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mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-15#1945586 << the question keeps shifting, seeing how originally discussion was re coupla servers, not 28 fgs. in any case, the answer was then just
as what is now : nsa will take .9 btc
as it's owed in either cash or some other thing of equal value, for pizarro's convenience.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:05:36 asciilifeform: mod6: think about whether it may be good idea to try an' structure asciilifeform's , diana_coman's , other folx, rack efforts,
as a continuation of piz. ( rly oughta ask mp whether this makes sense , tho ) . otherwise can operate
as 'errymanforhimself'.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 13:04:29 asciilifeform: ( what practical impact from this ? for instance, finally canhaz entrance router that actually logs events. instead of running from readonly squashfs
as is usual. )
mod6:
As far
as the foundation is concerned... I was thinking, originally, that I would have the whole box (with drives) shipped back from .uy. Then could be re-racked somewhere. But now, with the possibility that there might be some new rack space available, maybe the foundation should just have the drives shipped back, to be used inside of the 2nd box, currently not in use.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:05:36 asciilifeform: mod6: think about whether it may be good idea to try an' structure asciilifeform's , diana_coman's , other folx, rack efforts,
as a continuation of piz. ( rly oughta ask mp whether this makes sense , tho ) . otherwise can operate
as 'errymanforhimself'.
mod6: Yeah, not sure if we care about the ML any more
as far
as a communication tool for development or what not. So getting the archives back up is a decent start.
mod6: Regarding the foundation's two boxen: One was in .uy, the other was supposed to go down there, but is still in the possession of ben_vulpes. I communicated with him last week regarding the box, he'll be sending it to me
as soon
as I get him the deets.
mod6: diana_coman: Yeah, thanks. BB made me a backup before the drives were pulled. I've placed all of the tbf website files back onto the original vps that used to host the site. So far, seems everything is working ok (
as far
as I can tell), other than the Mailing List.
diana_coman: ftp://logs.ossasepia.com/ - I've setup a ftp mirror for asciilifeform
as he currently has only the slow loper-os; he already uploaded the dulap tarball; it has anonymous read-only access for anyone interested/having trouble with loper-os.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell trinque Were you wanting a blog set up on the 'anyserver'
as well?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Other www's are getting ready to come up
as well. hanbot's and nicoleci's have been requested. Waiting for others to explicitly request theirs given this is 'anyserver' rather than 'UY1 that bingo sees, touches, and locks'
BingoBoingo: The apache version on anyserver from the 2.2 line which means mp-wp Deny, Allow statements in .htaccess will work
as opposed to needing 'Require' statements
as per UY1's apache 2.4
mp_en_viaje: if pigsties were called cities, pigs would be just
as "highly urbanized"
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in enduring argentina lulz : bitcoin trading now illegal in germany,
as per some derpy "state" "authority" of theirs.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, unrelatedly : for the folk awaiting trilema publication of divers reports,
as were implicitly due for q3 sometime early october : i had every intention of doing them, if not by the 5th day
as trad. absolute value at least sorta by 15th (
as scaled value, 3x the months, 3x5 days) or something. but then, whole pizaro debacle, adding to the fact that i'm traveling and that's never so fixed a schedule (for instance, i was orig supposed to be in m
mp_en_viaje: not necessarily right nao, but
as a design principle.
mp_en_viaje: grand problem with c-anything is that there's no php-like "lulz, three stiches and a dab, you'll be done in five hours). anythng, ANYTHING, even something
as simple
as "make the fucking int datatypes match across the code" turn into multi-week, 100+ hour projects.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 16:48:02 diana_coman: aha; I actually had the mysql precise thing in one of the backups but rather deeply burried so at the time of the test I went with this mirror; but
as I was saying, by default I rather tend to unplug the network cable when installing systems.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, any indiv binaries imo, esp discrete pieces which "so
as to save hours".
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 16:44:55 asciilifeform: diana_coman: in the single-stick item i'm baking atm, there is a dir where all the turnable-knob configs are in , and copied to the new disk
as part of install. so user can set'em up beforehand, rather than to work inside the chroot.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 16:43:57 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'd like to put
as much
as possible correct config in the tarball, rather than have user '1st fix a, then fix b, etc'
diana_coman: asciilifeform:
as far
as I recall though, choosing the gnat is just a matter of setting PATH, isn't it?
diana_coman: aha; I actually had the mysql precise thing in one of the backups but rather deeply burried so at the time of the test I went with this mirror; but
as I was saying, by default I rather tend to unplug the network cable when installing systems.
mp_en_viaje: no longer merely "do not use shitlangs, they rot the brain" but rather the much more refined "do not use shitlangs
as langs, they're not that, and don't swallow, either".
mp_en_viaje: specifically : the public statues are sufficiently elaborate, the public stellae high enough, in any case our notions and conceits sufficiently advanced to support (in my judgement) revisiting of the shitlangs, with clear deliniation
as to why and what and wherefore.
diana_coman: all those installation notes from past times came in extremely handy indeed; a few hurdles existed, quite
as expected with respect to finding again various precise versions of stuff so from now on I'll have to backup *that* too.
mp_en_viaje: even
as we speak the dumb cunts over at uruguay are "trying to resolve amiably" through the age old process of "we fuck shit up and you agree with us it's okay"
diana_coman: fwiw: eselect python list shows 3.5 in use and indeed a 2.7
as fallback.
BingoBoingo: At some point earlier I did name drop Doctors Tristan Narvaja and Eduardo Acevedo Maturana
as the authors of some good prose. The local civil code is the first guy's work. Local commercial code a collaboration, but mostly the second guy.
BingoBoingo: By contrast Based on the Monday sit down, if Oscar was empowered to act
as a telecom manager in the way his title suggests... Maybe the week could have played out differently. Then again if I had a magic clicker that reset time back five minutes every time I clacked it, I may have never made it past age 5 or 13 much less 30 due to juvenile min-max attempts. But hypotheticals are hypotheticals.
mp_en_viaje: maybe, i guess, something like "I'm happy you understand the significant financial liabilty your misbehaviour over the past week exposes you to. We may consider a significant compensation offer ; but in principle we'd much rather pursue the matter through the legal system, so
as to bring you
as close to never being able to perpetuate such in the future
as at all possible."
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 11:57:49 mp_en_viaje: "Inasmuch
as my key doesn't work and you seem dedicated to ignoring even the lowest level of service coinceivable, I'm guessing my contract ends through your egregious breach and ends up litigated
as fraud ?"
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile 34 KKKalifornia counties are going to lose power for up to 5 days in the name of safety.
As the driving rain continues outside.
mp_en_viaje: "Inasmuch
as my key doesn't work and you seem dedicated to ignoring even the lowest level of service coinceivable, I'm guessing my contract ends through your egregious breach and ends up litigated
as fraud ?"
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I'll run it,
as promised on all amd around, at the very least; will at least have *something* to say after that, I guess.
mp_en_viaje: and,
as a general point, living in environments this elaborate is expensive and dangerous.
mp_en_viaje:
as things stand right now, in point of fact
as diana_coman might well point out, the ~one argument available from strict minigame pov
as to why even get test server there was "save on the hassle of trying to reproduce env".
mp_en_viaje: "
as long
as you don't get this one magic packet in a stream, connection's dead".
mp_en_viaje: what you WILL NOT be provided with, however, come hell or high water, is actually reliable custom solutions. they'll only appear to be working for
as long
as it takes you to swallow the hook, and not any longer.
mp_en_viaje: because he has sexier things to do than what you need ; and, importantly, because this is WHY he wanted to be a "craftsman" in the first place, and why attempted to scam you into buying custom, rather than standard items : so
as to fuck you over by doing "sexier things", because in his broken mind the very thing that impels the "craftsman" misbehaviour also looks at your damage
as implicit justification -- in that you're hur
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman,
as far
as any practical concern goes, we owned pizarro just fine. ownership is not the problem ; but customization puts undue power in the hand of the "Craftsman", who will imediatelly turn around to fuck you over.
mp_en_viaje: so
as my current thinking goes, attemptingto run business on anything other or besides commodity hardware is ~= editing locally saved copies of websites. it works fine enough -- until you reload.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: tbh the way I see it is that commercial enterprise may rely on "custom-made" only to the extent that it owns that production line since otherwise sooner or later it's bound to find itself stranded
as far
as I can tell.
mp_en_viaje: 1. it seems to me that
as a matter of principle, and for all its supposed benefits touted by the so inclined, custom hardware is not a practicable course in business.
diana_coman: 3. for
as long
as CS esp is not yet *fully* excised out of the dev/test server, that might *also * need non-Cuntoo
spyked: I'm at least curious to determine what trackbacks it hasn't sent. or whether xmlrpc.php responded with some error message.
as it is, I don't know what's happening there
spyked: hm... I thought the trackback sender just picks the links (when pressing "update post") and sends 'em, but it might have some timer or something. I'm doing local trackbacks
as we speak and some trackbacks to my own posts arrive immediately, while some not
girlattorney: i'll first ask how much costs a dedi link per mbit,
as i suppose you are looking for at least 100 mbit, right?
girlattorney: i'll try to register him, is not very good with english. two negative points: hot
as fuck and logistic is quite complicated
diana_coman: girlattorney: to put it plainly, from my pov there is currently nothing wrong
as such with north brazil but nothing particularly right either; if you want to interface with some dc there, go ahead.
spyked: in related news, thetarpit.org will soon point to the same site
as wp.thetarpit.org ; I'll temporarily disable thetarpit's feedbot feed while sorting this out, so I avoid any potential spam while at it
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 11:50:25 mp_en_viaje:
as it turns out, no, just spyked sent a buncha trackbacks
billymg:
as in, gotta talk to 1000 to find the one human?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 20:43:42 lobbes: But this is faulty reasoning; e.g. mp_en_viaje sure
as fuck didn't like Argentina yet knew that place inside and out (which is how he even came to the conclusion that it sucked so hard in the first place)
lobbes: billymg: oya, I encounter that
as well, which is what leads to my hermit behavior I find ("meh, I don't even enjoy hanging with that guy; would rather just be alone"). But part of networking I suppose is just dealing with it and making the effort. Not like BingoBoingo had to be best buds with his bicycle guy contact, either
lobbes: But this is faulty reasoning; e.g. mp_en_viaje sure
as fuck didn't like Argentina yet knew that place inside and out (which is how he even came to the conclusion that it sucked so hard in the first place)
BingoBoingo: But during the conversation never said anything definitive
as to my future operations rather than my clients'operations, but did emphasize the difficulty of continuing
as is. This may have baited the keycard.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 08:29:13 mp_en_viaje: i can't even be arsed to distinguish whether it's the case that some weirdo is in fact SO weird
as to actually have an xray machine, microscopes etcetera but 0 boxes, or rather the case some fifteen yo is just talking along with the crowd, a sort of [][zelig], becoming overweight when talking to overweight people about their obexsity and growing a beard when hanging out with rabbis.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, after taking care of some other things Imma draft a "Let's get this liability of a contract off both of our books and cleanly and inexpensively
as possible" letter. Will not fire off without getting some reads here of the draft.
diana_coman: crowncloud_:
as mp_en_viaje says, in time you could bridge this over with custom software too but for the moment just a person to do the bridging (or 2-3 on shifts, whatever); you know what'd work
crowncloud_: na nothing against IRC really, its just that the panel handles it all for us, bills are auto-generated on the due date, support alerts go to all members so everyone on-shift is alerted of whatever issue etc so they can all provide you updates
as we get them from the datacenter side
crowncloud_: Yup -- just trying to see how to make it best possible, because I don't want to leave anyone hanging for support and at the same time, for billing
as well. I don't usually want staff to interact with customers
as it leads to a very "mixed" of experience
crowncloud_: let me see -- i mean, for support etc
as well, it would be very useful if via the client area, because we have different staff on rotating shifts, so someone or the other would be available to help you out rather than waiting for me to come online :P
mp_en_viaje:
as it turns out, no, just spyked sent a buncha trackbacks
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 08:29:13 mp_en_viaje: i can't even be arsed to distinguish whether it's the case that some weirdo is in fact SO weird
as to actually have an xray machine, microscopes etcetera but 0 boxes, or rather the case some fifteen yo is just talking along with the crowd, a sort of [][zelig], becoming overweight when talking to overweight people about their obexsity and growing a beard when hanging out with rabbis.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 08:29:13 mp_en_viaje: i can't even be arsed to distinguish whether it's the case that some weirdo is in fact SO weird
as to actually have an xray machine, microscopes etcetera but 0 boxes, or rather the case some fifteen yo is just talking along with the crowd, a sort of [][zelig], becoming overweight when talking to overweight people about their obexsity and growing a beard when hanging out with rabbis.
mp_en_viaje: in fairness, zee germans are a pleasure to be stuck in a stau with, such
as it is. literally 1k semis orderly to the side of the road so light traffic can make it through, these folk are fuckien dsciplined.
mp_en_viaje: in any case, it turns out radio links don't work so well throyugh major traffic jams .meanwhile satlinks don't work so great in thick cloud cover such
as can be had in autumnal fulda gap.
mp_en_viaje: well, it's easy enough to bounce back in, but yes, spessart forest kicks butt
as a forest, but not the greatest for signl
mp_en_viaje: well, it's easy enough to bounce back in, but yes, spessart forest kicks butt
as a forest, but not the greatest for signl
mp_en_viaje: perhaps because failing early is how he managed to get away from it and move back to the other lobe
as a child, or for any other reason.