a box is simply because nobody wants to do any work.
mircea_popescu: THIS is what competent (not great. competent, patient, insistent) programmers + 20nm process means. that we can have this in a box.
mircea_popescu: will correct your formulas.
mircea_popescu: properly made model can learn rules of chemistry from reading chemistry books,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all elements recur ; all elements are made of parts which recur.
mircea_popescu: i was stuck publishing a pdf in my latest article because fuck me there's no sane ocr ;/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform equations, chemical formulas, everything you can note down.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. "all text it's ever seen"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 1 error per 500 pages or less. how's that.
mircea_popescu: there doesn't exist currently any ocr package that uses a proper statistical model, and is self-trained on the text, and on all text.