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a111: Logged on 2018-01-01 21:18 trinque: BingoBoingo: will the ISP be providing machines to rent, or are all customers expected to ship their own?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-01#1762111 << it'll evidently need moar money to actually buy machines ; as uruguay is not specifically known as a center of iron production the machines will have to be shipped in anyway. so practically speaking, customer that is lazy/unconnected can definitely have machine produced for him, but if one's atop the game shipping his own iron hurts nothing. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-31 17:28 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu loox almost like an earthling man in this one
mircea_popescu is very fucking happy to see other people can apparently secrete these wonders, i was starting to suspect http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-31#1761935 issues. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't get it, if you spent 2319 usd how can oooh i see, tangibles. so you had ~.51 worth of bitcoin is fiatola and ended with .2 worth of bitcoin in fiatola.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-01 20:26 ben_vulpes: well now i'm listening to the beatles because a raffi cover of octopus' garden came on and i'd rather listen to the beatles and totally not 'cause y'all are a bunch of judgemental terrorists
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-01#1762101 << beatles is too pop anyway!!! ☝︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/happy-mew-years/ << Trilema - Happy Mew Year's!
ben_vulpes: in other words meaning things news, california is aiming to allow its subjects to voluntarily donate to a state charity and have that count as a credit towards the tax bill in order to preserve its deductibility at the federal level ☟︎
BingoBoingo: The voice in my head suggesting "Muy tranquilo could be code for lazy, and they get away with it by pointing across the river to Argentina" has started to get more weight this week.
BingoBoingo: Of course it's possible the local department of approving papers has been stoned since the expocannabis and fucked off all of december for holidays
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Hence the prayers
BingoBoingo: trinque: Their standard contract specifies wires to Itau bank
diana_coman: honestly, it all sounds to me so deja-vu in the style of "soon" meaning anything at all but usually a loong time (possibly unless oiled) and forms to fill similar "hoops for no-connections person"
trinque: can't grab one of those international amex accounts and pay the dc with that?
diana_coman: question is what leverage the press really has
BingoBoingo: The accountant is getting pressed this week over what exactly they have been paid for.
BingoBoingo: Then the bank account matter is something they've brought me in several times to fill out forms for.
BingoBoingo: I found an accountant. They are insisting the government should have the paperwork approved soon, but they haven't been too forthcoming on details.
diana_coman: I thought you had found the needed local person for it after some fumbling or did I get that part wrong? ☟︎
diana_coman: so the bank account? or creating a business? and why/what exactly in more detail?
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: The current bottleneck is getting set up as a business with a bank account.
diana_coman: what is the current bottleneck anyway? I can't seem to find it in clear in there or previous posts, am I missing something?
BingoBoingo: Well, it depends on where the prayers are going
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty fxd
diana_coman: and if it gets to praying stage.... ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Rates can be expected to decrease if network connectivity gets cheaper, or if two racks or filled they could start to go down on the volume of things.
trinque: sure, just trying to get you to answer the questions that people will have before wanting to sign on the line. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: trinque: With the debt owed to mircea_popescu by the venture, I lack the arrogance to propose any sort of share arrangement at this time.
trinque: or conversely, are rates expected to decrease as bootstrapping costs are recovered?
BingoBoingo: And the expectation at the moment is either customers ship, purchase, or otherwise negtiate a machine. At this stage I am weary on the renting, because I don't know what an acceptable machine to rent out is given the proclivity of the lords.
trinque: BingoBoingo: if the "rest of the expenses" includes all business bootstrapping costs, are we getting shares?
BingoBoingo: trinque: The estimated rates here are still the estimates http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/11/16/tbi-mid-november-update/
a111: Logged on 2018-01-01 20:07 ben_vulpes: pretty good, listening to raffi, working through ffa_ch4, tidying up some stuff for $work
trinque: and where are your rate estimates at the moment?
trinque: BingoBoingo: will the ISP be providing machines to rent, or are all customers expected to ship their own? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Whether local fiat banking is acquired here or not, January 8th discussions will start with the datacenter on finalizing a package, signing contracts, and getting them paid and machines turned on.
BingoBoingo: December 2017 statement published, pls check for compliance to the standards at http://trilema.com/2013/accounting-for-the-nonzero-asset-corporation-the-mpex-standard/
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/01/01/the-boingo-isp-december-2017-monthly-statement/ << Bingo Blog - The Boingo ISP December 2017 Monthly Statement
ben_vulpes: shinohai: thats miles beyond my meagre sausage-wiggling skills
shinohai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ffHO2vsUBY << im trying to learn some damage plan
shinohai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ffHO2vsUBY << im trying to learn some damage plan
ben_vulpes: well now i'm listening to the beatles because a raffi cover of octopus' garden came on and i'd rather listen to the beatles and totally not 'cause y'all are a bunch of judgemental terrorists ☟︎
BingoBoingo: It's a contagious auditory infection, recommend against having it screened by one of the girls
mod6: don't listen to it.
ben_vulpes: lol totally. i've finally leveled up in guitar to the point where i can pick some simple songs like this out, so i'm getting some background auditory training in at the same time
mod6: that's pretty nice. the guy makes me want to stab pencils in my ears.
ben_vulpes: kidz toonz. "quack quack music please?"
mod6: :] not much! catchin up on BB's blog & trilema.
ben_vulpes: pretty good, listening to raffi, working through ffa_ch4, tidying up some stuff for $work ☟︎
mod6: how goes today?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/messy/ << Trilema - Messy
shinohai: "A battery-powered consumer FM radio is placed in a metallic can as a shield. The radio is placed in monaural mode, and the output taken across one of the earphones. An appropriate level for the sound card is slightly audible a foot or two away. " :)
BingoBoingo: One or two blogposts incoming while memories are fresh to get the speller calibrated and then December ISP statement
BingoBoingo: Ended up getting a mortar and shells arrangement for the hostel.
BingoBoingo: Feliz ano. Fuegos artificiales were more intense for the new year, but much briefer in duration.
mod6: Happy New Years to you all!
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation presents The State of Bitcoin Address: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-January/000285.html
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> in other holy shit : apparently omaha, nebraska cancelled ny fireworks because it snowed and the soviets "dun want anyone to get frostbite" << and in other kansas news, wichita saw a man killed on his doorstep 'cause someone prank called 911 claiming a murder/hostage thing at that address, and he came out with his hands up sub-optimally, apparently. http://archive.is/AszYN
danielpbarron: oh shit, after that it's a lot more questions, i'm just gonna do default on all of it
trinque: that looks useful for kernel dev. I don't think you'd need it.
danielpbarron: the default is N, should I do that?
trinque: defaults will probably work, but it's worth hitting ? on the ones you don't recognize; it'll give a description.
trinque: you can just answer y/n and you'll make it out the other end eventually
trinque: that is actually the kernel makefile asking you things.
ben_vulpes: first of the new year!
mircea_popescu: to quote the local oracle, "america's best days lie ahead"
mircea_popescu: in other holy shit : apparently omaha, nebraska cancelled ny fireworks because it snowed and the soviets "dun want anyone to get frostbite"
trinque: takes on the scale of hours to build first; after first build you have binary packages of what you built, can complete in minutes
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-31#1762014 << how long does emerge world take by this process then ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: police car parked in between the lanes, "hey, is that da polis ?" "shit, it is" "well... they're not chasing." "in truth i was only doing 100, the limit's 80. just 20 over... that's kinda stickler fare..." "you were also doing 130 earlier, in the 60 limit zone" "shit, i was ?"
mircea_popescu: in other news, new year's the best time to drive around here.
ben_vulpes: premysl: logs are in channel title
mod6: all the gentoos i've got are amd64 and default .config
danielpbarron: trinque's latest cuntoo thing
danielpbarron: just taking over the world, that's all
shinohai: k tal
danielpbarron: mostly asked because someone will probably wonder the same and now they have something to read in the log. i'll give it a look when it finishes
trinque: has not specifically asciilifeform's list, though I'm pretty sure mine encompasses it. if it lacks something, point it out and it'll get added.
trinque: see the masks and removed useflags in the build script
danielpbarron: so i wanna put eulora on this thing when it finishes. i'm curious does it already have asciilifeform's crapolade mask file or is that the kind of thing i have to put in manually?
trinque: if you want to poke around in the build after it's done (or breaks), it'll still be mounted for you to chroot in.
trinque: good deal. too bad I'm out of nog or I'd join in.
danielpbarron: for the lol record, i got this usb drive many years ago from the roger verified memorydealers site for what is now probably thousands of USD worth of bitcoin
trinque: hey your testing is greatly appreciated.
danielpbarron: aaaaand my sketchy chinese usb drive crashed the laptop when i unplugged ffffff
trinque: makes the dev loop on the thing easier, edit script, rebuild.
trinque: yep, it checks to see if build is already mounted, unmounts if so.
danielpbarron: ok this time it still says "build is not a mountpoint" but it seems to be doing something so far
danielpbarron: aw shit, i have to provide my own kernel config :<
danielpbarron: aha, the kconfig
trinque: hold your horses; I'm saying if you look at the top of the script you have, you can see that there are two parameters.
trinque: top of the script you're reading!
danielpbarron: top of what, i refreshed the blog post and i don't see a difference
trinque: I added a param for the kernel config to use, see top
danielpbarron: well that's not entirely true, what is that final $ thing in the parted line
danielpbarron: by that i mean it returned a blank line return
danielpbarron: i did try manually typing that parted line and it returned fine (i think)
trinque: look at the command it's creating and see if your parted supports it or not
trinque: the line in question is the one creating a new partition table with parted