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mircea_popescu: so im guessing, "great that i didn't buy obsi" ?
Bane_Capital: I wish sleep wasn't needed
mircea_popescu: you can't even spell consulate
Bane_Capital: GLBSE isn't going anywhere.
Diablo-D3: [08:34:17] <usagi> You said you didn't have a personal account then you mentioned you had a personal account
nefario: running GLBSE I can see that having no regulation doesn't work
nefario: doesn't prevent it
nefario: It wasn't ready for production
midnightmagic: nefario: Well, participating in it doesn't help much. You're the one with the power to lock and unlock accounts. :)
midnightmagic: nefario: Isn't.. that personal information?
[\\\]: because the api doesn't exist
midnightmagic: Huh? He said he would? I'm behind aren't I..
[\\\]: dub, it can't be that bad
[\\\]: I ain't getting in the middle of the tizzy of nef/d3
agath: I understood that. But it's not the point. You wanted to do a mining company, then why didn't you buy hardware for doing it instead of bonds? If you bought by that time, FPGAs would already have paid for theirselves..
OneMiner: agath they always were. It's a forgone conclusion. If bitcoin succeeds then there will be ASICs. The only way there won't be is if bitcoin flops, in that case we are all out our investments.
mircea_popescu: well, he didn't say the best theoretically possible outcome
agath: OneMiner: when I bought DMC, ASICs weren't in the air yet
agath: I don't care if they went bankrupt: I didn't invest in a FUND because I didn't want to.
agath: it was just an example, and I didn't insult you (YET).
OneMiner: It makes sense to me that when the funding that was required for plan A can't be raised you move on to plan B. I remember Diablo-D3 talking about buying bonds too. I'm sure he has been upfront about it.
agath: so even if nefario didn't freeze anything, you still don't have 1 BTC for every share sold.
agath: I bought 10 @ 1, you sold 45K+ and you don't have 45000 BTC, you have 1600...
nefario: I don't know the value
agath: Nefario doesn't own anything AFAIK..
agath: He didn't even got hardware for mining, he only traded other's bonds...
nefario: Diablo-D3: of course , you hadn't sold infinity number of shares for ever smaller amounts
agath: I don't see million dollars .. after first sales your shares always went DOWN...
OneMiner: To be fair Diablo couldn't have made a DC with the funs he got from the IPO. He said he was going to make a DC and mine. He ended up mining. Seems truthful to me.
agath: I don't see how he could set it up with 1600 BTC
nefario: DMC isn't frozen
mircea_popescu: well, the approach is problematic, but i don't see you could have continued in your position
OneMiner: What I don't get is how everybody knows who is competent or not? Maybe it was ham fisted or maybe it was a super slick move.
copumpkin: I shouldn't have to read the thread on the forum if I'm trying to use your site to raise capital :)
nefario: because he didn't ask
nefario: but I don't see why it should
copumpkin: nefario: so you can't show people their shareholders because you'd need to change the TOS, but you can do this?
nefario: GLBSE isn't just an exchange
nefario: dub: can't be helped
nefario: I won't be unlocking the account until after the shareholder vote
OneMiner: Well, snap. In the event of a default there wouldn't be mining hardware to sell. Yikes. I'll ask for pics if I decide to invest in one of these. :P
nefario: from what I've learned you weren't doing anything except devaluing DMC
dub: I still don't know wha happen with DMC
jamie-lang: This doesn't make much sense
copumpkin: Diablo-D3: I wouldn't take it too personally. It's a raging lynchmob on there
copumpkin: I mean, dividend decisions aren't usually up for shareholder vote
rg: i didn't 'want' to
copumpkin: omg I know why Chaang-Noi doesn't like me anymore
copumpkin: if you just keep repeating that I'm a bad person, I can't really argue with that :P
copumpkin: alright, if you don't have any actual criticism I'm not going to bother trying to fix it :P
jcpham: "Science doesn't prove something...it disproves something."
copumpkin: Chaang-Noi: is it that I didn't want to join in on your witch-hunt of pirate?
jcpham: sorry copumpkin I idn't read any bitch text
mircea_popescu: he won't even bother to hit tab for you anymore.
copumpkin: it doesn't seem that hard for everyone to be cordial and respectful :P
copumpkin: can't we keep the shit-talking down?
mircea_popescu: thus i don't care.
Bugpowder: There is a concept of a 'accredited investor' in financial markets. You need $1MM assets or $200k income. Think of MPEx as only for 'accredited investors' If you cant afford 20BTC for a seat at the exchange, probably you shouldn't be investing.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi doesn't it strike you as odd that i jsut cut interest on deposits if im trying to run with teh btc ? hm ?
FabianB_: don't know enough about it yet.. learning..
FabianB_: i don't trade on either coz i don't trust glbse enough and wouldn't have enough volume to make the mpex fees worth it
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> a this rate we dont print coins fast enough to replace em with the lost ones in scams << except they ain't lost-lost.
jcpham: "We don't measure our success by financial results."
mircea_popescu: so the wind doesn't blow you away, skinny.
OneMiner: Nonono. They don't arrest. They gather. Data centers are going up. Profiling people is inexpensive. So, now everybody can have a file on them with the feds! :D
jcpham: i wouldn't let my wife find out about my gf
copumpkin: jcpham: don't leave :(
copumpkin: jcpham: I didn't mean trading
copumpkin: jcpham: you had another nick at some point, too, didn't you?
jcpham: pro/anti don't necessarily fit anymore
Azelphur: <bitlane> I DID A WITHDRAW AND I DIDN'T GET IT INSTANTLY ITS A SCAM </bitlane>
reeses: guinness isn't liquor
reeses: copumpkin: since you can't declare ownership to the authorities
reeses: copumpkin: so you basically can't list a corporation on glbse
nefario: Diablo-D3 hasn't asked me
copumpkin: wait, glbse doesn't have a facility to tell you who your shareholders are?
nefario: I don't have any record of that
pigeons: please don't list them all, no flooding
Bane_Capital: This isn't Marxist economics.
nefario: I don't get it
nefario: Diablo-D3: you've been running down DMC since you started so I don't know what you can really say
nefario: I don't believe in the concept of obscene profits
nefario: if people don't
Bugpowder: which makes me wonder... Why would he need to do that? Shouldn't he have the S.DICE shares to cover the GSDPT shares?
Bane_Capital: If GIGAMINING goes bust, I don't even...
mircea_popescu: 35:1 or so implied odds pirate doesn't pay. yeah, i'd say it's more like 1000:1 by now.
Bugpowder: interactive brokers doesn't scam
Bugpowder: couldn't raise my ask in time
mircea_popescu: dudes, stfu for a moment, assbot would like to talk and can't get a word in edgewise.
Bane_Capital: Diablo-D3: At least you aren't like Blitzboom and move crap you don't like to off-topic blatantly
Bane_Capital: I don't even.
Lyspooner: "once the option is exercised you get back wtf wasn't owed to the buyer"
mircea_popescu: once the option is exercised you get back w/e wasn't owed to the buyer.
mircea_popescu: people haven't turned into any beasts.
DeaDTerra: Now that people chose to ignore that and threaten me instead, when I don't even have the money they want. Is just a side effect that I didn't plan
DeaDTerra: Not GBF is going fine, it can't go bankrupt.
Lyspooner: don't get mad at the community, get mad at the dude who said he was going to force you to pay
DeaDTerra: I don't get to do anything to someone if they come to my house xD
DeaDTerra: A bit pissed at the community atm :8 got a angry email yesterday saying he/she would start calling my family, and if I didn't pay him/her, the he/she would drive to my home and force me to pay... The scare thing is he/she knows my addressa nd real name :(
Bane_Capital: and that's why most people can't handle his works.