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mircea_popescu: i don't care what comes out of it. just as long as the process is correct, come what may will be fine.
mircea_popescu: i get it, you've lived a life dealing with people who want a certain thing to come out of babbage's machine. fine.
mircea_popescu: i'm not about to import usg.retardation for any reason.
mircea_popescu: so no, you fake your absolutes. flush blender corpse all you want ; maybe something can be proven later. but there's no guarantee.
mircea_popescu: "all things were preordained by god - ergo bbet logged".
mircea_popescu: heck, bitbet didn't keep logs. confiscate all you want. was it a timely enough confiscation ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: actually, i don't think our scheme necessarily allows to know WHICH it was even if you confiscate them all.
mircea_popescu: please make whole sentences. include the verbs, and the nouns, and so on.
mircea_popescu: you've not defined "involuntary participation" in such a way as to put it in this soup and prove anything.
mircea_popescu: for it to be a point it'd have to be constructed out of things that may exist in the same sentence, which it isn't.
mircea_popescu: if it's right it's right and if it's wrong it's wrong. a statistical argument may not decide this. it'll be just as wrong with 3 billion and just as right with 0.
mircea_popescu: stop mixing shit against entropy flow. you don't give the first of a flying fuck about the number 3. you're wrtiting code, it may not contain magic numbers.
mircea_popescu: and you know this through massaging your prostate until a number squirts out ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, that's the convenient excuse. it is forced by the fact that "botmaster" === "pimply idiot with no social insertion".
mircea_popescu: the failure of single men to matter is not to be construed as saying anything about the abilities and capacities of hordes with herds in tow.
mircea_popescu: your notion of "actually solve the problem" oft shipwrecks on metaphysical shores.
mircea_popescu: the botnets are a lot closer to the result, in practice, than usg ever got.
mircea_popescu: but the concept of "a method which does not allow mapping of physical resources to logical resources by third party" DOES work.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the fact that the purportedly observed behaviour, EVEN IF FAKED, still violates no physics laws is now out of the bag.
mircea_popescu: has exactly no bearing on the fact that the capacitive display actually works, conceptually.
mircea_popescu: the fact that the ipad as such doesn't exist and never worked
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, people still line up to buy it, and go crazy about it, and on and on. EVEN THOUGH nobody actually got to take one home,
mircea_popescu: now, the tor would be "ipad", except a peculiar sort that does not in fact work.
mircea_popescu: let's try a comparison, to clear this up. so : capacitive display, as seen in ipad, is inherently cool. the capacitive display would be the "can't phyisically identify box running server".
mircea_popescu: EVEN in the "look but don't touch" version displayed. ye ken ?
mircea_popescu: tor never worked, but THE "we don't know which physical object maps to the logical object called <this server>" BIT did!
mircea_popescu: now, time to make a day of it, and the bait a full wedding meal.
mircea_popescu: point remains : the "we don't know which physical object maps to the logical object called <this server>" bit worked, even in the "look but don't touch" version displayed by tor. in fact - it was the bait in that trap.
mircea_popescu: "i fuck my wife every morn and every evening, she's not yet run out of cunt". what if she had ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform understand the problem with the pretense : sword cuts both ways, before you know it, i'm using it to cut their heads.
mircea_popescu: contrary to what democratic idiots like to think, and keep affirming, the beoble has exactly no impact on history.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, most modern "law enforcement" by mass is "this computer points at you mr alf". which is rank nonsense, and must go away.
mircea_popescu: you can't convict without body BECAUSE the "this hammer points at you, mr alf" is a sham ; and known as such, and for a long time.
mircea_popescu: there isn't much in common between computer and hammer.
mircea_popescu: to an alarming degree, which passes for "normal" in the mind of derps like rms, because it's common and he's confused, computing IS ALREADY TIVOIZED
mircea_popescu: there's no "you need some derps across town to add your own 2+2" ; but instead "from the fact that you added 2+2 eve can't discern where the fuck you did it"
mircea_popescu: it is in fact the exact opposite thereof. anthropology attests to this point.
mircea_popescu: that i have the option to fuck any woman in town does in no conceivable way reduce to me being married to every woman that ever lived.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> cpu is cheaper to reproduce than steel fork it is really only a photograph. <mircea_popescu> eh. this is not a discussion of metaphysics.
mircea_popescu: which is why louis tried to convince the idiots they can only TRULY eat at versailles.
mircea_popescu: in any case, the fork example is miserable. fork is commodity item and thus cloudized already. if obama steals your fork you go to chinese shitshop across street buy replacement.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider the implications of what you are arguing. if your idea of "irreplaceable home box" stands, this necessarily reduces to fortresses, armies and dirigibles. a world which happens to exclude a lot of people
☟︎ mircea_popescu: here, i don't know this to be the case, moreover i suspect otherwise.
mircea_popescu: i am in general more than happy to go into "don't interrupt - mistake" mode, whenever i know this to be the case.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it remains possible, yes. review your objection re "spamming reddit", which is exactly the same principle at work in a smaller snowglobe. their swarm of pinoy breed there, right ? pasture.
mircea_popescu: that's one level. and it informs the practical definition of uci, an implementation thereof, as you quote it.
mircea_popescu: from these it necessarily follows that tmsr must make a correct commodization interface for computing resources.
mircea_popescu: practically, bitcoin has shown, and before that theoretical considerations have indicated and predicted, at various levels of abstraction, that computing will commodify. moreover, the adversary itself is creating an eth to this particular bitcoin - they call it "the cloud".
mircea_popescu: so, strategically, we (as in, humans, people, we) are confronted with an adversary (ie, socialist state, usg, aliens, the devil incarnate, pure evil, etc) that predicates its relevancy upon targeted computing denial (see
http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/ ; and also
http://trilema.com/2015/mika-epstein-aka-ipstenu-is-a-thoroughly-clueless-poser/ re the ddos "we won't fix" and so on )
☟︎ mircea_popescu: yeah, you're mixing teh levels. lemme rant for a while.
mircea_popescu: that's a different (and much lower) level of the discussion. was that your target ?
mircea_popescu: there's no point in the sense of "this is what we're trying to accomplish". there's a few drivers ; and logically some likely outcomes. should i enumerate ?