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smickles: that's a bout a 95% loss, and you haven't paid that much in dividends
mircea_popescu: i don't see how glbse shares are worth anything in principle
mircea_popescu: i don't think i'd have accepted it.
mircea_popescu: no dude, on nasdaq. you know... you don't HAVE to make sense.
mircea_popescu: "There are ways to change the way hashes are made to break an ASIC. ASIC is hard wired. It can't change at all. FPGA can be reprogrammed with a new bitstream. GPUs are the same. A very minor change could make a lot of expensive paperweights and would be a great way to keep bitcoin operating the way it was meant, openly accessible to virtually anyone with everyday hardware, not a bunch of elites with fancy expensive hardware. It's s
mircea_popescu: thing is, "asic" doesn't name ONE thing like gpu does.
BTC-Mining: solution? Buy ASIC, we don't have a better technology yet
mircea_popescu: I don't even want them to ship, they're gonna ruin Bitcoins. I spent ~2000$ on quad 7970's, only the cards, and they're planning to release a "coffee warmer" 3ghs+ ASIC that does more than my cards for 150$? Eff that, difficulty will skyrocket and put a strain on video card miners.
mircea_popescu: Hi guys, I basically had a prophetic dream vision last night, that the BFL Labs ASIC won't be shipped until February 2013 at best.
mircea_popescu: i can't find a reference
BTCHero: Did i read somewhere that bfl announced they wouldn't ship asic until january now?
BTCHero: you can't clap with one hand?
usagi: That wouldn't make sense.
usagi: Doesn't matter really, I bought back almosy 2000 shares of yarr with my own money
mircea_popescu: isn't being an investor great ? :D
EmanuelDeOrtego: and I don't want to be sitting on Satoshi Dice when that happens
EmanuelDeOrtego: I just don't believe in it quite yet.
mircea_popescu: weren't you trying to get some fund going PsychoticBoy ?
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JWU_42: had posted in #gpumax and wasn't sure what was going on
mircea_popescu: i don't see why it still would run, no more coins to launder.
smickles: i didn't expect that
mod6: don't get graped in the mouth by pirate
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli why won't you have hope.
rdponticelli: A lot of people doesn't have a clue...
mircea_popescu: you don't have enough css in you to be better than me
mircea_popescu: copumpkin i don't fuck men.
mircea_popescu: omg don't go around imposing your sterility on others!! pinko
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: they're precise to whatever depth you ask about, which is as much as you can ever hope for, since we don't deal in infinities
mircea_popescu: im sorry, i don't see the problem. let there be zeroes.
copumpkin: although I guess you wouldn't want them to be holding companies
EmanuelDeOrtego: The stock doesn't go into weak hands who will throw it away easily
mircea_popescu: ya, they don't know how to run that exchange.
EmanuelDeOrtego: You also don't have to use long ass decimals from the start
mircea_popescu: <copumpkin> it really isn't that hard to imagine buying half a share << what's hard to imagine is the benefit of doing so.
copumpkin: it really isn't that hard to imagine buying half a share
copumpkin: I wouldn't say that
copumpkin: we don't have share certificates
copumpkin: I honestly don't see why we need whole numbers of shares
rdponticelli: I just don't agree
mircea_popescu: people aren't doing too much 1 share trading anyway
mircea_popescu: ya the new ones can't be 2 letter
usagi: I don't want to compete with you
mircea_popescu: this chan wasn't this lively in months.
usagi: it doesn't show, because it is a good background :p
mircea_popescu: yours isn't.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't show.
mircea_popescu: sigh. i am getting sick of discussing security with people who don't actually know wtf security is.
JWU_42: not this channel isn't #glbse or #mpex ;)
nefario: no it doesn't
usagi: If MPEX went down you couldn't do that
nefario: mircea_popescu: unless your exchange publishes the balance for a user or gives them a signed balance every time a trade happens they can't piece together anything
usagi: You are saying on one hand that mpex could provide information but on the other hand glbse could not. it just doesn't make sense.
usagi: But I don't see the point of having to manually sign orders with gpg. That's backend stuff.
mircea_popescu: usagi if you don't have gpg you're missing out.
mircea_popescu: they can't sign with gpg seeing how they don't have the bloody keys.
mircea_popescu: usagi srsly. if you don't understand gpg and what it does / why it;'s imp[ortant you're not yet qualified to be a party to this discussion.
usagi: You can't say that.
usagi: I asked where I could make more money listing; I didn't even imply that one server was better. But all I hear from you, mircea, is subterfuge.
mircea_popescu: usagi don't weasel out of it. you can't say "o, someone who;'s been at it forever is vulnerable becasue a buncha forum handles that exist since last week say so"
usagi: You can't talk about other companies internal procedures like you know, because you don't/
usagi: No it isn't true mircea. That's the problem/.
usagi: I don't know.
Luceo: I do like the higher level of security, I just don't see the point in making big holdings there when they're near-impossible to move
usagi: Same with satoshidice, now I don't just have to worry about 1 person I need to worry about 3.
usagi: If you list on mpex and don't get a passthry to glbse
Luceo: mpex needs an interface which is user-friendly, and imo should have a free-tier account that can't issue assets
usagi: I care to the point that I don't :p
Luceo: Registration wouldn't be worth it imo
usagi: he can't say that.
Luceo: MPEX doesn't have any wallet running, that is a plus security-wise
usagi: Some of what Mircea said isn't logical, and is biased.
nefario: but we can't protect people against themselves
Luceo: Also, for some reason your Google authentication doesn't work with Blackberry, I always get told my token is invalid. :/
nefario: of don't be so full of shit
mircea_popescu: you don't know the future in this respect, i'm affraid.
mircea_popescu: you couldn't ?
nefario: I couldn't
mircea_popescu: i don't care what you say. answer the fucken question already
nefario: you don't need a licence
rdponticelli: [09:57:10] <mircea_popescu> so sort of like a fiat broker ? why aren't you on mpex lol. << Yea, I help funnelling Argentine fiat Into btc. I thought about doing it in mpex and I even asked you if there was a fee back then... but people here would never wrap their heads around how mpex works....
mircea_popescu: weren't you teaching or w/e ?
mircea_popescu: weren't you saying you work there at some point ?
mircea_popescu: you can't win a words argument with me. you will have to build a better product.
mircea_popescu: and i expect serious answers because this "o it's shit" doesn't work.
nefario: didn't mention that
mircea_popescu: i don't see your answer to the security discussion yet.
mircea_popescu: so sort of like a fiat broker ? why aren't you on mpex lol.
rdponticelli: It won't be sustainable...
nefario: no it doesn't
rdponticelli: It doesn't matters if he is the issuer
mircea_popescu: it's just that i don't care about them, so.
Luceo: coingenuity: Didn't I? :o
mircea_popescu: ya. people don't understand this buyt suppose i have 100 btc to invest
Gladamas: Chaaang-Noi: I'm sorry, I didn't mean it as an attack
boonies4u: I wouldn't be surprised if Pirate bought some debt from passthroughs under the table
BTCHero: mircea_popescu: I was going to comment on that thread with questions and didn't want to muddy the thread
mircea_popescu: omg phpbb doesn;t fuck up gpg code
jcpham0: I don't consider it to a contract i agreed upon