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pete_dushenski: it's a testament to their branding efforts that sony electronics make me think only of recent james bond movies
ascii_field: (sony was a frequent offender)
ascii_field: ever smell a new high-end laptop ?
mircea_popescu: (yes there's a deep reason for the schism, no it has nothing to do with politics. the western church mostly provided laas, the eastern church baas.) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: kinda what the eleusine mysteries for instance tried to provide as a public good.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 20:05:19; mircea_popescu: completely validated in the majesty of Being. The hero transcends life with its peculiar blind spot and for a moment rises to a glimpse of the source. He beholds the face of the father, understands—and the two are atoned."
mircea_popescu: i am kinda expecting to see "behavioural doping" or somesuch. if industrial pollutant is so cheap/abundant it actually creates an ecological problem, it is obviously only a matter of time before the large amts of discrete data (google db, cctv db, etc) are meshed together with substance dictionary to create optimized diets for advertising.
phf: conversation keeps arriving to the same point that the solution to local maximum is death. tlp makes those conclusions in "how to not be a narcissist", but then fails to see how it applies to himself with his own mengel situation. or to quote orr from catch-22 "How can he see he's got flies in his eyes if he's got flies in his eyes?"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Aha. You assume this is a medical system and not a medium of social control.
BingoBoingo: So what if the kids end up fucked in adulthood by a couple months or years of neuroleptic induced hyper-prolactinemia, telling the parents they suck would make the doctor the "uncaring monster" to the rest of the system
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but this isn't what this is. this is a doctor claiming he's being a contemporary rendition of fucking mengele because "the jews and the dogs expected it" << "Standard of care"
ascii_field: a great many folks in this jail have literally no choice but to eat 'big mac' or die.
ascii_field: becoming mengele's assistant, or tlp, or me - is a product of a long series of 'bad life choices'
mircea_popescu: fine, be a woman over there then.
mircea_popescu: the sort that go "oh wait, i was just ... being a woman"
mircea_popescu: for a good few years.
mircea_popescu: there is no "resistance through culture", you don't get to tell me "hey i knew all along X was a scam, i just promoted it ironically"
ascii_field: in fact i'm pretty certain that it is happening as we speak a floor or so below where i sit
mircea_popescu: but this isn't what this is. this is a doctor claiming he's being a contemporary rendition of fucking mengele because "the jews and the dogs expected it"
ascii_field: say a fella at butugychag stuffs his boot full of ammonal and blows off his toes, to avoid work detail in the quarry
mircea_popescu: "When a kid is presented to a psychiatrist, the psychiatrist is pressured, obligated, to do something pharmacological. If a psychiatrist looked a single parent a joint away from a nap right in the eye and said, "nope, he's acting out because of X, Y, Z, and medications aren't going to fix this" that doctor will get his head handed to him by parent or by lawyer. Justice will be done, you negligent elitist."
mircea_popescu: The cause of these high levels of medications is so simple you'll recoil from the truth of it, but pour yourself a drink and take it like a man: the kids showed up. That's it. The kid is in front of you and you have to do something, now, that results in an acute change. Not better grades 4 years out, or less sadness over the teen years; change the sleep tonight, make the kid less hyper now, and when it "stops working
mircea_popescu: "Variables associated with antipsychotic use [included] male gender, age 12 years and under, being nonwhite, and a length of stay 13 days or longer."
mircea_popescu: "10 year study of inpatient kids: 44% got antipsychotics. Is that a lot? Yes. It's a lot."
thestringpuller: you're on a roll now!
mircea_popescu: cameron makes a great girl name.
mircea_popescu: did the cameron one get a sex change ? or is that the wachowski
mircea_popescu: or wait. is this also a she ?
mircea_popescu tries to recall what a Blythe Masters is
mircea_popescu: the angle here is that 6 months is a waste of time/resources in the present configuration to go chase that thing. pure scheduling matter, yes, it's valuable, no we can't fill the larder with brontosaurus.
mircea_popescu: the NEXT box has a price. would napoleon have paid that for his box ? never.
mircea_popescu: and now with exaples : aluminum is a theoretical metal.
mircea_popescu: whereas nobody can exclude another from possession of a theoretical item.
mircea_popescu: the equivalent approach is to say item acquired a new property in going from a to b. in both it's the same thing, but in b it is also an exclusive good
mircea_popescu: and so therefore, going from a to b actually increases the market value of item. through a process known as "creating a market". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in situation a, the value of item is to be calculated theoretically ; in situation b, the value of the item is "a little less than it costs me to get one myself". and it is VERY practical. because yes, you MUST keep up with the Xs.
mircea_popescu: situation a) item is shown theoretically to possibly exist ; situation b) item is alleged to physically exist in vaults of lord X.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field outsiders are utterly a red herring. there exist no outsiders. reddit might as well not exist and everyone else reads the logs.
ascii_field: i'm not sure there ~is~ a difference re: e.g., an 0day
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between getting to see the koh i noor and knowing lord x owns it. or, to quote popfictionikia, "Another consideration was education. Before the late 1950s and the advent of the stately home business, very few working-class people had seen the upstairs of these great houses; those that had were there only to clean and serve, with an obligation to keep their eyes down, rather than uplift them and be
mircea_popescu: one of the major wins of /me style b-a governance is that it actually nulls THAT ENTIRE silence cost bs. it's in the logs.
ascii_field: jurov: one of the things to understand is that a, e.g., 100k r.e. job is really a transaction in ~silence~ far more so than in the deliverable as conceived of in this hypothetical.
mircea_popescu: all you need is a point.
jurov: i understand there must be a pool of scientists, as staff or in wot that must be reassigned to this
ascii_field: in case n00bz are reading this: nobody pays 100 tonnes for a reversing gig to some unknown for the same reason all 'assassination markets' are usg hoaxes
ascii_field: or didja have a gurl do it, or what.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the important thing here being that it is not even expensive. it's free. for me. which is a large part of the problem - medieval knights didn't get paid in cash nor did they pay cash for the fees.
mircea_popescu: oh i see. in a world of lizzards and wizzards, what's a girl to do!
mircea_popescu: all the derps that this'd be interesting to are essentially on the same side of the same market : wanna make money (sex) out of their "skillz" (having a cunt) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: wh ythe fuck would they ?! they need to see another cunt like you need a hair in your yoghurt
ascii_field: it is a discussion of a very unlikely thing. i can't picture why anybody would order this.
mircea_popescu: obviously this is a discussion at the wrong end of "everything costs more and takes longer" type of process.
ascii_field: could be that it is merely a placeholder.
ascii_field: jurov: we're talking about 6 mo. to a year of full time wizardry.
ascii_field: i'd put together a formal quote if i had the least reason to think anyone seriously were asking.
ascii_field: but it's a bit thick for 'after dinner hack.'
mircea_popescu: completely validated in the majesty of Being. The hero transcends life with its peculiar blind spot and for a moment rises to a glimpse of the source. He beholds the face of the father, understands—and the two are atoned." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ntered elsewhere (Spider Woman, Blessed Mother); and with that reliance for support, one endures the crisis—only to find, in the end, that the father and mother reflect each other, and are in essence the same. The problem of the hero going to meet the father is to open his soul beyond terror to such a degree that he will be ripe to understand how the sickening and insane tragedies of this vast and ruthless cosmos are
mircea_popescu: Campbell: "Atonement consists in no more than the abandonment of that self-generated double monster—the dragon thought to be God (superego) and the dragon thought to be Sin (repressed id). But this requires an abandonment of the attachment to ego itself, and that is what is difficult. One must have a faith that the father is merciful, and then a reliance on that mercy. Therewith, the center of belief is transferred o
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth << check it out, a wikipedia article that's not terrible.
mircea_popescu: doesn't seem we have a good idea of that, either.
ascii_field: and yes, this is a kindergarten summary, and yes, if somebody pays for it, i can go and teach 'theory of computation' where we do 'symbol', 'language', 'formal automaton', etc. as rigorously as we want
ascii_field: and what better example can there be of illustration of the concept of 'program' than a music box ?
ascii_field: what would a mircea_popescu-spec definition look like ?
ascii_field: what 'nominalism', it's a physical recipe to make the correct hammer fall
ascii_field: before any of this, it was a 'program' for an ibm selectric
ascii_field: (e.g., a vt100)
mircea_popescu: computers are a kind now ?
mircea_popescu: a "kind" ? what kind.
ascii_field: simply that is is a program for a certain kind of apparatus, where the instructions correspond to throwing glyphs on a display
mircea_popescu: did you count alphs ? do you have a definition of alephs ?
mircea_popescu: is this a hilbert hotel sort of faux larger ?
ascii_field: can describe 'text' as a program as well. simply with much larger valid phase space.
ascii_field: 'text' doesn't need to satisfy a compiler.
mircea_popescu: rng is imo least understood part of the box. a sort of equivalent of magnetism in physics.
ascii_field: for some reason some people find the idea a very tough nut
ascii_field: (re: how rng-ness is not a mathematical property of the bits, etc.)
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 13:57:12; asciilifeform: there is the basic truth, and there is, on top of it, a massive 'field' of exercises in self-delusion (e.g., 'whitening.')
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310766 << the problem is wider than just "what's a good rng" or even acceptable conceptually "As rng". such as, "why is one there ?" ☝︎
ascii_field: as it is, nobody gives a fuck about 'i have done this' and this is proper.
ascii_field: if i had a notable result, i might have posted it, no?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310760 << would be VERY useful to fuzz the shit out of it, and actually we'd be doing this if gpg weren't slated for removal. trivial to instrument, replace /urand with a counter and let it run and compare the output. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 13:48:58; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310644 << goes great with mircea_popescu's 'everyone thinks he's a baron now' thing
pete_dushenski: Garmin: are you a gps-bot ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field live it looks like nothing in "practical, engineering terms" of people who do not, for that very reason. what does a mechanism that will allow you to step on the moon look in practical terms, of chairs and stacking strategies ?
mircea_popescu: is it because i eat the tainted food of argentines, who are the sort of people who don't fly, and probably for a reason ?
mircea_popescu: there is a difference.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: unless your intel folks told you something i don't know about tlp - his life is a pisspot because he lives and works in usaschwitz being veterinarian to the cattle, rather than because he fails to properly grasp the mechanics of 16 y.o. gurlz...
mircea_popescu: omaigerd anyone who would invite a 16yo into life is a psychopath!!1. which really masks "omaygerd being 16 is so fucking scary!111" which he can't confront. because 15. but maybe next summer, after camp...
mircea_popescu: this "if only i won a war - then i'd be adult, which means with *women*, too" thing boys keep doing doth not work irl. yes, he's adult, he pays bills. he has all the weird of a 15yo girl in relation to the one year older "WHORES!!!! SLUTS!!!!" as in for instance http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/06/an_education.html
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/10/interview-with-david-francois-on-building-a-real-bitcoin-business/#comment-71571 << should would enable stupid? or let him reread the article a few times until he finds the link.
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 13:44:50; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310319 << how's this work? tlp is not a cocooned insect / teenage gurl, waiting to transform into some other type of creature, but - at least if his writing is any clue - a grown man with many-figured bills to pay.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310752 << the two can coexist. and he IS a coccooned girl in many aspects ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 13:42:07; asciilifeform: yes, man doing the job of a machine because he is cheaper than the requisite machine - like the barge-men of the volga, pulling the rope with their own muscle, were cheaper than mules - needs to be 'conscientious'
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 08:33:50; mircea_popescu: (which is code for, you publicly humiliate them. that's the worst that can happen to a wanna-be journo. and in 2015 there exists nothing other than wanna-be in that biz.)
mircea_popescu: o look, a log.
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ascii_field: pete_dushenski: being places in a position where you can no longer meet your WoT obligations differs from death how ?!
ascii_field: it is a pretty objective thing.